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Apr 24, 2020 10:32:38   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Leefl wrote:
So now we have the leader of our country suggesting that people could inject themselves with disinfectant and stick UV lights in their bodies to treat COVID 19. Talk about anti science and medicine... The source of this nonsense is at the top. He is the only one pushing the anti-science and anti-medicine agenda. His toadies fall in line and struggle to support his nonsense because if they don't, they will be fired. It's all about politics. He's more intrested in getting himself re-elected than fighting this pandemic. He doesn't care who he hurts as long as it helps him.
So now we have the leader of our country suggestin... (show quote)


You absolutely lie on the injection thing.
There is no video showing it at all.
That is another hoax perpetrated by the DNC and the fake news and you cannot show any actual unedited video showing the president saying that.

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Apr 24, 2020 10:37:08   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
Darwin had the answer, "Survival of the fittest." That includes thoe woth the "fittest" minds who will do what is right and will save the most lves. Those who do not follow the best advice will not survive.

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Apr 24, 2020 10:40:33   #
MrMophoto Loc: Rhode Island "The biggest little"
 
I recently heard someone on TV make the following point and I thought it would be worth repeating here:
People in the medical industry know disease and they know how to prevent it etc.
People in the financial/political world know about the economy and how to keep it moving and growing
Each has their own perspective on the present crisis and what to do about it and where to go from here.
The way I see it, it's a real balancing act, between keeping everyone safe and healthy and keeping our economy healthy as well. You can't have everyone healthy by keeping the population sheltered in their houses and expect the economy to be healthy as well. However, if you start allowing everyone to roam freely you may not have enough people left to have a health economy. I said "may not", but who is willing to take that chance?

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Apr 24, 2020 10:41:47   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
@Dirty Harry: Don't take medical advice from a politician.

👍👍👍

Stan

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Apr 24, 2020 10:43:22   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
You absolutely lie on the injection thing.
There is no video showing it at all.
That is another hoax perpetrated by the DNC and the fake news and you cannot show any actual unedited video showing the president saying that.


"..."And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside..."

I saw and heard the president say this. Do you see the word "injection"?

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Apr 24, 2020 10:52:15   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
The only thing I posted was an agreement with Dirty Harry's sentiment...I said "Excellent" and Two thumbs up as I agree completely with his statement. I watch the news and all briefings from FOX News, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, BBC, and the local sources as well, and rotate through them as these things are being said and done....I see and hear what is said, live, so I agree with Dirty Harry's sentiment. Where do you folks get your news?

Why my little post in agreement with Dirty Harry is being singled out brings out question marks..... I watch and read all this stuff daily, "see it and hear it" live, from multiple sources, I also "fact check", my info comes from the RIGHT - the CENTER - and the LEFT of the news world, I do not know of any other way to be fair in my analysis of this horrible situation, and never take one source as "gospel". I made no other statement.

By the way, I'm a big fan of UV-C light, I use it often (as I have posted here many times).....but it is also capable of inflicting harm if not used correctly (do some research on it). I'm also a big fan of Social Distancing, and of wearing masks to protect you and me. Not a fan of medical and scientific advice from the layman, the uneducated, those who don't check or report their sources, nor those who try to convince through bullying.

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Apr 24, 2020 10:52:52   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
jayluber wrote:
He didn't say we should do that. He was asking the doctors about using light to kill the virus somehow and then later asked if there was some way we could use one of the antiseptics to kill the virus inside the body.

You really should stop spreading lies and believing every thing you hear from the fake media.

Here is what he said:

"Question that probably some of you are thinking of if you're totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light. And I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it," Trump said, looking over to Bryan.
"And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're gonna test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or, or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets on the lungs and it does a tremendous number, so it will be interesting to check that. So that you're going to have to use medical doctors. But it sounds, it sounds interesting to me. So we'll see.

"But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that's, that's pretty powerful."
He didn't say we should do that. He was asking th... (show quote)



His statement certainly implies that injection of a disinfectant could be a treatment option. Beyond that, his narrative certainly discloses someone who has difficulty grasping concepts beyond an elementary level. He has no business trying to speak AT ALL about the medical aspects of the corona virus and any treatment protocols being used or those under investigation. He just needs to just keep his mouth shut and stop commenting on what the medical and research community are doing because his understanding of what they are doing is so shallow.

Stan

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Apr 24, 2020 10:53:51   #
Toby
 
MrMophoto wrote:
I recently heard someone on TV make the following point and I thought it would be worth repeating here:
People in the medical industry know disease and they know how to prevent it etc.
People in the financial/political world know about the economy and how to keep it moving and growing
Each has their own perspective on the present crisis and what to do about it and where to go from here.
The way I see it, it's a real balancing act, between keeping everyone safe and healthy and keeping our economy healthy as well. You can't have everyone healthy by keeping the population sheltered in their houses and expect the economy to be healthy as well. However, if you start allowing everyone to roam freely you may not have enough people left to have a health economy. I said "may not", but who is willing to take that chance?
I recently heard someone on TV make the following ... (show quote)


How dare you try to inject some common unbiased sense into this blog. If they read this first what are they going to complain about the rest of the day?

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Apr 24, 2020 10:55:28   #
foodie65
 
berchman wrote:
"..."And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside..."

I saw and heard the president say this. Do you see the word "injection"?


You are never going to get the cult to believe the cult master says the things he says because FOX and he say he didn’t say it

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Apr 24, 2020 10:56:12   #
Leefl
 
berchman wrote:
"..."And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside..."

I saw and heard the president say this. Do you see the word "injection"?



He is just another Trump supporter unwilling to see what is in front of him. There is no persuading cult followers.

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Apr 24, 2020 11:15:05   #
Toby
 
jayluber wrote:
He didn't say we should do that. He was asking the doctors about using light to kill the virus somehow and then later asked if there was some way we could use one of the antiseptics to kill the virus inside the body.

You really should stop spreading lies and believing every thing you hear from the fake media.

Here is what he said:

"Question that probably some of you are thinking of if you're totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light. And I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it," Trump said, looking over to Bryan.
"And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're gonna test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or, or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets on the lungs and it does a tremendous number, so it will be interesting to check that. So that you're going to have to use medical doctors. But it sounds, it sounds interesting to me. So we'll see.

"But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that's, that's pretty powerful."
He didn't say we should do that. He was asking th... (show quote)


This is typical "Trump speak". He tells us how smart he is and suggests something should be tried or at least considered then softens it buy saying "I don't really know but it just could work", He has covered both positions . If he should hit on something he's a hero. If it doesn't work he also covered that base. Why won't he share his ideas privately with the medical people instead of the general public that might twist it or be dumb enough to actually try it?
Fake news? I get so tired of hearing that. If people would be a bit more analytical they would see that neither party or media source has a corner on fake news, or lying as some call it. Even Fox news occasionally tries to be impartial, on occasion. Most of the "Fake News" does not come from the news programs. It comes from talking heads that try to interpret the news for the puppets that are listening to them.

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Apr 24, 2020 11:16:27   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
Darwin had the answer, "Survival of the fittest." That includes thoe woth the "fittest" minds who will do what is right and will save the most lves. Those who do not follow the best advice will not survive.


In Idaho suicides are going to exceed virus deaths by the end of the month due to despair over losing work and income. This looks to be a growing trend across the nation.

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Apr 24, 2020 11:17:46   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Leefl wrote:
He is just another Trump supporter unwilling to see what is in front of him. There is no persuading cult followers.


So you think postulating and wondering is anti-science? And thinking outside the box has no place in your scientific method? Maybe your method is to start with a closed mind and work your way backward.

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Apr 24, 2020 11:18:07   #
MrMophoto Loc: Rhode Island "The biggest little"
 
Toby wrote:
How dare you try to inject some common unbiased sense into this blog. If they read this first what are they going to complain about the rest of the day?


Thanks

I'm a firm believer that there are only two things in this world that are unlimited,
one is creativity and the other is stupidity
I guess in this case they are one and the same.

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Apr 24, 2020 11:18:46   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Fotoartist wrote:
So you think postulating and wondering is anti-science? And thinking outside the box has no place in your scientific method? Maybe your method is to start with a closed mind and work your way backward.


Very good.

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