Mirrorless point and shoot?
Mar 22, 2020 16:00:05 #
kay55
Loc: NE Ohio
Tomfl101 wrote:
The Canon G9 is excellent. Super compact shirt pocket size with a nice zoom.
Thanks, I will check it out
Mar 22, 2020 16:02:01 #
kay55
Loc: NE Ohio
terpentijn wrote:
The best you can get right now is the Fuji X-100V.
Thanks, I will check it out
Mar 22, 2020 16:03:00 #
kay55
Loc: NE Ohio
PHRubin wrote:
I have the DMC-ZS100 and am very happy with it.
Thanks for the endorsement
Mar 22, 2020 16:12:41 #
Bridge cameras are a cross between pocket cameras and (D)SLRs
My wife's Sony S-60 is a pocket camera (fits in shirt pocket), My Sony H-1 is a bridge camera (does not fit in shirt pocket, but smaller than a DSLR.
My wife's Sony S-60 is a pocket camera (fits in shirt pocket), My Sony H-1 is a bridge camera (does not fit in shirt pocket, but smaller than a DSLR.
Mar 22, 2020 17:12:08 #
kay55 wrote:
Is there a mirrorless camera out there or on the horizon that would be considered a point and shoot camera?
I have had my eye on the Panasonic zs200 for an easy carry travel camera with a decent zoom, but wasn't sure if I might be missing a better alternative. Thoughts? Suggestions?
I have had my eye on the Panasonic zs200 for an easy carry travel camera with a decent zoom, but wasn't sure if I might be missing a better alternative. Thoughts? Suggestions?
They are all mirrorless. But if you need an electronic viewfinder (advanced P&S and Bridge), and/or interchangeable lens, then that's a bit more involved and no longer just a point and shoot.
Mar 22, 2020 17:18:15 #
BebuLamar wrote:
And mirrorless is MILC for short! But call it whatever you want I don't argue. I just said that the question: Is there a mirrorless point and shoot? The answer is both yes and no depending how you define the term "Mirrorless" and "Point and Shoot".
MILC is Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Camera, which are not typically what we associate with Point and Shoot.
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Mar 22, 2020 17:20:05 #
Bill_de wrote:
MILC is Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Camera, which are not typically what we associate with Point and Shoot.
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Yes, you are both correct.
Mar 22, 2020 17:26:54 #
Bill_de wrote:
MILC is Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Camera, which are not typically what we associate with Point and Shoot.
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As I said it's all about how you define the terms. People when say "Mirrorless" often mean MILC.
Mar 22, 2020 17:31:05 #
BebuLamar wrote:
As I said it's all about how you define the terms. People when say "Mirrorless" often mean MILC.
I believe the initial use of mirrorless implied MILC.
Mar 22, 2020 18:51:50 #
I may be wrong but the way I define the 2 term "Mirrorless" and "Point and Shoot" based on when I first learned about them.
1. Point and Shoot (P&S for short)
This was back in the early 80's when they started introduced compact camera with AF and full automatic exposure control. These did not allow the users to make adjustment like aperture, shutter speed or focusing distance. So all the users have to do and can do is to simply point and shoot. These are also relatively compact but not really small. So my definition of a P&S is that a camera that automatically makes adjustment for exposure and focusing but doesn't allow the users to set these manually if they wish.
2. Mirrorless
Cameras film or digital that don't have mirror were available for more than a hundred years. I didn't hear the term "Mirrorless" until Samsung and Sony first introduced their "Mirrorless Intechangeable Lens Camera" and thus the term "Mirrorless" implies MILC.
So with those definition the answer to the OP is a NO. I don't know of any MILC that doesn't allow the user to make settings for exposure and focus manually.
1. Point and Shoot (P&S for short)
This was back in the early 80's when they started introduced compact camera with AF and full automatic exposure control. These did not allow the users to make adjustment like aperture, shutter speed or focusing distance. So all the users have to do and can do is to simply point and shoot. These are also relatively compact but not really small. So my definition of a P&S is that a camera that automatically makes adjustment for exposure and focusing but doesn't allow the users to set these manually if they wish.
2. Mirrorless
Cameras film or digital that don't have mirror were available for more than a hundred years. I didn't hear the term "Mirrorless" until Samsung and Sony first introduced their "Mirrorless Intechangeable Lens Camera" and thus the term "Mirrorless" implies MILC.
So with those definition the answer to the OP is a NO. I don't know of any MILC that doesn't allow the user to make settings for exposure and focus manually.
Mar 22, 2020 20:15:09 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
kay55 wrote:
I found a lot of confusion in the categories when I was looking for a bridge camera. My reference to a point and shoot camera was picked up in the filter section of camera sellers websites. My thought is that they do not have exchangeable lenses and have a lot of automatic settings. Very similar to what I think of a bridge camera. I don't know what their definition is for these terms.
My Nikon Bridge camera is a fixed zoom lens. Pocket cameras the same. I've never seen, nor heard of an interchangeable lens Bridge camera.
Mar 23, 2020 04:13:52 #
People seem to use different definitions for what qualifies and doesn't qualify as a point & shoot camera.
For me, it is any camera which lacks manual or semi-manual exposure modes; a camera that is specifically designed for primarily point & shoot operation. In contrast, there are those who insist all bridge cameras are point & shoot... although so far I have not heard a reasonable explanation as to why bridge cameras should be classified as point & shoot cameras, while DSLR cameras should not be.
For me, it is any camera which lacks manual or semi-manual exposure modes; a camera that is specifically designed for primarily point & shoot operation. In contrast, there are those who insist all bridge cameras are point & shoot... although so far I have not heard a reasonable explanation as to why bridge cameras should be classified as point & shoot cameras, while DSLR cameras should not be.
Mar 23, 2020 06:51:32 #
mrtaxi
Loc: Old Westbury NY, Fort Lauderdale, FL
My mirrorless travel cameras are Sony RX100’s. I have the mark 3,4 & 7. The 7 has more reach and amazing eye recognition. They are all very Very small with a great fixed non changeable fast lens. I highly recommend them.
Mar 23, 2020 07:28:37 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
kay55 wrote:
Is there a mirrorless camera out there or on the horizon that would be considered a point and shoot camera?
I have had my eye on the Panasonic zs200 for an easy carry travel camera with a decent zoom, but wasn't sure if I might be missing a better alternative. Thoughts? Suggestions?
I have had my eye on the Panasonic zs200 for an easy carry travel camera with a decent zoom, but wasn't sure if I might be missing a better alternative. Thoughts? Suggestions?
You will find most point and shoots are in fact, Mirrorless.
Mar 23, 2020 08:14:45 #
terpentijn wrote:
The best you can get right now is the Fuji X-100V.
Personal Opinion !
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