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Apr 21, 2020 10:50:09   #
markwilliam1
 
authorizeduser wrote:
From what I have read, some get excellent service from Wasabi and others not so much. However this seems to be true no matter what brand you choose. Appears to be a crap shoot with some brands having more issues than others. The Wasabi LP-E6 battery is $10.99 so I guess I will give it a shot. Risk is minimal. Has to be better than my 3 year old failing Canon battery which only gives me about 100 shots per charge. If I get burned, I am only out $10.99 and will stick with OEM Canon. Of all the 3rd party batteries I have investigated, Wasabi seems to have the least amount of reported issues and is recommended most by reviewers. We shall see .........
From what I have read, some get excellent service ... (show quote)

Of course the Wasabi doesn’t have the capacity of OEM batteries but with 2 you can easily swap out. My problem is the battery’s swelled! I had a hell of a time trying to remove it from my RX10M4! It was stuck inside the battery compartment and completely flush so no way to try and grab it...I had to resort to banging my camera to get it loose which Pissed me off! If it didn’t come a little loose I would’ve had to send it in for repairs which I understand is closed now and would Not be under warranty anyway. All this happened this week and the batteries were less than a year old! So Risk is Not Minimal in my opinion!

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Apr 21, 2020 10:54:51   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Kinda like buying a Porsche and using regular gas. Best of luck.

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Apr 21, 2020 11:26:01   #
bweber Loc: Newton, MA
 
I always use OEM batteries and I have never had any problems. My Canon batteries seem to last a long time and the batteries in my 1ds lll seem to never need to lose a charge no matter how long I shoot. I have never understood why you would spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on high quality cameras and then save a little money, and possibly risk your camera, on lower price batteries.

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Apr 21, 2020 11:57:48   #
PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
authorizeduser wrote:
I have a Canon 80D which is about 3 years old and has the original Canon battery which came with it. I fear the battery is failing because after charging for over 24 hrs, the camera reports a 60% charge and after taking 80 photos I have only 2 bars left.

Here is my question. I was ready to pay the $63 B&H wants for an QEM battery. Several people have recommended I try a Wasabi battery. A single battery is $10.99 vs $63. Now I know when things sound too good to be true, they usually are. There has to be a reason the OEM is so much more money.

Anyone have any experience with Wasabi batteries who can shed some light on this?

Thanks to all who respond
I have a Canon 80D which is about 3 years old and ... (show quote)


Just make sure the mAh ratings are the same as the original or better. The higher the mAg rating, the longer it will last when shooting. Replacing a higher mAh battery with a lower one will result in fewer shots per battery. Wasabi batteries are very good.

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Apr 21, 2020 12:16:22   #
CPR Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
 
Always use the off brand vs the OEM. Even if the off brand is only 80% as efficient I can still buy 10 of them for the price of the OEM. It's a no-brainrer.

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Apr 21, 2020 12:50:29   #
Brian S. Loc: Oak Park, MI
 
authorizeduser wrote:
I have a Canon 80D which is about 3 years old and has the original Canon battery which came with it. I fear the battery is failing because after charging for over 24 hrs, the camera reports a 60% charge and after taking 80 photos I have only 2 bars left.

Here is my question. I was ready to pay the $63 B&H wants for an QEM battery. Several people have recommended I try a Wasabi battery. A single battery is $10.99 vs $63. Now I know when things sound too good to be true, they usually are. There has to be a reason the OEM is so much more money.

Anyone have any experience with Wasabi batteries who can shed some light on this?

Thanks to all who respond
I have a Canon 80D which is about 3 years old and ... (show quote)


I have a bunch of them for my new 90D some of which were used in my 80D they are great and often come with free chargers when purchased at Amazon.

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Apr 21, 2020 13:12:50   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
The use of a third party battery cannot of itself void your warranty. That’s the law. Now if the third party battery does in fact cause damage, that won’t be covered. I use all kinds of batteries, Watson, Wasabi, Powerextra, Kasparov, in all of my cameras, Nikons, Panasonic, Fuji, the only battery to fail so far was the Nikon battery that came with my D500.

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Apr 21, 2020 13:39:40   #
Richard Engelmann Loc: Boulder, Colorado
 
Sometimes the charge/discharge aspect is not the only problem. LiIon batteries have a failure mode that involves slight swelling of the case. I have applications where this is a problem, such as the close clearance in my helmet-cam housing. Having a battery stuck in your device is a bummer. If the OEM battery seems to have little physical clearance, then the aftermarket versions might become too tight. That said, where the swelling was not a problem, I have had good results from aftermarket batteries including Wasabi.

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Apr 21, 2020 14:52:14   #
Dave H2
 
BuckeyeBilly wrote:


Been using 3rd party batteries for many years , Nikon D70, D200, D300s, D7200 never a problem. I carry fully charged spares in my bag and just change over as needed. I have never had a leak in probably 60 AA and AAA Lithium Ion batteries nor any camera ones either. Now, standard AA & AAA Alkaline, another story. They leak all the time and I try not to leave them in devices for any length of storage time.
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Apr 21, 2020 15:23:36   #
markwilliam1
 
PGHphoto wrote:
Just make sure the mAh ratings are the same as the original or better. The higher the mAh I the longer it will last when shooting. Replacing a higher mAh battery with a lower one will result in fewer shots per battery. Wasabi batteries are very good.

They are Not very good! Have a much lower mAh then stated but they worked well and I liked them Until they swelled! Not recommended but y’all can take a chance on them. Good luck getting one out of your camera if it swells!

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Apr 21, 2020 16:39:51   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
authorizeduser wrote:
I have a Canon 80D which is about 3 years old and has the original Canon battery which came with it. I fear the battery is failing because after charging for over 24 hrs, the camera reports a 60% charge and after taking 80 photos I have only 2 bars left.

Here is my question. I was ready to pay the $63 B&H wants for an QEM battery. Several people have recommended I try a Wasabi battery. A single battery is $10.99 vs $63. Now I know when things sound too good to be true, they usually are. There has to be a reason the OEM is so much more money.

Anyone have any experience with Wasabi batteries who can shed some light on this?

Thanks to all who respond
I have a Canon 80D which is about 3 years old and ... (show quote)


I've used Wasabi (and other 3rd party) batteries in the past and they were fine....

BUT, those were replacements for the simpler Canon BP511 and BP511A I was using at the time.

The newer LP-E6 and LP-E6N that you and I use now are different. They're "smart" batteries, with added "controller" circuitry of some sort.

I don't claim to know the details of these newer batteries, and can't say one way or another about Wasabi in particular.... but some third party "replacements" for LP-E6/E6N cannot be charged in the Canon OEM charger, require a different type of charger for some reason. I have been led to believe it has to do with the way the Canon charge interacts with the battery and that the 3rd party don't have the circuitry to do so. Plus, that type of 3rd party battery also won't "report" with as much detail in the camera and may not show their charge state as accurately, though they will work to power the camera. I would ask if it can be charged in the OEM Canon charger, before buying any third party battery. I'd avoid any that can't.

Instead, when it comes to LP-E6 I "bit the bullet", paid the price and bought Canon OEM. It was worse when Canon first introduced them (along with the 5D Mark II, if I recall). Back then they were selling for $100 or more apiece. Both the list price was higher and retailers were marking them up farther because they were in short supply. (The first spare LP-E6 I got for my 5D Mark II battery grip I had to buy from Canada and paid $125 for!)

One nice thing... I get a lot more "shots per charge" with my LP-E6/E6N. With the old BP511A I had to carry two spares for each battery I had in a camera... often that was three cameras, each with a grip = a total of 18 batteries (which is why I bought some of the cheaper third party batteries). Now with LP-E6/E6N I only need to carry one backup for each battery in my cameras ... up to three cameras, each with a grip = 12 batteries total.

BTW, if your camera and battery have sat unused for quite a while, you might go through several charge/use & drain/recharge cycles and see if it starts taking a fuller charge and giving you more shots per charge. I've had batteries that sat unused for a long time get so drained that at first they wouldn't take a full charge... But after a half dozen or so drain/recharge cycles they bounced back nicely and were usable. I don't know if that will work for you with an LP-E6/E6N. (I have some of those that I've been using in various cameras for eight or nine years that are still working fine... But they do get used and recharged fairly regularly.)

EDIT: Also, there are rumors of a new LP-E6N coming soon... higher capacity and probably introduced alongside the anticipated EOS R5 mirrorless that's likely to be announced this summer. Supposedly it will be fully backward compatible for use in cameras that used LP-E6N and LP-E6 (and those batts will be usable in the R5?). If so, there might be a close-out sale on the "old" LP-E6N.

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Apr 21, 2020 16:41:57   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
authorizeduser wrote:
I have a Canon 80D which is about 3 years old and has the original Canon battery which came with it. I fear the battery is failing because after charging for over 24 hrs, the camera reports a 60% charge and after taking 80 photos I have only 2 bars left.

Here is my question. I was ready to pay the $63 B&H wants for an QEM battery. Several people have recommended I try a Wasabi battery. A single battery is $10.99 vs $63. Now I know when things sound too good to be true, they usually are. There has to be a reason the OEM is so much more money.

Anyone have any experience with Wasabi batteries who can shed some light on this?

Thanks to all who respond
I have a Canon 80D which is about 3 years old and ... (show quote)


There are several aftermarket batteries that get recommended by folks here all the time. Wasabi is one of them.

I use Kastars, which I buy on eBay, only directly from KastarUSA. They work well on my Canon 60D, 40D and 50D. You can buy several for the price of one OEM, so even if one could say they don't last as long in-camera, you can have a pocketful of spares.

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Apr 21, 2020 17:32:45   #
PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
They are Not very good! Have a much lower mAh then stated but they worked well and I liked them Until they swelled! Not recommended but y’all can take a chance on them. Good luck getting one out of your camera if it swells!


Sorry to hear you had a bad battery or batteries. What specific brand of aftermarket battery were you using? I have had Canon batteries swell (for a T2i) but not ready to trash the entire Canon company for a bad experience.

I rely on approximately 6 aftermarket batteries and 2 OEM Canons. The aftermarket ones have a higher mAh rating and last at least 50% longer in use. I currently use a Vivitar branded set which I found years ago and was able to verify were made by the same company that painted Canon on OEM batteries sold by Canon. (No camera manufacturer makes their own batteries). I am glad I didn't pay more for the expensive paint since the battery is in all ways identical to Canon branded batteries and manufactured on the same line.

I have never heard of a battery swelling in a single use to make it un-removeable (not saying it can't happen just that the folks I have talked to said they noticed a potential problem but put it in anyway). In fact in my case, charging caused the issue and I never will put a swollen battery in a camera even if it will go in.

Overcharging due to charger failure is the most common cause. Other things can cause the swelling but I personally have not heard of anyone having a 'normal' battery come out swelled after a single use.

Your results may vary ...

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Apr 21, 2020 17:37:23   #
PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
Of course the Wasabi doesn’t have the capacity of OEM batteries but with 2 you can easily swap out. My problem is the battery’s swelled! I had a hell of a time trying to remove it from my RX10M4! It was stuck inside the battery compartment and completely flush so no way to try and grab it...I had to resort to banging my camera to get it loose which Pissed me off! If it didn’t come a little loose I would’ve had to send it in for repairs which I understand is closed now and would Not be under warranty anyway. All this happened this week and the batteries were less than a year old! So Risk is Not Minimal in my opinion!
Of course the Wasabi doesn’t have the capacity of ... (show quote)


Your Wasabi batteries swelled ? Also, why didn't you buy the Wasabi's that DID match or exceed the mAh rating ? Not challenging you on it - just curious. Have you talked to Wasabi and replaced them or got money back ?

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Apr 21, 2020 17:39:06   #
josquin1 Loc: Massachusetts
 
Try a Watson battery. I had one as my backup battery for my 80d and it never let me down. An excellent product.

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