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Mar 18, 2020 23:37:54   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
dickwilber wrote:
A 100 mm would not be my choice for either birds (especially not birds) or landscape.


Yes, a long telephoto was already owned. This may require fast shutter speeds (over 1/1000 for zoom 600), so use high ISO for that.

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Mar 19, 2020 02:03:23   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Mbanker wrote:
I currently have - Canon 28-135 Ultrasonic 3.5-5.6, Canon EF 50mm 1.8, Tamron 150 - 600mm. So far I believe my inconsistent photos are my lack of ability vs. my equipment. Just wondering about Zeiss.


Are you aware that all Zeiss lenses for Canon EF mount are manual focus only?

T7i... like most modern DSLRs... don't have manual focus assist features and have relatively small viewfinders, making it more difficult. I'm not saying it can't be done, but manual focus usually makes for a considerably slower, more deliberate and careful shooting style. Live View can be used and there are add-ons like "Magic Lantern" (not avail. for all Canon... not sure about T7i), which can help doing manual focus with Live View.

Zeiss makes some great lenses... very high end stuff, extremely well made. But, there are approx. 90 Canon lenses to choose among... many of which are excellent too... and most of which have autofocus (many Canon also have image stabilization, another feature that no Zeiss lens has).

Several have mentioned using Zeiss lenses on Sony.... First, many Sony are mirrorless cameras which have manual focus assist features built in, such as "focus peaking" in the viewfinder. That makes using a manual focus lens MUCH easier to work with. Also, Zeiss and Sony partner on lens design and manufacture. There are Zeiss lenses, made by Zeiss.... and there are Sony Zeiss lenses designed and made cooperatively by both Sony and Zeiss, often with each contributing parts to the other and one or the other doing the final assembly. They are then sold through Sony's distribution network. There are also a number of Zeiss autofocus lenses made for Sony e-mount.

Someone also mentioned using Zeiss Makro lens on a full frame camera (they refer to it as "FX", which leads me to believe it's a Nikon). That's another thing, too. For one, much macro photography is done using manual focus. Also, full frame viewfinders are larger and some have manual focus assist features and/or optional focusing screens that can be helpful.

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Mar 19, 2020 10:48:29   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
Note that the Rebel series (T7i) are EF-S lenses for the crop sensor, but you can use EF full frame lenses on them too. EF-S lenses cost less and they make great wide angles for them at moderate prices. However, any EF lens used on EF-S cameras will be even better because only the central area of the image is used--aberrations increase toward the outer edges of the image, so the center is usually the sweet spot. Canon EF-S 10-17mm is a brilliant lens, much cheaper than the EF versions.

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Mar 19, 2020 14:52:16   #
Mbanker
 
Charles 46277 wrote:
Mb, you confess a beginner's problem, but also one that even pros can suffer from--that when a poor workman blames his tools. If we all devoted our efforts to getting the greatest results possible from what we have--before adding what we do not have--we could all do better. Many great photographers had lenses not as good as yours (and fewer of them). Probably, we don't clearly know what else we need until we have mastered what we have.
So I suggest you learn what you can do with your lenses, and do that. I can't imagine how many great weddings were recorded on the simple Yashica twin lens with only the one lens--when that was all we had, we found, in time, that we can listen to the camera instead of making the equipment listen to us. Only when you really know what you need to get next will there be any point shopping.
From the simple question, as you master your equipment, notice what you need but are not getting--and be sure whose fault it is. With Canon, you can in time move up to their finest lenses, perhaps for a start filling the gaps. They have some moderately priced very wide angle lenses you do not have yet.
Mb, you confess a beginner's problem, but also one... (show quote)


thanks for the comments. I am just going to settle down and master what I have. I really like the T7i and it will take me a while to learn all it has to offer. And every now and then I get a sharp, well composed shot. Mostly by accident, but I am keeping notes so I can remember what settings I used. Plus I am reading more on UTube about composing shots.

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Mar 19, 2020 14:59:12   #
Mbanker
 
Charles 46277 wrote:
Note that the Rebel series (T7i) are EF-S lenses for the crop sensor, but you can use EF full frame lenses on them too. EF-S lenses cost less and they make great wide angles for them at moderate prices. However, any EF lens used on EF-S cameras will be even better because only the central area of the image is used--aberrations increase toward the outer edges of the image, so the center is usually the sweet spot. Canon EF-S 10-17mm is a brilliant lens, much cheaper than the EF versions.


Thanks very helpful comments.

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Mar 19, 2020 15:00:14   #
Mbanker
 
Charles 46277 wrote:
Yes, a long telephoto was already owned. This may require fast shutter speeds (over 1/1000 for zoom 600), so use high ISO for that.


Thanks

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Mar 19, 2020 15:01:16   #
Mbanker
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Are you aware that all Zeiss lenses for Canon EF mount are manual focus only?

T7i... like most modern DSLRs... don't have manual focus assist features and have relatively small viewfinders, making it more difficult. I'm not saying it can't be done, but manual focus usually makes for a considerably slower, more deliberate and careful shooting style. Live View can be used and there are add-ons like "Magic Lantern" (not avail. for all Canon... not sure about T7i), which can help doing manual focus with Live View.

Zeiss makes some great lenses... very high end stuff, extremely well made. But, there are approx. 90 Canon lenses to choose among... many of which are excellent too... and most of which have autofocus (many Canon also have image stabilization, another feature that no Zeiss lens has).

Several have mentioned using Zeiss lenses on Sony.... First, many Sony are mirrorless cameras which have manual focus assist features built in, such as "focus peaking" in the viewfinder. That makes using a manual focus lens MUCH easier to work with. Also, Zeiss and Sony partner on lens design and manufacture. There are Zeiss lenses, made by Zeiss.... and there are Sony Zeiss lenses designed and made cooperatively by both Sony and Zeiss, often with each contributing parts to the other and one or the other doing the final assembly. They are then sold through Sony's distribution network. There are also a number of Zeiss autofocus lenses made for Sony e-mount.

Someone also mentioned using Zeiss Makro lens on a full frame camera (they refer to it as "FX", which leads me to believe it's a Nikon). That's another thing, too. For one, much macro photography is done using manual focus. Also, full frame viewfinders are larger and some have manual focus assist features and/or optional focusing screens that can be helpful.
Are you aware that all Zeiss lenses for Canon EF m... (show quote)


Thanks for commenting. I am learning a lot, it is most appreciated.

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Mar 19, 2020 15:01:58   #
Mbanker
 
Charles 46277 wrote:
Yes, a long telephoto was already owned. This may require fast shutter speeds (over 1/1000 for zoom 600), so use high ISO for that.


Thanks good info.

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Mar 19, 2020 22:06:52   #
Purelightglow Loc: High plains
 
You have good lenses and unless you need a special ability like faster glass for example you are not missing much if anything. It takes a lot of experience and knowledge - some of which is obscure, to know what is good and when there is a special ability or problem. I have a Zeiss 100mm Makro and for the most part it will do the same as my Canon 100mm f2 but a stop darker perhaps on the shadows and closer focus without ext. rings. over 1000$ macro 2:1 vs 150$ autofocus small size lens; choices are endless and expensive.

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Mar 19, 2020 22:18:58   #
Mbanker
 
Purelightglow wrote:
You have good lenses and unless you need a special ability like faster glass for example you are not missing much if anything. It takes a lot of experience and knowledge - some of which is obscure, to know what is good and when there is a special ability or problem. I have a Zeiss 100mm Makro and for the most part it will do the same as my Canon 100mm f2 but a stop darker perhaps on the shadows and closer focus without ext. rings. over 1000$ macro 2:1 vs 150$ autofocus small size lens; choices are endless and expensive.
You have good lenses and unless you need a special... (show quote)


Great advice. I will stick with my current lens and concentrate on learning my cameras capabilities and how to use Topaz plus Lightroom. Lot to learn

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