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Sep 26, 2012 21:07:37   #
RocketScientist Loc: Littleton, Colorado
 
Chinaman wrote:
Your camera meter is set to meter an 'average' scene which has a mixture of brightness and darkness which equates to 18% grey. If your scene is not average, the meter can be fooled and give you under or over exposure. In such a scenario, you simply put the grey card in the same light as on the subject and meter the card. Then adjust your aperture and shutter speed to match the reading. You will have to be in manual mode to do that and for the settings not to change. Or in auto mode that can lock that meter reading. Shoot and check your image or histogram that the bright and dark areas are within the graph. If not, adjust your settings to suit or edit in a photoeditor later.
Your camera meter is set to meter an 'average' sce... (show quote)


I YouTubed it and found a video showing what you're explaining. I thought it was pretty cool idea, but didn't have a grey card.

I fired up my favorite word processor and formatted the page to have a gray background. I couldn't do 18%, so I settled for the 20% gray and printed a page. B&W LaserJets do gray real well.

I had the Canon T1i dial on P and took a couple shots. I made use of AE Lock rather than putting it in M. I was pleasantly surprised with the results.

Again I learn something here. Maybe someday I'll learn to keep my shadow out of the pic.

How P wanted it with out Gray Card
How P wanted it with out Gray Card...

Gray Card and AE Lock
Gray Card and AE Lock...

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Sep 26, 2012 21:30:58   #
Chinaman Loc: Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
 
RocketScientist wrote:
Chinaman wrote:
Your camera meter is set to meter an 'average' scene which has a mixture of brightness and darkness which equates to 18% grey. If your scene is not average, the meter can be fooled and give you under or over exposure. In such a scenario, you simply put the grey card in the same light as on the subject and meter the card. Then adjust your aperture and shutter speed to match the reading. You will have to be in manual mode to do that and for the settings not to change. Or in auto mode that can lock that meter reading. Shoot and check your image or histogram that the bright and dark areas are within the graph. If not, adjust your settings to suit or edit in a photoeditor later.
Your camera meter is set to meter an 'average' sce... (show quote)


I YouTubed it and found a video showing what you're explaining. I thought it was pretty cool idea, but didn't have a grey card.

I fired up my favorite word processor and formatted the page to have a gray background. I couldn't do 18%, so I settled for the 20% gray and printed a page. B&W LaserJets do gray real well.

I had the Canon T1i dial on P and took a couple shots. I made use of AE Lock rather than putting it in M. I was pleasantly surprised with the results.

Again I learn something here. Maybe someday I'll learn to keep my shadow out of the pic.
quote=Chinaman Your camera meter is set to meter ... (show quote)


Wow, rocketScientist, you lived up to your name there. A great demonstration of the use of the grey card. We spell it g-r-E-y in the old English colonies that didn't rebel.

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Sep 27, 2012 09:10:22   #
cameracrazy Loc: Brewton, Al
 
thanks that really made a big differance

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Sep 27, 2012 09:17:46   #
photonynikon Loc: upstate New York
 
you guys are getting it wrong-18% gray has nothing to do with white balance- one is AMOUNT of like, the other is it's COLOR spectrum. Use the 18% to determine your exposure-i.e.-place the card on a pile of coal, and meter for your f-stop....then determine if the pile of coal is lit with sunlight or tungsten, or flourescent---2 different factors to determine that the Film guys had to learn when crossing over to the digital realm

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Sep 27, 2012 21:58:28   #
RocketScientist Loc: Littleton, Colorado
 
photonynikon wrote:
you guys are getting it wrong-18% gray has nothing to do with white balance- one is AMOUNT of like, the other is it's COLOR spectrum. Use the 18% to determine your exposure-i.e.-place the card on a pile of coal, and meter for your f-stop....then determine if the pile of coal is lit with sunlight or tungsten, or flourescent---2 different factors to determine that the Film guys had to learn when crossing over to the digital realm


In my example, I used my DIY grey card for exposure setting. You may have noticed a custom WB if you looked at the EXIF info on those shots. For that I had the white side of the paper showing, took a shot of all white paper and went into the set custom WB part of the menus. There I chose that picture as my white source. This was before I took the shots.

A Canon DSLR typically wants to take a picture of white, go to the WB menu and select that as the white source, then you need to select the Custom WB on the quick select. My canon P&S cameras use a different procedure, Nikon is probably different as well.

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Sep 27, 2012 22:14:14   #
RocketScientist Loc: Littleton, Colorado
 
Chinaman wrote:

... We spell it g-r-E-y in the old English colonies that didn't rebel.


I think I spelled it right this time. :roll: <Bazinga!>

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