Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Here is information from the respected John Hopkins University on the Corona Virus.
It is excellent news when you consider a world population of 7.8 billion and from that only .0002% of the world population have died from this virus.
Global hunger kills .1% of the population by comparison (9,000,000 annually).

This is very good news for the world.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

INTERNATIONAL MORTALITY RATES UPDATED; WHAT DO THEY TELL US?

Our friend Brian Sullivan has updated the international mortality table that I posted a few days ago, through yesterday. It shows deaths per million of population in 12 Western European countries, South Korea and the U.S. The blue bar shows the per capita death rate (per million) as of March 16, the orange bar as of March 20.

The U.S. has the lowest per capita death rate of this group, tied with Austria, at 0.7 per million, up from 0.3 four days earlier.

Italy has the highest mortality rate by far, at 67 per million. It is too early to gauge the ultimate course of the epidemic, but in crude terms it looks as though Italy is heading for a death rate of something like 100 per million. It could easily go higher than that.

I don’t think the U.S. will experience a mortality rate anywhere near as high as Italy’s, for a number of reasons including our younger population, far fewer smokers, lower population density, a better health care system and early deployment of anti-viral drugs, some of which are likely to prove helpful. But let’s assume the U.S. ultimately sees a mortality rate of 100 per million.

That would be 143 times the current U.S. rate, not outside the realm of possibility. Do the math: if we have around 330 million people, and 100 die per million, that equals 33,000, which would be equivalent to the deaths from an average seasonal flu season.

Maybe it’s worse than that; maybe by the time it runs its course, the death toll from COVID-19 rises to 200 per million, 286 times the current rate. That would still be less than the death toll from flu in the U.S. just two years ago.

Maybe the Wuhan virus will prove much worse than any of those crude assumptions suggest. It is too early to rule out that possibility. But policymakers need to consider the possibility that the damage done by the extreme measures being taken to slow the spread of the virus will ultimately prove to be greater than the harm done by the virus itself.”

Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.

Like Russian Roulette, if you’re in the .0002%??

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

7.8 billion people, 13,600 deaths from Corona.
Do the math some time beside all the moronic BS you wasted your life posting.
Current rate it will be no worse than the regular flu.
You fall for fake news hysteria like all libs do.

wrangler5 Loc: Missouri

A doctor friend recently told me that information coming out of Italy is almost completely unreliable. Supposedly there are some hospitals that report ALL deaths as C19 deaths. And I've read elsewhere that any person who dies after testing positive for the C19 virus is reported as a C19 death, even if it's due to a completely different cause like a car crash or heart attack. OTOH, supposedly people over 80 are neither tested nor treated in Italy, and if that's so then both the infection and death rates as reported are skewed.

So take Italian figures with a large grain of salt. Same as we should with data from China (although for different reasons.)

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

I believe this as well.
I posted this to show that the virus is minuscule regarding deaths worldwide vs other causes and that should give us great hope and peace that this is not really as bad as it is being hyped to be. Even in real numbers the deaths are minuscule compared to the H1N1 of 2009-2010 and the regular flu.

ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca

I would question "if" this is good news or not -- I'll give you it is the only news we have - But at what Value is it?? -- At this point We Don't Know What We Don't Know ---
We & the EU are not testing for this crap - Not testing anything close to a representing percentage of our respective populations -- Only a few countries in Asia So. Korea being one -- Apparently they have been somewhat successful -- We can assume their are 3 types of individuals -- 1) Those that know they have it -- 2) Those that have it but don't know they have it -- Now some of these folks will never know they have it but will effect others -- We can call these folks CARRIERS 3) The rest of us that haven't come down with it yet ----

This damn thing has yet to run it's World Wide course -- Without sufficient mass population TESTING we JUST DON"T KNOW!!

SO MUCH FOR SO LITTLE GOOD NEWS -- But thanks anyway !!

MichaelH Loc: NorCal via Lansing, MI

There are some obvious errors in your analysis.

First is your comparison to death by global hunger/starvation: China and most other areas that are being hard hit by this coronavirus are locking down most of their citizens - a huge and costly undertaking. If that level of expense and commitment was applied to global hunger not a single person would die from hunger.

Second you are comparing a full year of death by hunger (with very little effort being applied to alleviate it) with a quarter of a year of coronavirus (with huge measures and cost being applied to alleviate it).

Another comparison often made is the one between the flu and coronavirus. This is another bad comparison. We know that the usual flu kills .1% of those who get it. And many of us do not get the flu because we get the flu vaccine. There is no coronavirus vaccine and many models show that without somewhat draconian social distancing measures up to 50% or more of us could get this virus. And we also know that this coronavirus is as easily transmitted as the flu. We also know that its killing rate is between 1% and 2%.

So if we go with the low death rate of 1% and only 10% of the human population is ultimately infected because we do nothing to stop it from spreading that gets us to a count of 7,800,000 dead people. That is almost 8 million people.

A more fair comparison would be to the 2009 H1N1 flu that you mentioned. We are four months into this coronavirus pandemic and have 11,201 deaths. Four months into the 2009 H1Ni flu we had 332 deaths.

Just like "Bunko T.", I do not want to be one of those unlucky enough to die from this.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Why do you all libs have to be so hateful and negative?
You are way too stupid to discuss anything intelligently.
Libs make morons and dirt clods look like geniuses.
Trying to show the negative nellies that this is not anywhere as bad as the H1N1 of 2009 -2010.
Far fewer deaths and most all recover who catch the virus and death rate in the world is statistically irrelevant.
Quit being such haters and jerks.
Accept that no thinking people are panicked and see the positive of John Hopkins numbers that YOU did not even bother looking at.

ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca

You made it POLITICAL
A great marker on a Tomb Stone:
He/She Died BUT:
They were Statistically Irrelevant!

MichaelH Loc: NorCal via Lansing, MI

I did look at the link you provided. Maybe you did too. But you did not understand it. I will repeat my main point that you did not read.

The world is four months into this coronavirus pandemic and has 14,366 deaths. Four months into the 2009 H1N1 flu the world had 332 deaths. We are very much at the beginning of this epidemic.

These are very different numbers. (11,201 was from 3/21/2020 if that is why you thought I did not read your link.) And I guess it might be important to point out that most of the coronavirus deaths will be in addition to the flu deaths.

I am not trying to be a jerk. I am just pointing out I have a different opinion than you do.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

My original post was all good news, no politics.
You evil lefties just hate anything that challenges your evil hate good and America narrative.
What is political about showing John Hopkins data link and stating a fact from that link?
You just despise me because I am always right and you hate on whatever I post if it is good for America, even this wonderful news.

ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca

I'm not EVIL - just ask my Dog
&
I'm not a LEFTIST on any issue
But your addressing as "good news" an Issue that's not over yet & in some places on this Planet has yet to begin
It's not over until it's over
Then if you must call it Good news

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

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ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca

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