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Apr 23, 2020 14:02:20   #
rcarol
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Wow, I guess your thinking is the kind that has moved so much of the world’s manufacturing to China. China that steals intellectual property and uses slave labor so you can save a few dollars...


That probably applies to the clothes on your back as well.

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Apr 23, 2020 14:07:34   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Bridges wrote:
Part of the search for non-OEM batteries is due to savings, and yes, I could afford to buy OEM, but part of it is in protest to the manufacturers wanting to charge so much extra for their accessories. I mean if someone can make a perfectly good battery and sell it for 26.00 when the manufacturer wants 70.00 for it just rubs me the wrong way. I would be OK paying more, say 40.00 for an OEM battery given they have to have a few bucks to support their advertising budget etc., but come on, they would sell more of their batteries if they lowered the price and possibly close down some of the companies making non-OEM batteries. I think there just isn't good thought going into what they do with their pricing a lot of times. The inflated price of OEM equipment beyond the camera itself just invites competition from competing companies. Also the fact they have to make a new battery every time they introduce a new camera is just as telling -- they just see how to smack it to the consumer. Nikon did a good job in keeping the same battery for the D750, 800, 810, but that ended and they are back to producing all new batteries for their new models.
Part of the search for non-OEM batteries is due to... (show quote)


And sometimes, you just get what you pay for, plain and simple....

I have gone thru several non-oem grips for my Nikons.... Neewer & Mieke.... well, they fit OK, and they worked.... BUT, they also had electrical issues causing the green activity light to go on and off on the camera when the camera was just sitting powered off - like a battery was being put in and taken out. Replaced the cheapie grip with a Nikon grip, perfect fit, looks and feels good, complete metal skeleton under the plastic and no electrical issue any more. Did it cost more - you bet it did, but then there were no issues with it for years of use.

For my 80D I never thought twice - wanted a grip, bought a Canon Grip, my 90D now is using that grip.

When it comes to batteries, know what you are buying - a cheap knock off or counterfeit is not a good investment. Buying a reputable non-oem brand often may be a good deal and work out fine, but if a repair is needed, using a non-oem battery could give the warranty service an out.

That being said, I have used Wasabi batteries in my Nikons - never had an issue. For my 80D & 90D I use STK's lp-e6 2,600 mAh batteries with no issues over several years now. I would not hesitate to replace them with new STK's or Wasabi of the same mAh capacity.

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Apr 23, 2020 14:13:34   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I weave my own cloth... and I don’t need 100 shirts and 40 pair of shoes.

rcarol wrote:
That probably applies to the clothes on your back as well.

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Apr 23, 2020 14:36:17   #
Amielee Loc: Eastern Washington State
 
Npt Bob wrote:
I want to purchase some Nikon EN-EL15a batteries so I started my search by going on line to my favorites - B&H and Adorama. I then checked on eBay - original only no other brands.
Huge price difference - approximately $60 vs $20 on eBay (shipping from Calif - did not include any shipping from China)
Anyone have experience with eBay sellers for batteries?
Thanks


I purchased a couple of Canon batteries from E-Bay and they were supposed to be original Canon batteries. About 8 months later I got an e-mail from the vendor saying Canon informed him they were counterfeits and presented a fire danger. Sorry no refund. But he did send me a notice they were counterfeits,

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Apr 23, 2020 15:01:30   #
John Maher Loc: Northern Virginia
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Wow, I guess your thinking is the kind that has moved so much of the world’s manufacturing to China. China that steals intellectual property and uses slave labor so you can save a few dollars...


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Actually, Statistical Quality Control was begun by Demming and others in WWII and key to US wartime production of quality weapons -- the Arsenal of Democracy.

After the war, US was only intact manufacturing base so quality was not a competitive issue. US abandoned it and Japan took it up, not China -- and postwar Japanese junk replaced by quality.

Then it came back to US. Lots of US success stories. DoD and Defense industries call it Six Sigma. Also Baldridge Quality awards if you have seen any Chevrolet ads. Very US, but not universal.

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Apr 23, 2020 15:02:21   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Wow, I guess your thinking is the kind that has moved so much of the world’s manufacturing to China. China that steals intellectual property and uses slave labor so you can save a few dollars...


So you are proposing I buy Nikon batteries made in the US rather than the Chinese batteries? I have to laugh at this -- go look at your cameras, batteries, almost everything -- they will say Made in China! Nikon batteries are made there right beside the non-OEM batteries -- now look who's being naive. The answer to all this is to make manufacturing viable in the US again. This could be done by properly regulating import/export levels -- we should not be running up a 4:1 trade deficit with other countries.

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Apr 23, 2020 15:04:50   #
greigfla
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Wow, I guess your thinking is the kind that has moved so much of the world’s manufacturing to China. China that steals intellectual property and uses slave labor so you can save a few dollars...


It is exactly the kind of thinking that causes international corporations to move their manufacturing from one cheap country to the next . . . and then on to the next country when it can beat the cost. . . etc. It's called Capitalism and its all about profits, not batteries. Have you checked where your latest "Japanese" camera was made?

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Apr 23, 2020 15:09:51   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
The only issue I've ever had with an aftermarket battery was one that I had for an Olympus camera that seller up. Other than that one (and I have been using aftermarket for decades) I have had no other issues. And yes, Most manufacturing has moved overseas due to cheaper labor... It seems SE Asia is the current trend...

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Apr 23, 2020 15:27:01   #
Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
 
Bridges wrote:
So you are proposing I buy Nikon batteries made in the US rather than the Chinese batteries? I have to laugh at this -- go look at your cameras, batteries, almost everything -- they will say Made in China! Nikon batteries are made there right beside the non-OEM batteries -- now look who's being naive. The answer to all this is to make manufacturing viable in the US again. This could be done by properly regulating import/export levels -- we should not be running up a 4:1 trade deficit with other countries.
So you are proposing I buy Nikon batteries made in... (show quote)


When you buy "Nikon" or other camera brand batteries from an online source at a price that is dramatically lower than any US authorized Nikon seller, you are probably getting a lower priced fraud. If there is enough money and enough sales volume, I believe the Chinese will infringe on copyrights and design patents to make and sell cheaper copies of the original. I've seen good copies. Most of the quasi-Nikon batteries I have bought work at least "OK". But, I know they are fakes with all the labels and cosmetics of the originals. Everything is copied in China. They don't have laws that restrict them. And whatever moral code exists there doesn't seem to apply if money is involved and the buyer is foreign.

Years ago, I wanted to buy a simple piece of ladies' jewelry, a bangle bracelet. The manufacturer came back with a range of quotes, 11 in all, separated by different manufacturing quality or lack of it. They will sell and ship anything including fake baby formula and pharmaceuticals. No laws, no industry standards, no safety or health codes, no integrity.

Guess what shows up when you buy the cheapest priced items on Amazon?

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Apr 23, 2020 15:30:51   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Paul Diamond wrote:
When you buy "Nikon" or other camera brand batteries from an online source at a price that is dramatically lower than any US authorized Nikon seller, you are probably getting a lower priced fraud. If there is enough money and enough sales volume, I believe the Chinese will infringe on copyrights and design patents to make and sell cheaper copies of the original. I've seen good copies. Most of the quasi-Nikon batteries I have bought work at least "OK". But, I know they are fakes with all the labels and cosmetics of the originals. Everything is copied in China. They don't have laws that restrict them. And whatever moral code exists there doesn't seem to apply if money is involved and the buyer is foreign.

Years ago, I wanted to buy a simple piece of ladies' jewelry, a bangle bracelet. The manufacturer came back with a range of quotes, 11 in all, separated by different manufacturing quality or lack of it. They will sell and ship anything including fake baby formula and pharmaceuticals. No laws, no industry standards, no safety or health codes, no integrity.

Guess what shows up when you buy the cheapest priced items on Amazon?
When you buy "Nikon" or other camera bra... (show quote)


Yep... for sure. I do my best these days to avoid buying anything made in China, but it is difficult at best, and mostly impossible for some items.

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Apr 23, 2020 15:50:47   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Not sure where or what you buy but my camera says made in Japan, as do my lenses and even their hoods. And even the OEM batteries do too. So who is naive and who is buying Chinese...

Bridges wrote:
So you are proposing I buy Nikon batteries made in the US rather than the Chinese batteries? I have to laugh at this -- go look at your cameras, batteries, almost everything -- they will say Made in China! Nikon batteries are made there right beside the non-OEM batteries -- now look who's being naive. The answer to all this is to make manufacturing viable in the US again. This could be done by properly regulating import/export levels -- we should not be running up a 4:1 trade deficit with other countries.
So you are proposing I buy Nikon batteries made in... (show quote)

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Apr 23, 2020 15:50:56   #
BebuLamar
 
rcarol wrote:
That probably applies to the clothes on your back as well.


And shoes too but I am not responsible. I tried my best to avoid that since the 90's. But of course I am only one in the million I can't affect the changes.

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Apr 23, 2020 15:52:27   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Mine says made in Japan, as do my lenses, hoods and OEM batteries. Maybe I am being lied to by Canon, eh.

greigfla wrote:
It is exactly the kind of thinking that causes international corporations to move their manufacturing from one cheap country to the next . . . and then on to the next country when it can beat the cost. . . etc. It's called Capitalism and its all about profits, not batteries. Have you checked where your latest "Japanese" camera was made?

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Apr 23, 2020 15:56:10   #
Npt Bob Loc: Newport, RI
 
First I apologize for not being able to respond sooner. I have read all the responses to my question. As usual a lot of good info and varying options based on experience. I’m an old fart, non professional, with many years of 35mm film/slide photography. Switched to a cropped digital quite a few years ago and have wanted to upgrade to full frame, but being retired on a fixed income I couldn’t justify spending thousands on a full frame body. But just purchased a Nikon D610 package with battery grip from Adorama. It came with a Nikon battery and a Green Extreme battery.
My original question had to do with purchasing a few Nikon batteries, as I don’t want to take any chances re the warranty - use the Green Extreme as a backup for now. The concern is whether the much less expensive “original Nikon” advertised on eBay are real or fake. With what all has been stated here I will pay the higher price from my trusted sources B&H or Adorama. But I thank all and will be looking at some of your other brand recommendations for additional backup.

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Apr 23, 2020 16:01:05   #
BebuLamar
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Mine says made in Japan, as do my lenses, hoods and OEM batteries. Maybe I am being lied to by Canon, eh.


Canon do make more cameras in Japan than Nikon. If you want to buy a Japanese made Nikon you have 2 choices for DSLR's the D5 and Df. You have 2 choices for the mirrorless Z6 and Z7. That's all. But if I walk in a store and ask the salesperson a bunch of questions about the camera he would at least try to answer. But if I ask where is the camera made I would get a dirty look. The majority of the people in the US don't care where things made.

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