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Mar 15, 2020 11:24:57   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Rose42 wrote:
You expect people to take you seriously when you stoop to the childish "Fat Donny". You must have been called "Fat Frankie". You are no different than those who came up with the stupid names for Obama. Change a few words and presto - you're an alt rightie.

Its sure not a swing and a miss. No matter how Trump fouled up the democrat candidates came up with a big goose egg. In short, the democrats have nothing either - just cheap talk.


Even if the names are appropriate? It's what we do in the Attic. There are a few who would have nothing to post if name-calling ceased.

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Mar 15, 2020 11:39:56   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
boberic wrote:
You still missed the point. Assuming you are right and Trump mishandled the thing from the begining, the patriotic thing would be for Biden/Bernie to do is ask HOW CAN I HELP. Not petty political pandering. They both have shown their main interest is getting elected and not helping the American people.


I agree again. Here's a novel idea. Instead of campaigning to raise money for their elections (all elections) take the hundreds of millions of dollars and contribute it to defeating the flu virus instead of their competition. By raising money and showing that they are putting it "to the good of the people that they will represent" they could instill confidence that THEY are the best choice when the election comes.

However you see, that simply will not happen for elections are BIG BUSINESS. There are those that make a very lucrative living via election campaigns. There are firms that are hired for PR and strategy work. Media gets huge money for the ads that are run. People are hired to "spread the word" on the phones and on the streets. It goes on and on.

It has been estimated that the Obama campaign raised and spent nearly $1-Billion dollars. Simply ask yourself, "Who got the money?" Well....I can surely tell you who did not.

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Mar 15, 2020 12:33:31   #
Angmo
 
Frank T wrote:
The best thing they can do is get Trump out if office and win the House and the Senate.


A deflection from the topic you’re afraid to answer

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Mar 15, 2020 13:17:50   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
I agree again. Here's a novel idea. Instead of campaigning to raise money for their elections (all elections) take the hundreds of millions of dollars and contribute it to defeating the flu virus instead of their competition. By raising money and showing that they are putting it "to the good of the people that they will represent" they could instill confidence that THEY are the best choice when the election comes.

However you see, that simply will not happen for elections are BIG BUSINESS. There are those that make a very lucrative living via election campaigns. There are firms that are hired for PR and strategy work. Media gets huge money for the ads that are run. People are hired to "spread the word" on the phones and on the streets. It goes on and on.

It has been estimated that the Obama campaign raised and spent nearly $1-Billion dollars. Simply ask yourself, "Who got the money?" Well....I can surely tell you who did not.
I agree again. Here's a novel idea. Instead of c... (show quote)


...but, but, but, whatabout Obama. Boohoohoo.

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Mar 15, 2020 13:38:19   #
Rose42
 
DaveO wrote:
Even if the names are appropriate? It's what we do in the Attic. There are a few who would have nothing to post if name-calling ceased.


How dare you bring logic into this.

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Mar 15, 2020 13:43:22   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Rose42 wrote:
How dare you bring logic into this.


Never a dull moment!

Time to do some work!

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Mar 16, 2020 10:00:25   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
boberic wrote:
You still missed the point. Assuming you are right and Trump mishandled the thing from the begining, the patriotic thing would be for Biden/Bernie to do is ask HOW CAN I HELP. Not petty political pandering. They both have shown their main interest is getting elected and not helping the American people.


The best thing they can do is win the Presidency and repair the damage that Donny-Bag-OfDonuts did to our country

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Mar 16, 2020 10:11:39   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 

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Mar 16, 2020 12:50:05   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
Frank T wrote:
The best thing they can do is win the Presidency and repair the damage that Donny-Bag-OfDonuts did to our country


The best thing that we can do for our government is to impose term limits on Congress and Senate seats as well as agency bureaucrats. The United States Government should not be considered employment and benefits for life. I'm not referring to the 'boots on the ground' employees nor our military leaders. Agency executives and upper level staff should not be career employees....unless no change is ever desired.

Imagine how one's life would be if there were no divorce. Well, that's exactly what we presently have as an analogy.

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Mar 16, 2020 13:00:31   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
sippyjug104 wrote:
The best thing that we can do for our government is to impose term limits on Congress and Senate seats as well as agency bureaucrats. The United States Government should not be considered employment and benefits for life. I'm not referring to the 'boots on the ground' employees nor our military leaders. Agency executives and upper level staff should not be career employees....unless no change is ever desired.

Imagine how one's life would be if there were no divorce. Well, that's exactly what we presently have as an analogy.
The best thing that we can do for our government i... (show quote)


True, but after many, many years, the gov't still sucks!

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Mar 16, 2020 13:18:56   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
boberic wrote:
Instead of petty political bitching why have I not heard this question from any democrat. WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP. Americans are at risk.And all that democrats, including Biden and Bernie can do is bitch abount Trump. Just stupid partisan political BS. It's very telling. They don't care about the Americans. All they care about is power and getting elected. Anyone who believes that those democrats are not weaponizing the Carona Virus has his head in an impossible location.


Bingo!

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Mar 16, 2020 13:27:11   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
DaveO wrote:
...but, but, but, whatabout Obama. Boohoohoo.


He still sucks

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Mar 16, 2020 13:29:17   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Frank T wrote:
The best thing they can do is get Trump out if office and win the House and the Senate.


Ya we're seeing how well your cess hole New York is workin out.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-outbreak-spurs-new-york-new-jersey-connecticut-to-shut-bars-restaurants-and-movie-theaters

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Mar 16, 2020 15:13:49   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
DaveO wrote:
True, but after many, many years, the gov't still sucks!


It's sad that our government has bloated and became so self-serving which is exactly what the Founding Fathers had designed it not to be. It took eleven years to get the consensus of the States going back and forth to finally arrive at our Constitution.

Like President Trump or not however what his presidency has revealed is just how ingrained, deep and tangled the real powers with the government truly are and to what ends they will resort to in order to keep it that way.

And that...is the most worrying part of it all. Transparency is only as good as the direction one looks.

There's a story about a fellow one dark night that comes across a man frantically crawling on his hands and knees under the street lamp. The fellow asks, "What are you looking for and perhaps I can help?" The man says, "I lost my keys and I need to get home". The fellow asks, "Where about do you think you dropped them?" The man says, "Somewhere over there across the street." The fellow asks, "Why on earth are you looking for them over here?" The man says, "Because the light is better over here."

And therein lies the problem. Transparency is good however looking in the right direction produces results.

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Mar 16, 2020 15:39:08   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
boberic wrote:
Instead of petty political bitching why have I not heard this question from any democrat. WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP. Americans are at risk.And all that democrats, including Biden and Bernie can do is bitch abount Trump. Just stupid partisan political BS. It's very telling. They don't care about the Americans. All they care about is power and getting elected. Anyone who believes that those democrats are not weaponizing the Carona Virus has his head in an impossible location.



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