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Apr 13, 2020 07:56:09   #
WesIam Loc: Phoenixville, Pa
 
I use Tamron 100-400mm on my D850,a great pair.

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Apr 13, 2020 08:01:39   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Architect1776 wrote:

I did, it is incredible.


When you see what it takes to build a top quality lens the question is no longer 'Why does it cost so much' but rather 'How can they sell them so cheaply?'
I watched a documentary a while back on the making of lens elements. Very labor intensive for high quality lenses.

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Apr 13, 2020 08:14:33   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
LFingar wrote:
When you see what it takes to build a top quality lens the question is no longer 'Why does it cost so much' but rather 'How can they sell them so cheaply?'
I watched a documentary a while back on the making of lens elements. Very labor intensive for high quality lenses.



Exactly my thought.
Mechanically a prime is simpler by far.

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Apr 13, 2020 08:14:58   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
WesIam wrote:
I use Tamron 100-400mm on my D850,a great pair.


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Apr 13, 2020 08:27:36   #
agillot
 
i inherited a 28/300 tamron xr di , same thing , it will focus very close .perfect walk around lens , small / light .i ll bet cheap now on the used market .

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Apr 13, 2020 08:42:42   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
Architect1776 wrote:
We took a walk on the Susquehanna River at the Hiawatha Landing with the 100-400mm MII only. There are many questions about this lens and misunderstandings. I am showing the versatility if you have just this lens on a walk.
First is at 100mm of a Cherry Tree.
Second is a Bumble Bee.
Third is a Dandelion
Fourth is a Goose way out on the river at 400mm.
Fifth is a Trout Lilly.
The flowers are quite small, perhaps about an inch or a bit more across, the bumble bee most know how small they are, the goose was about 1/2 way across the river.
This should help answer questions about what a great lens this is for a walk on the river or in the woods. The close-ups were all at about 400mm.
We took a walk on the Susquehanna River at the Hia... (show quote)




Well done.

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Apr 13, 2020 15:25:44   #
Jolly Roger Loc: Dorset. UK
 
robertjerl wrote:
That is why I have owned the first model and now the second model.


Same here Robert.

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Apr 13, 2020 15:39:58   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
riscpc wrote:
Take a look at this Teardown of the Lens to see how well built it is.

https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2015/02/canon-100-400-is-l-mk-ii-teardown-best-built-lens-ever/


For those that don't want to read the article, here is the important part:

"I know I can’t really, without showing you dozens of other lenses, do a good job of impressing you with just how robustly engineered this lens is. I will say that the insides look more like what we’d expect to see in a 500mm f/4 or 600mm f/4 lens, rather than a telezoom. It’s by far the most heavily engineered zoom lens Aaron and I have ever seen; and we’ve seen the insides of dozens of lenses in this range.

Well done, Canon engineers, well done"!

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Apr 13, 2020 16:12:02   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Orson Burleigh wrote:
The Canon EF 100-400mm second generation zoom L lens is superb. Though the ability to bring the far near is everything that one would expect, this lens' short-range focusing capability at full extension was a happy surprise - it is not, strictly speaking, a macro lens, but it is something very close to that. If one regards this lens as a hammer, much of what is visible can be seen as nails.
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I agree that the Canon EF 100-400mm II is a great lens. However, it is not a macro, not even close.

The photos below are of Spring beauty flowers, which are consistent in size, about 5/8" in diameter. The first photo was taken with the Canon EF 100-400mm II a couple of days ago at minimum focus and at 400mm focal length, the second with the Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro focused not quite as close as possible.

Mike


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Apr 13, 2020 16:15:38   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Architect1776 wrote:
We took a walk on the Susquehanna River at the Hiawatha Landing with the 100-400mm MII only. There are many questions about this lens and misunderstandings. I am showing the versatility if you have just this lens on a walk.
First is at 100mm of a Cherry Tree.
Second is a Bumble Bee.
Third is a Dandelion
Fourth is a Goose way out on the river at 400mm.
Fifth is a Trout Lilly.
The flowers are quite small, perhaps about an inch or a bit more across, the bumble bee most know how small they are, the goose was about 1/2 way across the river.
This should help answer questions about what a great lens this is for a walk on the river or in the woods. The close-ups were all at about 400mm.
We took a walk on the Susquehanna River at the Hia... (show quote)



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Apr 13, 2020 16:41:00   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
I agree that the Canon EF 100-400mm II is a great lens. However, it is not a macro, not even close.

The photos below are of Spring beauty flowers, which are consistent in size, about 5/8" in diameter. The first photo was taken with the Canon EF 100-400mm II a couple of days ago at minimum focus and at 400mm focal length, the second with the Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro focused not quite as close as possible.

Mike


It sure beats the heck out of Nikon and Sony offerings.
Also over and over it is NOT a macro lens but close.
The 50mm macro and Nikon 55mm micro are MACRO lenses and go to 1/2 life size. The 100-400mm is in reality a bit more than 1/3 life size which is incredible for a 400mm range zoom.
PS I also have the 100mm f2.8 L macro and yes I know it goes to 1:1.
I also use bellows and extension tubes exceeding 400mm on the bellows so I AM aware of what macro is and so do the others commenting here.
It is just an amazing zoom lens with a versatility far exceeding a fixed 100mm macro and except for hyper small things does an admirable job up close at 400mm. Try getting the flower I showed then the duck by just turning around with no fumbling around changing lenses. Then think about which for a walk in the woods utterly smokes the other.

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Apr 13, 2020 16:43:56   #
Photocraig
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Thx.
This subject comes up a lot and I wanted to really show besides being a long zoom it is an incredible near macro lens.


With plenty of working room.

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Apr 13, 2020 16:48:24   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Photocraig wrote:
With plenty of working room.



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Apr 13, 2020 16:50:06   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Thx.
This subject comes up a lot and I wanted to really show besides being a long zoom it is an incredible near macro lens.


I knew you would get called out on your "incredible near macro lens" comment.
I am just surprised it took to page 2.
Some people are just too literal here on the Hog!

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Apr 13, 2020 16:51:15   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Architect1776 wrote:
It sure beats the heck out of Nikon and Sony offerings.
Also over and over it is NOT a macro lens but close.
The 50mm macro and Nikon 55mm micro are MACRO lenses and go to 1/2 life size. The 100-400mm is in reality a bit more than 1/3 life size which is incredible for a 400mm range zoom.
PS I also have the 100mm f2.8 L macro and yes I know it goes to 1:1.
I also use bellows and extension tubes exceeding 400mm on the bellows so I AM aware of what macro is and so do the others commenting here.
It is just an amazing zoom lens with a versatility far exceeding a fixed 100mm macro and except for hyper small things does an admirable job up close at 400mm. Try getting the flower I showed then the duck by just turning around with no fumbling around changing lenses. Then think about which for a walk in the woods utterly smokes the other.
It sure beats the heck out of Nikon and Sony offer... (show quote)


I love the 100-400mm II. I have been using that lens walking in the woods the last 10-12 days or so. It is a remarkable lens, no question about that. But it is not "very close to macro," or even "close to macro." That is not a criticism of the lens, nor of you, nor of your images, but rather merely a point of clarification.

Mike

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