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Apr 10, 2020 20:03:50   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Jade Warrior wrote:
There are many ways to view a mountain. But the mountain remains what it is, a mountain, independent of how anyone perceives it. You cannot know absolute truth, you only have your perception of it, and that perception seems to vary considerably on this forum.


Of course you do know, perception is reality, don’t you? I look at a mounts as unclimbable while others look upon it as a challenge. I am physically quite capable of making the climb but mentally the climb offers no incentive. Same mountain but a difference in goals.

My goal was to hunt and kill a trophy African Cape buffalo. Done that. You might be capable but have no interest.

We are all humans with different yet EQUAL perceptions.

Dennis

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Apr 10, 2020 20:05:15   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Jade Warrior wrote:
No it is a statement that you have no greater grasp of absolute truth than anyone else Mr W_nker. It is an observation that should be apparent to everyone. However there is a strong possibility that it has not been apparent to you until now, and that this is an epiphany for you Mr W_anker.


Are you unable or unwilling to spell Wanker? It would seem so. Pretty humorous isn’t it?

Dennis

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Apr 10, 2020 20:17:13   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
soba1 wrote:
He already took care of Latinos with the dream act.
If time permits and I don’t forget I will provide documentation. Funding of the HBCUS was huge believe that


The same paper Trump signed that gave 85 million to historically black colleges gave 100 million to Latinos. Just thought you'd like to know. Latinos are not your enemy.

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Apr 10, 2020 20:20:48   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
soba1 wrote:
He already took care of Latinos with the dream act.
If time permits and I don’t forget I will provide documentation. Funding of the HBCUS was huge believe that


Obama funded them as well, even if he didn't before he did. Be more interested in what you get instead of worrying about whether it's more or less than someone else got.

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Apr 10, 2020 21:07:34   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
DaveO wrote:
Thanx to all you trumpettes! Per usual, you all prove that any who dare speak against trump is automatically an Obama lover and that seems to allow you to get that warm feeling. That warm feeling is nothing more than your mind pissing your pants.

You seem to think that you are the true Republicans, but in reality you are nothing more than scabs on the ass of society and an embarrassment to the party.

Enjoy your day as you bask in your stupidity by following your lying pied piper.
Thanx to all you trumpettes! Per usual, you all p... (show quote)


Not necessarily

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Apr 10, 2020 21:08:46   #
Jade Warrior Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Are you unable or unwilling to spell Wanker? It would seem so. Pretty humorous isn’t it?

Dennis


It depends on how admin views it. I'm sure you can see the humour in that.

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Apr 10, 2020 21:38:08   #
Jade Warrior Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Of course you do know, perception is reality, don’t you? I look at a mounts as unclimbable while others look upon it as a challenge. I am physically quite capable of making the climb but mentally the climb offers no incentive. Same mountain but a difference in goals.

My goal was to hunt and kill a trophy African Cape buffalo. Done that. You might be capable but have no interest.

We are all humans with different yet EQUAL perceptions.

Dennis


I was talking about absolute reality. You may have climbed a mountain. That does not mean you understand the totality of the mountain. You may have killed an African Cape Buffalo. That does not make you an authority on buffaloes.
Perception is not the same as reality.

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Apr 10, 2020 21:45:57   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Jade Warrior wrote:
I was talking about absolute reality. You may have climbed a mountain. That does not mean you understand the totality of the mountain. You may have killed an African Cape Buffalo. That does not make you an authority on buffaloes.
Perception is not the same as reality.


Some would say there actually is no reality... only perception.

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Apr 10, 2020 22:06:08   #
Jade Warrior Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Some would say there actually is no reality... only perception.


Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, something I have thought about since I read it in the seventies. Something I will read again

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Apr 11, 2020 04:05:30   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
thom w wrote:
The same paper Trump signed that gave 85 million to historically black colleges gave 100 million to Latinos. Just thought you'd like to know. Latinos are not your enemy.


Look my point is is that while Obama did for everyone else he did nothing for blacks. I’m not mad mad he is doing for other groups just as long as he does for blacks as well. A group the Dems have overlooked for the past 60 years

I have good reasons to vote for Trump the main thing is he puts his country and countrymen first

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Apr 11, 2020 05:29:38   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Jade Warrior wrote:
No it is a statement that you have no greater grasp of absolute truth than anyone else Mr W_nker. It is an observation that should be apparent to everyone. However there is a strong possibility that it has not been apparent to you until now, and that this is an epiphany for you Mr W_anker.


WTH is wrong with you?

There is no such thing as MY truth or YOUR truth, there is only THE truth ... and one of the biggest lies of all time is that the statement is not THE TRUTH.

Tyrants from the pharaohs to today have deceived the dumb masses with the concept of malleable truth, and malleable truth is a required precursor of DOUBLETHINK which is the ultimate tool tyrants use to make obedient vassals out of the citizenry.

You know this, and the evidence is that you cannot discuss the topic without name calling and, of course, lies.

You may be a willing agitprop tool of tyranny, or you may be a naive tool of tyranny who is more interested in what the state can give you while you remain oblivious to what it takes away ... but a willing tool you are.

I will appropriately quote Voltaire:

”It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere!”

But I will never stop trying.

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Apr 11, 2020 06:40:07   #
Jade Warrior Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
LWW wrote:
WTH is wrong with you?

There is no such thing as MY truth or YOUR truth, there is only THE truth ... and one of the biggest lies of all time is that the statement is not THE TRUTH.

Tyrants from the pharaohs to today have deceived the dumb masses with the concept of malleable truth, and malleable truth is a required precursor of DOUBLETHINK which is the ultimate tool tyrants use to make obedient vassals out of the citizenry.

You know this, and the evidence is that you cannot discuss the topic without name calling and, of course, lies.

You may be a willing agitprop tool of tyranny, or you may be a naive tool of tyranny who is more interested in what the state can give you while you remain oblivious to what it takes away ... but a willing tool you are.

I will appropriately quote Voltaire:

”It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere!”

But I will never stop trying.
WTH is wrong with you? br br There is no such thi... (show quote)




You seem to have a comprehension disability. I talked about absolute truth, and drew a distinction between perception and absolute truth, not 'your truth' or 'my truth'. Reading books doesn't seem to help you. On the contrary you seem to be frightfully muddled. May the tyranny and Doublespeak of Trump be with you

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Apr 11, 2020 07:21:04   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Jade Warrior wrote:
You seem to have a comprehension disability. I talked about absolute truth, and drew a distinction between perception and absolute truth, not 'your truth' or 'my truth'. Reading books doesn't seem to help you. On the contrary you seem to be frightfully muddled. May the tyranny and Doublespeak of Trump be with you


Weasel words.

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Apr 11, 2020 07:42:14   #
Jade Warrior Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
LWW wrote:
Weasel words.


That is your perception.

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Apr 11, 2020 08:07:35   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
soba1 wrote:
Look my point is is that while Obama did for everyone else he did nothing for blacks. I’m not mad mad he is doing for other groups just as long as he does for blacks as well. A group the Dems have overlooked for the past 60 years

I have good reasons to vote for Trump the main thing is he puts his country and countrymen first


Examples please. Blinders off would help, but you aren't going to do that. Trump did something because it expired on his watch.

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