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Mar 16, 2020 09:59:37   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Krackhead, you post from far left whacked out sites, so every bit of each post is garbage. And you don't always put a link to the crap.


Who let the dogs out?

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Mar 16, 2020 10:00:39   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Or you could have merely Googled it as suggested.
You fall for it every time when I tell a fact you claim I am lying and making rude comments about me showing your laziness and ignorance. Then to show all what you are I reveal what is common knowledge and you usually disappear or make a moronic comment as you just did.
Just accept I am right and save yourself embarrassment, but you always call me a liar and to prove I am not. Well I just let you do that over and over when you could google the truth easily and save embarrassing yourself rather than repeatedly calling me a liar and other insulting remarks making yourself really look silly and ignorant.
Again I and America win you lose.
Or you could have merely Googled it as suggested. ... (show quote)


You are dealing with krackhead, remember? There is no grey matter between his ears.

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Mar 16, 2020 10:01:48   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
LWW wrote:
Who is Walking Eagle ... besides a figment of your imagination?


Is that a serious question or just yet another post count-incrementing remark?

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Mar 16, 2020 10:03:10   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
LWW wrote:
Who is Walking Eagle ... besides a figment of your imagination?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzxv2QuNDiI

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Mar 16, 2020 10:03:17   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Kraken wrote:
It's always about the money and to hell with the people.


Yes, that's how it is in kanuckistan, always about the money, and to hell with the people.

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Mar 16, 2020 10:03:53   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Well, to answer you and LWW in one fell swoop...

First of all, Trump should not have downplayed the seriousness of the virus weeks ago. Calling it a Democratic hoax against him was not only wrong, but totally inappropriate. There are people all over the world dying from this pandemic, and none of them are part of a ploy against Trump. Comments like that show that HE was politicizing the pandemic, and they were completely insensitive to anyone -- even Americans -- who have lost family members to the disease.

Secondly, he should have acted more aggressively sooner. He did his best to keep numbers low by not acting to get test kits out, not allowing commercial/university/hospital labs to do the testing, etc. His comment about not allowing the ship to dock because it would raise the number of US cases was stupid... and pathetic.

Third, he should not have lied to the public. Even in his Oval Office speech he lied or misrepresented facts that had to be corrected by people like Fauci, and corrections to his many falsehoods were often done within minutes of Trump opening his pie hole.

Fourth -- oh heck, forget the count -- he should have stepped aside a long time ago and let the scientists and health officials speak and do their job, rather than insisting that messaging had to be approved by the administration.

He should stop lying about how well things are going in the US. The ONLY reason numbers are low is because of lack of testing. The increase in cases is not indicative of the spread of the virus, but rather correlated to the number of tests out there. He also said anyone who wanted the test could get it (not true), that a vaccine would be ready in a few months (not true), that the spread was contained (not true), that COVID-19 is much like the common flu (not true), that this thing would miraculously go away (not true), that ... need I go on?

And what a bunch of bullshit when he was at CDC bragging about himself ("I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for President.").

Then there is his not taking responsibility for the slow response and blaming it on Obama. You know, the administration that set up a pandemic response office that Trump closed the day after the head of the group issued a dire warning about a pandemic being the most serious national security health threat. He told the reporter in the Rose Garden who asked the question that someone else in his administration may have done that, but he has no responsibility for it. Yet in almost the same breath he takes credit for the stock market rebounding slightly, claiming it is doing really well. Eleven years of growth lost... and he is happy with the market performance. WOW!!!

This virus may not be as bad as it seems, but the entire world is reacting for some reason, and it is having dire consequences for daily life now and for some time in the future. People are losing their jobs, or losing their salaries while not at work, unable to pay bills, etc, etc.

Trump did the right thing to limit travel from China early, but blocking travel from Europe -- without consulting foreign colleagues -- is not particularly helpful given that community spread is now the greatest means of spread. Declaring a national emergency is another good thing because it releases funds and resources, but much too late.

So if you want to hear me say Trump did a few things right, My respect for him could actually go up a notch if he would publicly admit that he was wrong early on in his handling of the crisis, but I won't hold my breath.
Well, to answer you and LWW in one fell swoop... b... (show quote)


No, please John, hold your breath. Quite possibly it was you who gave the Trudeau family the virus to begin with. Save the world if you can.

Much of your comment is the same old, same old comments revolving around your dislike for Trump. As of now, no matter what he SAID, America is still doing pretty well compared to the rest of the world. You don't like how he talks...We all get that. But look at your own statement, "I will concede that the actions may be right, but the way he handled the situation is piss poor." This is the first time Trump has handled a world wide epidemic in his Presidency. Every other POTUS can be said to have handled this type of thing not perfectly. Yet you expect perfection from an imperfect person. Please try to get over yourself. Concentrate on your own country at least when this is just as much a time of emergency to Canada as well as America.

Your actions once again prove you are just another troll when your own country is in peril and here you are whining and bitching about my country.

Dennis

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Mar 16, 2020 10:07:00   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
JohnFrim wrote:
EyeSore, why do you call people liars when they are telling the truth...

"The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus," Trump said. "One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.' That did not work out too well. They could not do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. ... They tried anything. ... And this is their new hoax."


And the Democrats ARE still politicizing the virus for their own benefit rather than to work with the President to do something. According to the anti American Democrats everything, did I mention, EVERYTHING, President has done since before he took office has been wrong. They make no bones shouting that lie to the world.

But WTF have the Democrats done FOR America? Not a G D thing that I can see other than to stir the feces pot and claim they are on the high road.

Dennis

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Mar 16, 2020 10:08:04   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
LWW wrote:
So you have nothing.




John Frim has always had nothing.

Dennis

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Mar 16, 2020 10:08:42   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
dennis2146 wrote:
No, please John, hold your breath. Quite possibly it was you who gave the Trudeau family the virus to begin with. Save the world if you can.

Much of your comment is the same old, same old comments revolving around your dislike for Trump. As of now, no matter what he SAID, America is still doing pretty well compared to the rest of the world. You don't like how he talks...We all get that. But look at your own statement, "I will concede that the actions may be right, but the way he handled the situation is piss poor." This is the first time Trump has handled a world wide epidemic in his Presidency. Every other POTUS can be said to have handled this type of thing not perfectly. Yet you expect perfection from an imperfect person. Please try to get over yourself. Concentrate on your own country at least when this is just as much a time of emergency to Canada as well as America.

Your actions once again prove you are just another troll when your own country is in peril and here you are whining and bitching about my country.

Dennis
No, please John, hold your breath. Quite possibly... (show quote)




I'm sure there are liberals who would say FDR handled WW2 perfectly after all we only lost this....

The US Army ( Army Air Corps included) If you count all deaths in the entire war and speculating since the Marines did most the heavy fighting in the Pacific theater with Army support in places like Burma or the Philippines. The grand total dead for the US Army is 318,247. Once again that is including North Africa. About 41,592 Army deaths occurred in the Pacific. So our speculated total for the European theater is 276,655 US Army KIA in Europe/North Africa

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Mar 16, 2020 10:09:16   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
dennis2146 wrote:


John Frim has always had nothing.

Dennis


Very, very good at bloviating however.

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Mar 16, 2020 10:11:00   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
dennis2146 wrote:
And the Democrats ARE still politicizing the virus for their own benefit rather than to work with the President to do something. According to the anti American Democrats everything, did I mention, EVERYTHING, President has done since before he took office has been wrong. They make no bones shouting that lie to the world.

But WTF have the Democrats done FOR America? Not a G D thing that I can see other than to stir the feces pot and claim they are on the high road.

Dennis


Don't stop your on a roll

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Mar 16, 2020 10:12:47   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
dennis2146 wrote:
And the Democrats ARE still politicizing the virus for their own benefit rather than to work with the President to do something. According to the anti American Democrats everything, did I mention, EVERYTHING, President has done since before he took office has been wrong. They make no bones shouting that lie to the world.

But WTF have the Democrats done FOR America? Not a G D thing that I can see other than to stir the feces pot and claim they are on the high road.

Dennis


Same thing they have done for black people for the last 50 years. Maintained a permanent under class as a constituency.

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Mar 16, 2020 10:14:53   #
EyeSawYou
 
thom w wrote:
"I don't call people who actually tell the truth "liars"

You absolutely called someone a liar for saying the flu killed 20,000 people last year. The next day you were posting that the flu killed 20,000 people last year. How is that not calling someone a liar for telling the truth?


MY God you are dense, I already addressed this yesterday you nut. You are lying once again, I NEVER said or claimed that the influenza killed 20,000 people last year, I said and I repeat....the flu killed 20,000 people THIS SEASON.

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Mar 16, 2020 10:14:59   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
dennis2146 wrote:
No, please John, hold your breath. Quite possibly it was you who gave the Trudeau family the virus to begin with. Save the world if you can.

Much of your comment is the same old, same old comments revolving around your dislike for Trump. As of now, no matter what he SAID, America is still doing pretty well compared to the rest of the world. You don't like how he talks...We all get that. But look at your own statement, "I will concede that the actions may be right, but the way he handled the situation is piss poor." This is the first time Trump has handled a world wide epidemic in his Presidency. Every other POTUS can be said to have handled this type of thing not perfectly. Yet you expect perfection from an imperfect person. Please try to get over yourself. Concentrate on your own country at least when this is just as much a time of emergency to Canada as well as America.

Your actions once again prove you are just another troll when your own country is in peril and here you are whining and bitching about my country.

Dennis
No, please John, hold your breath. Quite possibly... (show quote)


First of all, no need to be nasty and accuse me of spreading a virus that I don't have.

Truth and Fact: The US is NOT doing well. Cases are clearly under-reported because of lack of testing, which is a big part of the piss-poor response by Trump. If no testing -- ZERO -- were being done for COVID-19 then the deaths due to the illness to date would be chalked up to common flu, and the relatively low number of reported coronavirus deaths would be an unnoticeable blip on the high common flu death toll. The count of people afflicted by the virus can only be determined with testing, which Trump was late to provide and which he lied about regarding wide availability. How can you compare the total tested count in the entire US to date with the number of tests per day that S Korea was doing weeks ago? You call that an adequate US response? It's a joke!!! But a sad joke.

And I am worrying about the situation in Canada. I am taking all necessary/recommended precautions. I hope you are as well.

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Mar 16, 2020 10:15:10   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
thom w wrote:
I predict his reply will be "I've never heard any of that". I sort of cheated, that's always his answer.


Who are you talking about little girl? John refers to LWW and ME. Yet you tell us, "that's always his answer." Here you are once again spouting off trying to be part of a discussion when nobody on this forum has ever thought of you as part of anything at all. You never have reasonable discussion but always come up with some piss poor comment as an after thought in your attempt to show support for some Left Winger. But even those on the Left has shown you no support at all. I have made that very claim numerous times now and as yet not one person on the Left has stepped up to say I am wrong, that they all support your well thought out comments directed to support them and their discussion. Not one. Perhaps this time it will change and maybe hundreds of anti American Liberals will step up to support you. Ummmmm probably not. Hell little girl I am most likely your only BFF supporter here and I support nothing you have ever said. Most of the time you are still sitting on a fence.

Admit it. This was just one more feeble attempt to, "get me", but you don't have the huevos nor the intelligence to ever do that. Better luck next time.

Dennis

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