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Apr 6, 2020 14:07:38   #
Photographer Jim Loc: Rio Vista, CA
 
Some people take their cameras and snap off some pictures as an adjunct activity while they are engaged in their primary activity of travel, vacationing, or enjoying an outing. The photography is secondary. It’s simply something they do along the way. I’d describe these people as “photographers” in the loosest of terms.

Photographers, are those who intentionally engage in photography as a primary goal. They’re not taking photos while they travel; they travel in order to take photos. Making images is the goal in and of itself.

Beyond that, distinctions such as “true photographers”, especially when based on techniques or formats seem both unnecessary and artificial, and really serves little purpose.

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Apr 6, 2020 14:16:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Photographer Jim wrote:
Some people take their cameras and snap off some pictures as an adjunct activity while they are engaged in their primary activity of travel, vacationing, or enjoying an outing. The photography is secondary. It’s simply something they do along the way. I’d describe these people as “photographers” in the loosest of terms.

Photographers, are those who intentionally engage in photography as a primary goal. They’re not taking photos while they travel; they travel in order to take photos. Making images is the goal in and of itself.

Beyond that, distinctions such as “true photographers”, especially when based on techniques or formats seem both unnecessary and artificial, and really serves little purpose.
Some people take their cameras and snap off some p... (show quote)


Y'all just keep adding different adjectives in front of the word photographer...
but each phrase contains the word photographer.
Just different types and sub-types, but they're all photographers.

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Apr 6, 2020 14:25:19   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Longshadow wrote:
Y'all just keep adding different adjectives in front of the word photographer...
but each phrase contains the word photographer.
Just different types and sub-types, but they're all photographers.



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Apr 6, 2020 14:39:47   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
New photographer;
long-time photographer;
portrait photographer;
great portrait photographer;
green photographer;
poor photographer;
excellent photographer;
weekend photographer;
landscape photographer;
excellent landscape photographer;
lousy photographer;
macro photographer;
well-know photographer;
unknown photographer;

Notice that they are all photographers?

Real (true) photographers use a camera!

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Apr 6, 2020 14:48:23   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera.

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Apr 6, 2020 14:51:22   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera.


Yea, if he was that good!

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Apr 6, 2020 15:06:41   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Longshadow wrote:
Y'all just keep adding different adjectives in front of the word photographer...
but each phrase contains the word photographer.
Just different types and sub-types, but they're all photographers.


I think it's fine for people to choose their own adjectives to describe what kind of photographer they are. I just don't like people who presume to define for others who are the "true" photographers based on questionable criteria.

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Apr 6, 2020 15:12:16   #
BebuLamar
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera.


He did a good number of straight out of the camera but I think he didn't use those. He shot a lot of Polaroid Positive Negative film and of course those are straight out of the camera but I think he was more interested in the negative he got out of those (which he would later manipulate during his printing phase in the darkroom) rather than the positive print he got.

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Apr 6, 2020 15:16:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I think it's fine for people to choose their own adjectives to describe what kind of photographer they are. I just don't like people who presume to define for others who are the "true" photographers based on questionable criteria.

Yes, what kind of photographer they are is fine.

in addition to don't like:
- people thinking that only the use of their adjectives is correct;
- people putting others down because they don't meet their criteria of a photographer;
- people thinking that some who use a camera are not photographers.

Brings to mind thoughts of the definition of a true person...

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Apr 6, 2020 15:16:35   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If you try your best and fail, next time use PhotoShop.

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Apr 6, 2020 15:31:26   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
locustthorn wrote:
Seems like now days almost anyone with the Photo Shop and all the software on line consider themselves a Photographer. Seems like with all this software anyone with a little computer knowledge can doctor up a print. So many go out claiming to be Wedding and event Photographers then go into a software and make things look good. Would anyone without this software consider themselves a true Photographer? What did you do before all this software?


You appear to be confusing the difference between a photographer and a professional photographer. A photographer is someone who takes photographs with a camera. A professional photographer is someone who earns their primary income taking photographs with a camera. I am a photographer. I have done many paid photography jobs over the years including weddings and events but, photography has never been my primary source of income so, I am not, nor have I ever been a professional photographer.
As far as the use of post processing software, what difference does that make?! You need to process film in analog photography!

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Apr 6, 2020 15:40:05   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
locustthorn wrote:
Seems like now days almost anyone with the Photo Shop and all the software on line consider themselves a Photographer. Seems like with all this software anyone with a little computer knowledge can doctor up a print. So many go out claiming to be Wedding and event Photographers then go into a software and make things look good. Would anyone without this software consider themselves a true Photographer? What did you do before all this software?


It's obvious that you lack knowledge on the history of photography or the history of some our best known photographers in history. Questions like these only show the ignorance of the person who is posting them. Read, study, learn and you might begin to actually understand photography.

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Apr 6, 2020 15:43:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
You appear to be confusing the difference between a photographer and a professional photographer. A photographer is someone who takes photographs with a camera. A professional photographer is someone who earns their primary income taking photographs with a camera. I am a photographer. I have done many paid photography jobs over the years including weddings and events but, photography has never been my primary source of income so, I am not, nor have I ever been a professional photographer.
As far as the use of post processing software, what difference does that make?! You need to process film in analog photography!
You appear to be confusing the difference between ... (show quote)


Brings up the question: What's a professional post processor? Not an amateur post processor.
How long does one have to be post processing to be considered a professional post processor?

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Apr 6, 2020 16:00:06   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
When I learned photography, we walked up hill both ways in the snow and said, 'thank you, can I have another.'

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Apr 6, 2020 16:04:28   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
When I learned photography, we walked up hill both ways in the snow and said, 'thank you, can I have another.'


ANOTHER??? You want another? MORE?

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