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Apr 8, 2020 16:43:05   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
....Once you’re done and you close PS it saves the PS edited image in LR....


For anybody not sure about that procedure, the edited image would be available in the film strip along the bottom.

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Apr 8, 2020 16:43:29   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
R.G. wrote:
True. Another alternative might be to select all and then deselect the ones you don't want (if they were the minority).


Exactly!

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Apr 8, 2020 17:57:39   #
DaveJ Loc: NE Missouri
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
You just click “Edit in PS” and it opens PS with a copy of the image. Once you’re done and you close PS it saves the PS edited image in LR. No need to move stuff in and out.


I'm a beginner since December in Lightroom, and this is what I do. It is easy even for me! Same way with Topaz DeNoise, ect.

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Apr 8, 2020 21:18:43   #
FTn
 
I have waited to see if anyone else would bring up Lightroom's lack of tethering functionality. Compared to C1, LR just doesn't cut it. If you do any studio work or macro work tethering is a godsend. The ability to fine tune focus and control your camera from your desktop or laptop really does improve your workflow. All you can do in LR is see your image and trip the camera's shutter. If you could pass this on to Adobe it would be greatly appreciated.

- FTn

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Apr 8, 2020 21:48:34   #
sloscheider Loc: Minnesota
 
lsupremo wrote:
i'd like to have a "save button" so you can make changes and save it W/O printing or exporting

Thank god we DON'T have to do that.... LOL I absolutely love that I DON'T have to save, I just move from image to image, make the edits I want to make when I'm done with the batch, they get exported directly to Zenfolio or a disc for customers. All these other software packages, Open, Edit, Save, Close, then repeat for every single image. If you're lucky you want to make the same edits to all the images and you could build a macro but I still like the way LR works

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Apr 8, 2020 21:53:41   #
sloscheider Loc: Minnesota
 
FTn wrote:
I have waited to see if anyone else would bring up Lightroom's lack of tethering functionality. Compared to C1, LR just doesn't cut it. If you do any studio work or macro work tethering is a godsend. The ability to fine tune focus and control your camera from your desktop or laptop really does improve your workflow. All you can do in LR is see your image and trip the camera's shutter. If you could pass this on to Adobe it would be greatly appreciated.

- FTn

I use tethering with LightRoom.... I'll admit 4 years ago it was painfully slow compared to Capture 1 but they have increased the speed quite a bit. I absolutely agree Capture 1 is probably the best tool for tethered capture and without question better than LR but LR is "good enough" for what i'm doing

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Apr 9, 2020 04:58:59   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
DaveJ wrote:
I'm a beginner since December in Lightroom, and this is what I do. It is easy even for me! Same way with Topaz DeNoise, ect.


OK, it's simple once you're clear on the need to edit a COPY, with or without Lr adjustments. But it still means waiting for the full Photoshop to load up (a minor inconvenience but still a pause in the workflow).

While we're on the subject of editing outside of Lightroom using plug-ins, it seems to me that what we're all hoping for is a photo editor that doesn't need plug-ins because it does everything that we want it to do and does it all well. Surely by now the software designers know how to design a good editor that manipulates luminosity, contrast and colour to our liking (i.e. it would be simple and effective) and does a good job of sharpening and denoise, even with difficult images. Any requirements beyond that would fall into the category of creative editing, which would indicate that another type of image editor was needed. In fact even those needs could be met at least in part by including presets, filters and effects of various sorts.

It seems to me that if there are tried and tested methods of using plug-ins, the same sort of procedures could be used within the main editor to exit from and return to the non-destructive environment. In other words any functionality that plug-ins can provide could be included within Lr.

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Apr 9, 2020 05:22:46   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
FTn wrote:
I have waited to see if anyone else would bring up Lightroom's lack of tethering functionality.....

If you could pass this on to Adobe it would be greatly appreciated....


I think it's safe to assume that Adobe are well aware of what their competitors are doing. It all comes down to what Adobe think is worth investing resources in. In some cases that will involve acquiring and developing the necessary expertise from scratch and then (hopefully) refining the resulting tools to produce an optimised photo editor that we all want and enjoy using*.

*OK, that's my wish list - what's yours? .

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Apr 9, 2020 05:25:39   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
sloscheider wrote:
I absolutely love that I DON'T have to save........ I still like the way LR works


Indeed. There are many ways that Adobe have got it right and have been exemplary.

When that's the case there's no shame in other manufacturers following the good example, and we all benefit when they do.

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Apr 9, 2020 16:54:45   #
Sergey
 
It would bee nice if you could put your library on the shared drive (for example, NAS). LR uses SQLite database which is single user database so they don't let you place the library on the shared drive. I interchangeably us desktop and laptop and have to import new pictures that I processed on the laptop as a catalog and then import it on the desktop. Having the library on the network drive would eliminate that. Of course it'd complicate things like dealing with images opened on multiple client machines.

Another wish would be to be able to open multiple libraries at the same time. Now it seems you hav to close one library to open another. I wish I could have two open and compare them.

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Apr 9, 2020 21:33:23   #
FTn
 
R.G. wrote:
I think it's safe to assume that Adobe are well aware of what their competitors are doing. It all comes down to what Adobe think is worth investing resources in. In some cases that will involve acquiring and developing the necessary expertise from scratch and then (hopefully) refining the resulting tools to produce an optimised photo editor that we all want and enjoy using*.

*OK, that's my wish list - what's yours? .
I think it's safe to assume that Adobe are well aw... (show quote)


OK, I'm going to take the high road here and go back to the studio.

- FTn

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Apr 9, 2020 21:56:01   #
Photomac Loc: The Dalles, Or
 
There are so many ways to deal with all those photos. I started out using the HD on the computer, but soon out grew that, move to a portable drive and gradually got large ones. Having a portable drive with the library on it enabled me to use it on both my laptop and I-mac making sure it was plugged in first so as to not start too many catalogs. The problem is in travel using a small 500G drive and then moving them over to the Library #4 now and then of course having two time machine back ups at all times. My main problem with LR over the years is to just loose a whole shoot. My mentor can't explain it, I can't because they are there and months later or a year later they are just gone. Good thing for back ups. Have any of you had a issue with this???

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Apr 9, 2020 23:32:11   #
pep9454
 

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Apr 9, 2020 23:35:32   #
pep9454
 
kvanhook wrote:
I would like to edit one photo without going into the catalog procedure. Sometimes you just want a quick look at one image.


That's the whole point of LR. The catalog for organizing and keeping track of all of what goes along with that! If you want a 'quick' look, use Adobe Bridge... BUT, you can't do a 'quick look' if you have no idea where that file is, therefore, the purpose of LR's catalog...

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Apr 9, 2020 23:52:40   #
pep9454
 
There are many books, YouTube videos and many great professional people that teach and use LR. The only way to know/understand what you're talking about is to learn it. I've used it for the 10yrs it's been around. I've followed it, embraced it and now I only go into PS when I need layers and difficult selections to be made. People always talk about how to 'improve' LR, but they don't have a clue how to use it properly...

Martin Evening has these phenomenal books on PS and LR and has been writing these for years. I've used PS for 30 yrs and LR since it's inception. Martin's books are my reference and bible for the things I don't know and/or didn't know existed. I don't read them from front to back, as they're all around 700pgs. BUT, I reference them ALL the time. He's way above my comprehension level, but answers almost any question you'll ever have about LR or PS.

This book is as technical as it gets AND is also for beginners. I know, it's $60, but if you want to have a complete reference book to help you learn and answer questions, the table of contents and/or the index will steer you in the right direction.

https://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Photoshop-Lightroom-Classic-Book-dp-0134508106/dp/0134508106/ref=mt_paperback?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=1586490034

Also, one of the true masters in PS and LR is a 23yr. old Indian young man named Unmesh Dinda. I found hime about 6 months ago and I subscribe to his YouTube channel, I mark videos to watch when I don't have the time and I anxiously look forward to his weekly videos. This guy started on PS when he was EIGHT yrs old. He probably collectively know more than all who subscribe to UHH wrapped into one! He's a terrific teacher and I learn more from him than almost any other resource and I've been using PS professionally since about 5 yrs before he was even born.

Please do yourselves a favor and look the book up and subscribe to Unmesh's YouTube site. You might never have to post any more questions about PS or LR here! :-)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMrvLMUITAImCHMOhX88PYQ

Hope this helps everyone to get a better grasp of LR and PS...

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