Advice Sought
Apr 10, 2020 14:25:00 #
I hope the image numbers you refer to are the ones in camera card memory, since, if you use a utility it may assign numbers as it goes. My EOS Utility does.
I would use the computer's file explorer (Window Explorer, if Windows) with the USB cable or card reader and not use any program that organizes photos for you (Lightroom, etc) to check file numbers.
Are the missing photos from a session where there are others that did survive?
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I would use the computer's file explorer (Window Explorer, if Windows) with the USB cable or card reader and not use any program that organizes photos for you (Lightroom, etc) to check file numbers.
Are the missing photos from a session where there are others that did survive?
Please use quote reply when responding to a particular response so we can see who you are addressing.
Apr 10, 2020 20:18:28 #
a6k
Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
You, the OP, said in part:
"I downloaded the cards after the wedding and subsequently when going through them to prepare proofs for viewing I discovered I was missing group shots I'd taken mid way through the shoot. I have the shots from before that point in the day and I have shots from after but not the group shots."
I don't read as well as I used to but I don't recall where you said how you did the download. In other words, you don't say what computer application or feature of the OS was used.
I am hesitant to bring this up with someone of your experience and skill, but here goes:
Did you use your OS's file manager in its native mode to look at the card? If so, did you poke around and look in every folder on the card? I suspect it's Windows because Mac users usually say so, being - like me - in the minority. But I think it highly likely that the way Canon uses the card is independent of your computer's OS, probably uses some version of the universally readable FAT for that "volume".
I am not offering any suggestions because I am 100% ignorant about Canon's ways of using cards. But since I'm so uninformed, I can easily conjure up a mystery by which those files could go elsewhere on the card.
Forgive this analogy please, but on my SONY cameras, the video stuff goes in different folders and they are buried pretty well for whatever reason. It's just a thought about an improbable possibility.
"I downloaded the cards after the wedding and subsequently when going through them to prepare proofs for viewing I discovered I was missing group shots I'd taken mid way through the shoot. I have the shots from before that point in the day and I have shots from after but not the group shots."
I don't read as well as I used to but I don't recall where you said how you did the download. In other words, you don't say what computer application or feature of the OS was used.
I am hesitant to bring this up with someone of your experience and skill, but here goes:
Did you use your OS's file manager in its native mode to look at the card? If so, did you poke around and look in every folder on the card? I suspect it's Windows because Mac users usually say so, being - like me - in the minority. But I think it highly likely that the way Canon uses the card is independent of your computer's OS, probably uses some version of the universally readable FAT for that "volume".
I am not offering any suggestions because I am 100% ignorant about Canon's ways of using cards. But since I'm so uninformed, I can easily conjure up a mystery by which those files could go elsewhere on the card.
Forgive this analogy please, but on my SONY cameras, the video stuff goes in different folders and they are buried pretty well for whatever reason. It's just a thought about an improbable possibility.
Apr 11, 2020 08:07:42 #
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Apr 11, 2020 09:46:41 #
pbphoto wrote:
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What did you do differently while capturing the group shots than the other shots? Camera on tripod and remote shutter release? Live view? I had a similar experience the first time I tried to use a recently Infrared converted Canon T3i with live view and a remote shutter release. The camera gave every indication of recording the image each time I executed the release. I could even look at what appeared to be the captured image on the screen, but no files were present when I went to download to my computer. I learned I needed to activate the shutter release twice in order to create a saved image. Just a thought.
Apr 11, 2020 09:47:13 #
Pablo8
Loc: Nottingham UK.
bwilliams wrote:
Try Recouva
I just used Recuva on a CD and it worked a treat.
Apr 11, 2020 10:35:17 #
This is a tough one to solve or at least try to resolve. The previous posts have all made very good suggestions. I cannot figure out how the images are in sequential order with no gaps in file numbering. I am assuming the numbering is as made by the Canon body at the time the image was captured, and not at the time of image download. If it happened at the time of download, I would use a different card reader, card reader cable and computer to try and isolate the problem.
The only other thing I can suggest, and it might be for future pictures from that one Canon body, is to use new Canon batteries and new cards. How can you ever trust that body again for weddings?
The only other thing I can suggest, and it might be for future pictures from that one Canon body, is to use new Canon batteries and new cards. How can you ever trust that body again for weddings?
Apr 11, 2020 10:52:53 #
I surely have no technical thoughts, but was always told that cards that are used over and over, as they would be by a Pro, can eventually do some weird things. I have no idea if that is your problem or if the camera itself malfunctioned, but would get new cards with greater frequency. It is my hope that they are still on the card somewhere and are not irretrievably lost.
Apr 11, 2020 10:59:00 #
Apr 11, 2020 11:08:45 #
Consecutive numbering with no gaps and your chimping of the group shot images should not be possible - it would seem to be a case of one or the other. Is is possible that the group images are actually on the 5DIV and not the 6D?
If not, can you please post the solution if found?
If not, can you please post the solution if found?
Apr 11, 2020 11:41:59 #
One thing that seems to be worth a try would to directly load each card to a separate folder on your computer and then check the photos manually. Also look at the files created for any time/sequence discrepancies. I think you've tried most everything else. Best of luck.
Apr 11, 2020 11:48:52 #
pbphoto wrote:
Thank you for your response. Yes the issue relates only to the 6D. I mentioned the 5D4 only to show that I use more than one body at a wedding and don't try to catch everything on 1 camera or 1 card. There is no great break in the timeline other than would be moving between shots or cameras. The card wasn't removed from the 6D during the relevant time period.
Any chance you maxed the number of shots for that directory/folder (9999 I believe) and the camera created a second folder on the card? Are there multiple DCIM folders on the card?
Apr 11, 2020 13:03:43 #
pbphoto wrote:
Thank you for your response. Yes the issue relates only to the 6D. I mentioned the 5D4 only to show that I use more than one body at a wedding and don't try to catch everything on 1 camera or 1 card. There is no great break in the timeline other than would be moving between shots or cameras. The card wasn't removed from the 6D during the relevant time period.
Is is possible you shot the group photos with only the 5D4? Maybe you picked it up by mistake intending use the 6D?
Apr 11, 2020 13:25:18 #
pbphoto wrote:
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This is completely off the wall, but is it possible that one of the guests had a similar camera setup to your 6D, and that you accidentally used their camera to take the group shots?
Weird I know, but it at least seems to fit the facts.
Good luck and good shooting.
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