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Mar 16, 2020 17:55:36   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
When I increase the monitor sharpening as my default, all my photos look sharp.
So I do not need to use Unsharp Mask in PP(Elements)?

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Mar 16, 2020 18:13:31   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Only if all of your other viewers have the same monitor set the same way.

(Adjusting your monitor does nothing to the file, the view is only on your monitor.)

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Mar 16, 2020 18:17:43   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
I see. So, where do I set my monitor sharpening?

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Mar 16, 2020 18:40:57   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Ken, I'm not familiar with your monitor, as you didn't mention what kind. However, Longshadow is correct. Monitor adjustments will only affect the image as you see it on your monitor. You will need to do whatever sharpening you wish on the image itself. Be careful though. I approach any adjustments I do to an image the same as adding seasoning to a meal. One doesn't want to taste the seasoning. But, if left out a person would sense there was something missing.
--Bob
kenArchi wrote:
When I increase the monitor sharpening as my default, all my photos look sharp.
So I do not need to use Unsharp Mask in PP(Elements)?

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Mar 16, 2020 18:42:30   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
Lightroom has a sharpen for screen on the export screen. Never used it, sharpening in the develop mode works well for me.

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Mar 16, 2020 19:29:24   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
kenArchi wrote:
I see. So, where do I set my monitor sharpening?

I would probably adjust sharpening in an editor, print it, then adjust the monitor to look like the print.
That way what you see on the monitor is what you get when printed.

Or, if used for your viewing pleasure, adjust it to where you like it.

My cell phone has an AMOLED screen, BOY do images look good on it!
But not the same as the prints or my monitors.

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Mar 16, 2020 20:14:09   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
Good idea Longshadow. I could also print some members photos here, as well as mine and make an average adjustment to my monitor.

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Mar 17, 2020 07:17:35   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
I prefer un-sharp mask, set to default levels. But I first work to remove noise, then un-sharp mask.

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Mar 17, 2020 07:57:07   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
I utilize Topaz DeNoise AI then Sharpen AI on my images

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Mar 17, 2020 10:34:47   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
kenArchi wrote:
When I increase the monitor sharpening as my default, all my photos look sharp.
So I do not need to use Unsharp Mask in PP(Elements)?


IMO sharpening should be carried out as part of your editing workflow. This means that you can create a file that can be viewed on any screen. If editing a RAW file I find it best to adjust for WB, light, color and tone and maybe saturation then develop. After conversion, sharpening is best carried out after contrast and final exposure adjustments with an eye on noise control. If you use a different filter layer for each method of sharpening, you can then choose which seems best for the picture you are working on.

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Mar 17, 2020 11:40:49   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Um, he's talking about the sharpening option on the MONITOR,
not about using the sharpening option in an editor.

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Mar 17, 2020 11:44:32   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
In these days of social distancing, it would probably make more sense to sharpen the image file via the editing process rather than expecting everyone to come over to the OP's location to see the image as sharpened by the local display monitor.

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Mar 18, 2020 04:04:19   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Longshadow wrote:
Um, he's talking about the sharpening option on the MONITOR,
not about using the sharpening option in an editor.


Yes - but as we both said in posts above - by sharpening in editing the pic is suitable for any monitor or for printing, and the OP did seem to think that his alternative was limited to unsharp mask.

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Mar 18, 2020 04:16:17   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
In these days of social distancing, it would probably make more sense to sharpen the image file via the editing process rather than expecting everyone to come over to the OP's location to see the image as sharpened by the local display monitor.


Yes - agreed, but I remember the days of projectors and slide shows....

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Mar 18, 2020 09:06:12   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
In these days of social distancing, it would probably make more sense to sharpen the image file via the editing process rather than expecting everyone to come over to the OP's location to see the image as sharpened by the local display monitor.
A couple of laptops ago I had a feature called Dell True Color. I wanted to invite UHH buddies over to see how awesome my photos looked, but I have a very small apartment.

Dell True Color is a utility that provides optimal color on your PC display for different viewing environments by dynamically enhancing color, contrast, brightness and sharpness to harness the maximum capabilities of the Dell display

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