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Apr 12, 2020 16:34:48   #
Salomj9850
 
When photo processing never do your work on the orig. Copy the image and work on the copy. That way you're safe. If you don't like the results of your new image then simply don't save the image.

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Apr 12, 2020 16:56:10   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
That sounds like a challenge from my favorite Scotsman I'm scouring my archives as we speak!


I hope you realise that if you post shots taken by the minute sensor of your SX50 I'll be immediately sceptical?

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Apr 12, 2020 16:57:10   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
R.G. wrote:
I hope you realise that if you post shots taken by the minute sensor of your SX50 I'll be immediately sceptical?
😇 😇

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Apr 12, 2020 18:02:44   #
smussler Loc: Land O Lakes, FL - Formerly Miller Place, NY
 
With lighting where you think may get an improperly exposed image, I put my camera in burst mode and take 3 bracketed shots. Check your camera manual for setting up bracketing. Some cameras support more than 3 bracketed shots, mine doesn't. The bracket can be set for 1/3 stop, 1/2 stop and other size brackets. Using bracketing, you'll get 3 images with slightly different exposures and you can chose which you like. What is adjusted depends on what mode you're using - Aperture priority, shutter priority, etc. Again check your camera manual for more details.

One thing to remember is to turn bracketing off, as you'll be wondering what's going on with you're pics. Been there, done that.

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Apr 12, 2020 19:12:08   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
larryepage wrote:
I thought I was getting a handle on exposure until my local photography club had training and a contest related to "nigh key" and "low key" photography. It turns out that just like in music, painting, writing (both prose and poetry), and other arts, while there are rules and guidelines, there are also times when those rules and guidelines don't need to be followed. The term "correct exposure" has come to occupy a spot on the throne of photography which it may or may not deserve. The fact is that most environments and subjects that we would photograph contain a wider range of tonality than we can fully capture and a much wider range of tonality than we could ever print or otherwise display.

There is always a lot of discussions here about checking out histograms after exposure. That is not necessarily bad advice, but it is almost guaranteed to create frustration somewhere along the way. Often, getting one end of the histogram right will result in problems at the other end.

So I've come to look at correct exposure a little differently. My approach is not revolutionary but rather is based on the old Zone System for controlling the exposure and printing processes during the days of film. To perhaps oversimplify a little bit, if I see that I have lost usable important detail in the highlights, then I consider that my image is overexposed. Conversely, if I've not captured usable detail in the important shadows, then I consider that my image is underexposed. Sometimes if is not possible to correct one of these without losing the other one. If that happens, there may be several options...using lower ISO (to gain dynamic range), using an HDR approach, or adjusting my goal for that image. And I've done each of the three of these at times over the years.

Your image is fine as it is as a "high key" image. In fact, you might even go a little further if that is your vision.

Of course, you might also want to consider being a little pickier about your backgrounds. A step or two to the left (if possible) could have eliminated the truck and in fact, most of the brightest part of the background, which would have resulted in a gentler, less harsh image.

You will learn as you gain experience. But let it be fun, not drudgery. Good luck on your journey.
I thought I was getting a handle on exposure until... (show quote)




Sometimes there is a misconception about HIGH KEY and LOW KEY photography. High key images are usually not derived by overexposing nor is a low key image the product of an underexposure. A high key image can be precisely and normally exposed but the image consists of the higher end of the grayscale or densities or "chroma" of color. For example, a true high key portrait needs a high key subject- perhaps a fair complected blond child on a white background dressed in white or light pastel clothing- the skin being the darkest element and therefore becomes the motif of the image. A low key image works best with a low key subject- say a person with a darker complexion, dark hair, on a dark background wearing dark clothing- the skin tone is the brightest element and thereby is the main focal point. If any of the elements are out of key, no alteration of exposure will make any difference. Just having a white or black background does not determine the actual KEY.

This, of course, is a purest method or theory but my point is that exposure is not the main determination of the KEY of an image.

The zone system, for film photography, also requires exacting attention to exposure but it is not necessarily the exposure recommended by the film manufacturers. Negatives were intentionally over or underexposed to accommodate altered processing that in turn altered the contrast and range- further manipulation is applied in the printing of the image. There are similar methods in digital work, such as exposing to the left,
shooting in RAW and compensating in post-processing, etc. Theoretically, we are changing the NORMAL exposure method but with a precise plan.

In color film transparency work, slight underexposure would yield more saturated colors. In color negative film work, 1 stop overexposure yields more contrast and saturation.

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Apr 12, 2020 20:08:36   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
It is over-exposed in my opinion but what matters is how you feel about it.

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Apr 12, 2020 20:15:57   #
custodian Loc: New York
 
I agree with Leitz i you like it thats all that matters but... if you want it to look alot better you are asking the right people.

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Apr 12, 2020 20:19:51   #
Bluefish Loc: Berks County, PA
 
Rod Clabaugh wrote:
Being somewhat new to photography I have a question. When it comes to taking photos how can you tell if a picture is under or overexposed? Isn’t a little subjective? I find the task of photo editing daunting because I’m not sure if I should change a picture or not. It really handcuffs me sometimes because I don’t want to ruin a photo.


I too think it looks fine capturing the essence of a cat basking in the sun.

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Apr 12, 2020 20:22:15   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I find the comment that a photo should show what the eye sees. To me that is usually an impossible goal as the eye has a larger dynamic range than the camera does... We can see things that the camera cannot capture in one shot.

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Apr 12, 2020 21:52:18   #
Rod Clabaugh Loc: Red Bluff, Northern California
 
Thanks everyone I’m getting a lot of good feedback in a kind manner which I appreciate. I do know how to to make duplicates so you have practice copies to work on ,I just meant ruin in the sense of me settling for a picture that is just all wrong because I don’t know any better. Lol. The weird thing is I shoot all my images in Raw but I posted this picture away from my computer with my iPad and I guess the program I sent it from had changed it to jpeg or tiff I’m not sure. Does iPad not support raw images?

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Apr 12, 2020 22:23:54   #
bleirer
 
Rod Clabaugh wrote:
Thanks everyone I’m getting a lot of good feedback in a kind manner which I appreciate. I do know how to to make duplicates so you have practice copies to work on ,I just meant ruin in the sense of me settling for a picture that is just all wrong because I don’t know any better. Lol. The weird thing is I shoot all my images in Raw but I posted this picture away from my computer with my iPad and I guess the program I sent it from had changed it to jpeg or tiff I’m not sure. Does iPad not support raw images?
Thanks everyone I’m getting a lot of good feedback... (show quote)


To post here or anywhere on the web you want it to be a jpeg in srgb color if you are given a choice.

Shooting in raw is still good because those really bright areas can sometimes be recovered where they might be lost if you shot in jpeg.

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Apr 12, 2020 22:27:49   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Rod Clabaugh wrote:
Thanks everyone I’m getting a lot of good feedback in a kind manner which I appreciate. I do know how to to make duplicates so you have practice copies to work on ,I just meant ruin in the sense of me settling for a picture that is just all wrong because I don’t know any better. Lol. The weird thing is I shoot all my images in Raw but I posted this picture away from my computer with my iPad and I guess the program I sent it from had changed it to jpeg or tiff I’m not sure. Does iPad not support raw images?
Thanks everyone I’m getting a lot of good feedback... (show quote)

What use would a ‘raw’ image be? It is manufacturer specific, and so few users of another manufacturer could even view it. If you posted a photo from a Canon camera, most Nikon, Sony, Olympus, Pentax, etc users would be left out. If you posted a photo from a Nikon camera, most Sony, Olympus, Pentax, Canon, etc users would be left out. Thus, the UHH itself was doesn’t try to interpret ‘raw’ files.

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Apr 12, 2020 22:32:18   #
aubreybogle Loc: Albuquerque, NM
 
Thank you, I always read your informed and informative responses to posts.

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Apr 12, 2020 23:27:07   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Rod Clabaugh wrote:
...Does iPad not support raw images?


If IOS and your processing ap supports your particular raw files, then yes, and IPad will support them. For example, I have Lightroom and Canon Connect installed on my IPad, and it allows the import and editing of Canon CR2/3 files as does the Fuji Cam ap for my Fuji raw files.

Having said that, you would generally be uploading JPEGs to UHH as mentioned above. My EXIF reader could not read the EXIF data on the image you posted (perhaps your post processing ap stripped off the EXIF data?), hence the reason for the comment I believe.

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Apr 13, 2020 09:03:13   #
Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
From an aesthetic standpoint, you, the photographer, are the final judge of how light or dark your image should be. For a close-up of this cat, you have a great pose and closeness. A few adjustments to your exposure and focus will improve the result.

From a technical standpoint, you can see in the 1:1 details, the technical aspects of the image to consider:

1. Over-exposed whites, lacking detail, both visually and when looking at the histogram. On your camera, if you set the display for the histogram and activate the highlight warnings, you'll see 'blinking' warnings of over exposure. Use those warnings to adjust your exposure parameters. See your camera manual for details.

2. For focus, for people or animals, seek the sharpest focus on the nearest eye to the camera. This can be done using a single AF point directly on the subject's eye. Again, consult your camera manual for how to select an individual AF point and how to move the AF point within the frame.

If you click into the details of the image along the bottom edge, you can see the best focus is the fur at the bottom of the frame. Imagine this image if that sharp focus was on the eye and all the hair on the face with all distinct strands of fur as appears on the leg exiting the frame at the bottom. This cat seems willing to cooperate as you refine your technique.

You'll want 'white whites', so you only need to adjust the exposure slightly so the highlight warnings just stop blinking. The EXIF data is missing from the attachment, so you'll have to look at the image on your end and decide if a faster shutter or lower ISO (or both) is the parameter to adjust to just slightly lower the exposure on the whites of the fur.
From an aesthetic standpoint, you, the photographe... (show quote)


I agree with most of this reply written here to help the OP - except. Technical 'nit picking' is not the top of my list of considerations when I choose to take a picture and/or post process retouch it for a final result. The eye can see a dynamic range greater than any current digital camera system. The way of recording the image reduces this range, unless you shoot several different exposures and then stack them in HDR post processing. And, the way the final image is presented on screen or (much more reduced dynamic range) print as a fraction of what was recorded by a high MP camera. People who are technically obsessed by the technology are missing more than the "artistry" of the craft. They are missing the meat and potatoes, too.

Here's a good example. If the only pictures you have seen of Ansel Adams' work were in coffee table books or online, you have seen very little. Go to a museum or traveling exhibit when you can and see the silver halide prints of his pictures. You will see a far greater dynamic range of tones in Ansel's images that can not be reproduced on screen or in litho prints.

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