hammond

D500 doesn't handle high ISO?
I've only heard and experienced the opposite.

twice_shooter

I really don’t think Annie Leibovitz would take part in this discussion. Just saying.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Generally agree.
I try to shoot with a mind to possible cropping.
For me though is when taking buildings without a TS lens I like to straighten the walls a bit and thus need lots of space and sides so in the end the building is not cropped at the top or sides lost. One needs to visualize this from previous shots and mistakes.
But at times I fill the frame. So as many will agree it comes with experimenting and experience.

stratmantes

Not long ago I took a friends Wedding photos and for some reason she told me she was going to put them in an album so I asked her what size she wanted, yes you probably guessed it, she wanted a non standard format size and that made me think about the framing. So I just allowed for cropping.
Great post Hogger

Jimmy T Loc: Virginia

Ron, thanks for asking the question that has long been on my mind.
Hummmm, where do I start? Well, I wish that I had asked this question well before I had the resources of the "Collective" (input of) UHH.
Starting a long time ago I was taught to "fill the frame". That served me well with slides in the seventies.
Then came prints and framing in the eighties, when I "committed" to the 11X14" format.
Then, much later Digital and post-processing arrived for me. However, I remained faithful to my first love, 11X14" prints.
Unfortunately, this involved cropping/saving without storing the original, sigh. Rookie mistake! Now I have a lot of closely cropped 11X14" files.

Nowadays I shoot only with a full-frame 20 MP sensor camera leaving enough "fat" around subjects to crop using almost any "normal" crop.
I also save the "new" file as an "XXX.01.JPG" (or XXX.02.JPG etc.). The UHH community has pointed out many times that memory is now inexpensive and I concur.
Probably more so than any other high dollar equipment that we use, so the additional files are of little consequence to me.
I am confident that there is more than one way to skin a kittie and soonly my well-learned UHH Brethern will point this out by affectionately and firmly rubbing my nose it, grin.
I am thankful for all of my UHH Brethern, even the "snarky" ones, as you all bring something different to the party.
Now, what was the question?
Smile,
JimmyT Sends

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

I don’t think when people say “fill the frame” they literally mean completely fill the frame when shooting. It just means when composing, either while shooting or in PP don’t leave a lot of empty space. It’s not an every time “rule”. Just like any other composition rule it’s a guideline and depends on the situation.

bleirer

You express your point of view strongly, but do you leave room for the idea that your way is not the only way? For example one never knows what shooting in a dynamic situation will yield. Sometimes the swan is flexing its wings in front of the sun at dusk for only an instant and you have to fire. Later the shot is perfect except for needing some fill to make room for the wings. That is not dependency, it's trivially easy to fill, and the viewer wouldnt know it was done.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

Actually you are not right.

Slides were used for families 'as is' when projecting 'You had to be there'.
For professional that had to fit a precise format (magazines and the like) cropping was done all the time and was planned in advance.

olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida

Compose and frame for the scene and subject matter, has always worked well for me....if it fills the frame, all the better.

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

Making correct/finalized cropping decisions at time of capture by "filling the frame" is part of being a GOOD photographer .....and getting optimized IQ in the final results......
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billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

I use an aspect ratio of 3:2. I never have had a problem printing 8X12, 12X18, 16X24, or 20X30. You see, I plan ahead. Failure to plan is planning to fail.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

It is not a point of view. It is just good photography not to depend on software for anything.

You are now mixing apples and oranges (composition for result) and luminosity range (also known as DR)*.

You promote correctly flaws after the fact**. I counsel 'get it right' in the first place by knowing not only your subject but also the final use of a capture.

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* Even when it comes to DR you are off the mark. If you do not know the limits of your camera how can you plan and take a good capture as a starting point? I am puzzled here.
** Ever heard of patience?

SoCal Dave

Amen! I had given that feedback to Ikea and Aaron Bros. The precut mat and frames should be set for digital sizes noting that for many people 13x19 is the biggest they can print... Where are the precut mats with 13x19 inside dimensions? Yes I know that ff is 13x19.5. I am blessed to have larger printers but for many years that was all I had and even one more inch than 12x18 makes a big visual difference. Likewise where is the precut 17x25.5 and matching frame. Why all the oddball frame sizes at Ikea?

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Yes! Very good advice. I always allow room for cropping - well, almost always, depending.

Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV

This is nonsense. Have you ever taken a wildlife photo in your life? Knowing your camera and subject is good advice. But what if your subject does something completely unexpected at close to the speed of light at the last split second. You have a once in a life time photo that you can't use because it's not framed to your idea of perfection?