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Apr 7, 2020 15:09:04   #
dean100 Loc: New-Biden did steal 500,000+ votes in OH
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Do we really need a Socialist to buy toilet paper for hospitals? Check out Socialist countries. No toilet paper around to be had.

States have leaders too. We call them Governors. Let them order toilet paper. My wife ordered some from Walmart and it was delivered. If she can do it surely we don't need the federal government to order things like that.

Dennis



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Apr 7, 2020 15:10:24   #
dean100 Loc: New-Biden did steal 500,000+ votes in OH
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Sorry but he isn't missing the point. Some people just have to be told what and when do things. They have to be led around by the nose for even the simplest tasks.

To my way of thinking this is still America. Americans are plenty capable of doing things on our own when necessary. We don't need no stinkin government telling us how to buy toilet paper or when.

Dennis



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Apr 7, 2020 15:10:31   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Longshadow wrote:
Then all stockpiles have to be maintained. Seals dry out as well as any lubrication.
Would you 100% trust a 25 year old unused piece of live saving equipment?


You mean none of our past leaders thought of that. I'm not saying there have been no mistakes. But what we are seeing now is that those mistakes started a generation ago. So we will get through this, and in twenty five years if this happens again we will be in the same positions.

One thing I know about most Americans, me included, we have short memories once the good times return.

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Apr 7, 2020 15:16:01   #
dean100 Loc: New-Biden did steal 500,000+ votes in OH
 
[quote=AirWalter]Played golf and visited Hawaii, and sent his wife and daughters to Africa

And smoked a few cigarettes, and helped Eric Holder get the 1500 assault rifles to the cartels

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Apr 7, 2020 15:53:31   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Someone who understands what the Federal Government means.


Wrong. This is the UNITED States Of America.

If a foreign country landed troops on the shores of Alaska and Washington and Oregon, would you say, "Well, that's their problem. Nothing going on in my state, so let them handle it."? We have just such an invader in the form of a novel virus.

We're not talking about TP. We're talking about critical medical supplies required beyond any normal state of affairs.

Stan

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Apr 7, 2020 16:24:09   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
You make a point. Trump does talk about the “tremendous” job his team , and selected others, are doing too.
Not really what anybody wants to hear at a time when people continue to die, and he doesn’t know what to do about it.


You don't want to announce that the people who are putting their lives on the line are not doing such a great job. That would encourage them to go to work the next day.

I guess the next election we need to vote for a genie who only has to snap their fingers.

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Apr 7, 2020 17:06:15   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
bkyser wrote:
It wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for Yahoos running out and buying up everything they can find. Just like toilet paper, there was no shortage, it was caused by people wanting to worry about themselves, and not worried about their neighbors.

I am a supply chain manager for the largest Hospital network in Indiana. It's been a nightmare trying to have enough PPE for just day to day use for our stock. There isn't even enough to do our normal allocations. It's not just average people, state governments are buying everything up creating a stockpile for their state, even if the hospitals in their state are hurting. It makes no sense.

I also had 40 respirators on order that were due in before the Covid-19 even broke, but there were delays in delivery. Once they were ready to ship, they were bought out from under us by a state that thought their residents were more important than our residents. This should be illegal... but it depends on who bullies who, and who throws around more money.

OK off my soapbox.
It wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for Yahoos r... (show quote)



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Apr 7, 2020 19:56:56   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
AirWalter wrote:
Yep, blame it on Trump.


What would Hillary or Obummer have done. You people or sick.

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Apr 7, 2020 20:07:26   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Sunrisepano wrote:
I disagree. With hoarding, 499 people will not get any jam while one person has 12 times as much as he/she/it (must be politically correct) needs.


You could have just said "they" if you weren't trying to impress us with how judgmental you are.

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Apr 8, 2020 10:36:32   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Leefl wrote:
Hopefully, you never get the virus. But, if you do, and you have a hard time finding a way to get tested, you will understand. Then when you become hospitalized (God forbid), and the hospital does not have an ICU bed because one is not available, or there's no ventilator to keep you alive, you may come to regret your blind loyalty to Mr. Trump. How about listening to how he treats the press and his experts, claiming that he knows more than they do. His arrogance is astounding.


Like I said...... The only danger to America is the fascist progressive movement of <69 IQ Clubber minds like yourself.

I will add that your crowd cannot read and comprehend very well, either.

I have posted many times, going back to pre-election, that Trump was not my horse and I didn’t support him. However he has done a very good job (unlike the last two).

As for the virus, beds, ventilators, etc., I would suggest the <69 IQ crowd like yourself learn to research and read and understand our system of government better. If you did you would discover that there are zero shortages in those areas that are not or have not been addressed. You would also find that the “dire needs” described on various CNN shows were not needs at all but were hoarding “wants” based on projections of faulty models in different states,

We are a federalist system....this means Governors set the mandates, localities carry them out, and the fed acts as a backstop to ASSIST when needed. This all pretty clear for those that can read.

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Apr 8, 2020 10:38:21   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Leefl wrote:
And when one of them is asked a direct question, he steps in front and refuses to allow the expert to answer.


Never happened except in your fantasy world of TDS, liar.

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Apr 8, 2020 10:40:30   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Leefl wrote:
It's a real hoot calling out you guys and watching you struggle to defend the indefensible. The fact is, he shouldn't even be at those everything since he has nothing useful to offer misleading information and insults to everyone who doesn't kiss his behind. This is not a president to be proud of and you guys who think he is so wonderful need to open your eyes. I'm done here.


Misleading....like the hydroxycloroquine?????

Or perhaps when he said NY didn’t need 40,000 ventilators????

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Apr 8, 2020 10:41:35   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
StanMac wrote:
Wrong. This is the UNITED States Of America.

If a foreign country landed troops on the shores of Alaska and Washington and Oregon, would you say, "Well, that's their problem. Nothing going on in my state, so let them handle it."? We have just such an invader in the form of a novel virus.

We're not talking about TP. We're talking about critical medical supplies required beyond any normal state of affairs.

Stan


Perhaps you need a primer on how it all works?

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Apr 8, 2020 11:51:33   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Like I said...... The only danger to America is the fascist progressive movement of <69 IQ Clubber minds like yourself.

I will add that your crowd cannot read and comprehend very well, either.

I have posted many times, going back to pre-election, that Trump was not my horse and I didn’t support him. However he has done a very good job (unlike the last two).

As for the virus, beds, ventilators, etc., I would suggest the <69 IQ crowd like yourself learn to research and read and understand our system of government better. If you did you would discover that there are zero shortages in those areas that are not or have not been addressed. You would also find that the “dire needs” described on various CNN shows were not needs at all but were hoarding “wants” based on projections of faulty models in different states,

We are a federalist system....this means Governors set the mandates, localities carry them out, and the fed acts as a backstop to ASSIST when needed. This all pretty clear for those that can read.
Like I said...... The only danger to America is th... (show quote)

Put a little harshly but spot on. TDS is an unfortunate byproduct of relying on cable news to reinforce your bias. A feeding frenzy. On the positive side we aren’t having to hear about the President being a Russian agent or “financial self serving” fantasies or colluding with the Russians or Ukraine. No more caterwauling about mishandling the border issue by following the law. They’ve stopped bitching about taking troops out of the Middle East too. The <69’s as you call them have been able, by pretzel logic, to tie xenophobia and racism into the current international health crisis started in and exacerbated by China. It took some work but they rose to the occasion and did it. Yesterday the well prepared STATE of Oregon sent ventilators to the ill prepared STATE of New York. Isn’t it interesting to see how the foreign policy experts of a month ago have morphed into epidemiologists and pharmacists. Haters just gotta hate.

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Apr 8, 2020 12:41:34   #
trainspotter Loc: Oregon
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Maybe if we had some leadership at a national level on this...


LOOK everybody.....a NEW left voice....HOPE your kopy-n-paste skills are honed..(frank, kraken,and a handful of others in the ATTIC) will run you out IF their not. We like um...cause their easy to "scrool past"....One liners like yours...WILL be read...and appropriate responses returned......WELCOME to the attic....CHEERS! stay safe and well.

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