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Sep 27, 2012 01:17:50   #
rts2568
 
jrob349 wrote:
Janem wrote:
Hi, I have only ask a question once, but I read your form often. Here is my new question. My grandson has a Brazilian Rainbow Boa and it's body has an iridescent film to it that has a rainbow glow. It sounds like it could be an awesome picture, but I have no idea how to get that iridescent color to show up. I have a Canon EOS T3i and a Canon Speedlite 430EX. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks
Jane


Iridescence is caused by interference patterns in different colors of reflected light. You'll have to experiment. Find out the light source direction when the iridescence is maximum. A circular polarizer may enhance or totally kill the iridescence so that's another experiment. If I remember correctly the iridescence of snake scales is caused by a thin film effect. In butterflies, it's caused by the scales acting as a diffraction grating.
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To: jrob349

Fron rts2568

As in Birds feathers etc. Maybe a clear glass or plastic prism might prove to be a fun play thing for enhancing a photographers experience of light, then gather a few lost feathers, expoliasted skin, some leaves & petals and put them at the back light positions, varied of course and even take a few shots of those wonderful displays of the very common, but very mysterious substance/wave of light from the other side of the prism. I'm sure there are some shots out there from such a self learning effort? Now here's one for the experts in Optics and Physics, in photography as well of course. Tell me about the path of these colour gems. both taken with the widest I had at the time, 28mm (35mm equivalent) or, 6mm to the 1/1.7th inch sensor users.

rts2568

The South side
The South side...

The North side
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Sep 27, 2012 05:49:31   #
deej
 
gessman wrote:
deej wrote:
I posted earlier and suggested a polorizer which some denied. First a polorizer can enhance or remove glare dependent on the rotation it is spun for items such as rainbows. Rainbows appear to always be in the East due to the sun having to be on the other side of the moisture which creates them hence the sun rise east and sets west but rainbows can be seen almost any segment of the sky, not exclusive to the East. Correct me if I am wrong but this is what my research states.


Being a big boy, so to speak, I will say that I stand corrected and offer you an apology. I also did some research and do indeed find that, although apparently very much more rarely, we do get rainbows in the west with rain in the west at shortly after sunrise, but, something that does not occur here where I am butted up against the Rockies. I guess I've just been here in Colorado too long. We rarely ever get rain in the morning here in our semi-arid climate and when we do, the sun isn't usually shining. Even if those conditions are present, I think the mountains would interfere with the development of a rainbow.

Due to heat buildup over the Divide in the mornings, clouds release and move out over the flat lands in early afternoon which is when we get our rains with the sun in the west completing the conditions that are necessary for rainbow formation. Our worst moisture ladden weather comes to us from the east, including the majority of the snow we get along the front range of the mountains. A low pressure cell sits up down about Albuqurque forming a counter clockwise flow that brings us moisture from the east and then the afternoon buildup I described above often follows that so our moisture is mostly always in the east. I suppose I allowed that to condition my thinking.

As for the polarizer, I watched the youtube and read the comments below but am not convinced at this point. It does not, in my mind, make much sense. Next time I get a chance which is pretty often, I will put that to a test and start a thread with the results.
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No problem, my experience using polorizers have proven the research as valid but you know just because the Internet states it don't always make it right. The great thing is that someone with more knowledge or experience can always help us along and set us straight and also show us how!
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Sep 27, 2012 06:12:25   #
Adorius Loc: New Zealand
 
stevenkl wrote:
Adorius wrote:
Sorry I can't help either. I had a deadly snake in my kitchen last summer and the last thing on my mind was stepping over it to get my camera!!!!


Wow, I have heard there very poisonous snakes in Australia,but you have them as well. I wanted to visit both places before I check out. My freinds at church are from Australia and one lived in New Zealand. Auckland? Barry and Marie McGuire.


No snakes in New Zealand. The deadly snake in the kitchen was in Sydney! Sorry forgot to mention that.
:shock:

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Sep 27, 2012 06:36:43   #
Adorius Loc: New Zealand
 
gessman wrote:
Adorius wrote:
gessman wrote:
Adorius wrote:
gessman wrote:
Adorius wrote:
singleviking wrote:
Adorius wrote:
Who is they :?: I understand it to mean smoking a cigarette :roll:
What meaning do you take from the word fag :?: :)


You're showing your youth. Way back they used to call GAY men "FAGS" in many parts of the world, but I guess that expression has gone the way of the DODO bird.


My youth is long gone it's just that to me the word is faggot rather than fag.

:wink:


We don't have time to say 'faggot' here in the U. S. any longer so... :-)
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Ha ha, not a matter of time just probably shortened to fag where as the slang word fag means a cigarette in some countries. I think it's like fanny, in American it means backside and in English it means a woman's private parts. Same word, different usage!

:lol: :?
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Right you are. I had the pleasure of spending three years in England many years ago courtesy of the USAF and grew to appreciate the nuances in the versions of English, of course, yielding to the originators of the language when appropriate and reverting to the filthy gutter slang of the uncultured colonies when convenient. The nuances are most interesting and amusing in part. I think I generally felt much more nurtured by the British idea of the word 'fanny' than to whatever alternative might be available. I might still. :shock:
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Makes me wonder how these words change meaning. In New Zealand and Australia we seem to use the same word meangs as the British apart from the ones that are unique to NZ and Au such as the word skite meaning to bragg!

:roll:
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Well, that's all quite simple really, if I may....but first, as a slightly interesting sidebar, while I'm not partial to a lot of bragging myself, now that you mention it, I've got a sign on my wall right above my monitor that an old friend gave me because of my overabiding modesty that says, "Him who can bragg without lying, let him bragg." He seemed to think I needed 'punching up' some.

Back to the changes to which you allude, I think here in the U. S. we have probably changed the language more than perhaps you folks in N.Z. and Aus have from what I think I know and from what you say. We 'hospitalize' people while back in Britain they 'put them in hospital.' We saved a few valuable letters on that, no doubt, just as an example of how we have whittled away at it and made it better. Perhaps it would help you to understand a little better if you were to realize that you apparently have failed to get the word that the United States is the greatest country of all time in the whole wide world and we know how to make everything better than everyone else so it's only fitting that we change the several thousand year old language that has only withstood the test of time and make it better, don't you think. Why, even our esteemed President, several of them in fact, on several occasions, have been noted as saying so on the worldwide stage, beamed by sattelite so the whole rest of the world can be insulted simultaneously in 'real time.' We even have people sitting on the sidewalks playing a guitar and rattling tin cups begging for change who say that as well. It must be true.
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What you say about language is interesting because although you change it in the US we come to know about through television and movies. We may not use the word flashlight but we understand it whereas you are not likely to know the meaning of the word skite unless you are talking to an NZer or are in NZ.

Dwelling on the word skite I recall how it went in the playground when I was at primary school. If one child was skiting the other children would chant - "Skite skite skite your pants are too tight, turn them round the other way and then they'll be right". I wonder if that still goes on in playgrounds!

I like the saying over your monitor.

In NZ as in the UK your cookie is our biscuit. I remember a long time ago some American Mormon missionaries in a shop asking for bikkies. Some cheeky retard had told the innocent Americans the word was bikkies when in fact that is toddlers' talkl!

As for hospitalized and put in hospital, I would say it the British way but would not think anything wrong with the US way.

If you want to see how far our language has come or degraded have a look at the old English of a King James Bible or for that matter Shakespeare that hasn't been modernised.

:wink:

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Sep 27, 2012 07:53:45   #
Pulseight Loc: Charlevile, Au
 
Janem wrote:
Hi, I have only ask a question once, but I read your form often. Here is my new question. My grandson has a Brazilian Rainbow Boa and it's body has an iridescent film to it that has a rainbow glow. It sounds like it could be an awesome picture, but I have no idea how to get that iridescent color to show up. I have a Canon EOS T3i and a Canon Speedlite 430EX. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks
Jane


Hi Jane, I'm unfamiliar with the Brazilian Rainbow Boa, but can tell you plenty about Taipans, Eastern Browns, King Browns, Red Belly Blacks, Fierce, Death Adders, Mulgas and a few more of our most venomous snakes in Outback Australia. Fortunately, few deaths from snake bites occur from these snakes, because except for the Death Adder, the others are pretty shy, and will escape before they're ever seen.
A few things we need to know. Is the snake a pet? It's over-all length and weight? Most boa's are reasonably easy to train. As I said, mostly they're very shy, but boa's can make good pets.
If this snake is in fact a pet, and not too large to handle, get your snake outside, and preferably in a good mood. The better it's mood, the brighter the iridescence will will show. (Sometimes it's the opposite) Your flash will only wash-out the colors. They're best photographed in natural light. Still want to shoot it? Post a pic. :thumbup: :D

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Sep 27, 2012 07:55:56   #
Pulseight Loc: Charlevile, Au
 
Robert Graybeal wrote:
How to get good pic's of a snake?

First: nail its head to the ground
Second: wait for it to stop moving


Five Thumbs-up Robert, but you're missing all the fun :-)

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Sep 27, 2012 07:58:08   #
Pulseight Loc: Charlevile, Au
 
Goldwinger wrote:
Outside in the grass with the sun reflecting , Boa's are normally docile so you should have no problem .


Pretty much Spot On mate. :thumbup:

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Sep 27, 2012 07:59:38   #
Pulseight Loc: Charlevile, Au
 
Janem wrote:
What is a daylight torch, a flashlight? I could go to a dark room and see what I get? Love your pictures, I'll have to try it with some of my flowers. Flower pictures are my favorite, they don't mind if I take too long and most of the time the hold still. :)


They don't answer back either :-) :-)

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Sep 27, 2012 08:04:43   #
Pulseight Loc: Charlevile, Au
 
Adorius wrote:
Torches usually give off a yellow colour but the day light torch is kind of blue and usually has 3 or more bulbs and also has 3 batteries or four for larger ones. They last longer than ordinary torches. I agree taking the photos in natural sunlight at the right angle would be your best bet.


WE call 'em LED lights, but I've noticed the West Islanders do have to be different :lol:

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Sep 27, 2012 08:07:52   #
Pulseight Loc: Charlevile, Au
 
Janem wrote:
Ok, I have one of those and didn't know it! Ha! So, if we don't go outside we will be going to a dark room and use a day light torch/flash light. Just seen that your from New Zealand, I'm in the USA, love how the meanings of words are different in different countries.
Thanks so much for your help! I'll post some pic's next week and show you what we came up with.


Tripod, open aperture and Bounce the flash if you're shooting indoors. Direct light will still diffuse the iridescence.

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Sep 27, 2012 08:13:07   #
Adorius Loc: New Zealand
 
Pulseight wrote:
Adorius wrote:
Torches usually give off a yellow colour but the day light torch is kind of blue and usually has 3 or more bulbs and also has 3 batteries or four for larger ones. They last longer than ordinary torches. I agree taking the photos in natural sunlight at the right angle would be your best bet.


WE call 'em LED lights, but I've noticed the West Islanders do have to be different :lol:


Thanks Pulseight. I used the term blue light because the term LED didn't come to me at the time of writing. I have a variety of LED lights and some of them are LED torches, others you can hang or stick on the wall.

:-)

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Sep 27, 2012 08:17:52   #
Pulseight Loc: Charlevile, Au
 
deej wrote:
Janem wrote:
Thank you so much for your time and information. I will look into the HDR program here on UHH and see how I can put it to use with my snake pictures and others. So many fun things to do with digital photography!


Possibly try a polorizer which might enhance the rainbow effect???


You'd have to experiment with a polarizer. They are a funny filter to operate. I've seen on here that they can remove reflections, and been shown it, but I've used it on rivers to capture tree reflections and haven't missed with one. On the other hand, being a dark filter they need a greater exposure than a normal lens.

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Sep 27, 2012 08:19:51   #
Pulseight Loc: Charlevile, Au
 
Adorius wrote:
Oh yes, we are still holding the torch for the British. You call it a flash light. Anyway, go for it. I'm looking forward to seeing the snake photos.




:lol: Quite punny my dear. Bet you didn't mean it, did you :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 27, 2012 08:22:35   #
Pulseight Loc: Charlevile, Au
 
Adorius wrote:
Pulseight wrote:
Adorius wrote:
Torches usually give off a yellow colour but the day light torch is kind of blue and usually has 3 or more bulbs and also has 3 batteries or four for larger ones. They last longer than ordinary torches. I agree taking the photos in natural sunlight at the right angle would be your best bet.


WE call 'em LED lights, but I've noticed the West Islanders do have to be different :lol:


Thanks Pulseight. I used the term blue light because the term LED didn't come to me at the time of writing. I have a variety of LED lights and some of them are LED torches, others you can hang or stick on the wall.

:-)
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;-) It's all good Adorius, one Silver Fern to another :-)

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Sep 27, 2012 08:23:53   #
Adorius Loc: New Zealand
 
Pulseight wrote:
Adorius wrote:
Oh yes, we are still holding the torch for the British. You call it a flash light. Anyway, go for it. I'm looking forward to seeing the snake photos.




:lol: Quite punny my dear. Bet you didn't mean it, did you :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


I was wondering when somebody might notice. My father was English so I can hold half a torch.

:lol:

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