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Mar 15, 2020 23:37:34   #
genocolo Loc: Vail and Gasparilla Island
 
I have tried printing this on canvas and as an enlargement on Walgreens website. No matter what I do, the tips of the wings get clipped off. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance for your help.


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Mar 15, 2020 23:47:59   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
genocolo wrote:
I have tried printing this on canvas and as an enlargement on Walgreens website. No matter what I do, the tips of the wings get clipped off. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance for your help.


Are you sure you are selecting a 3:2 ratio (which the image posted is) when having it printed?

For a canvas, if the edges are going to be wrapped around a frame/board you will need to add extra to the edges, I'm sure you are aware.

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Mar 16, 2020 05:58:03   #
nikon_jon Loc: Northeast Arkansas
 
You are dealing with what is called format clash. The height to width ratio of 8x10 and 5x7 and other size prints are not the same as the height to width ratio of the sensor in the camera. The same thing happened often with 35mm in film photography. Often the photographer would fill his frame when shooting the pic, only to find that when it was printed on the standard size papers, he would have to crop something off to make it fit. One solution is to have it printed 'full format'. That means printing everything that is in the frame. When you do this, your print will not be standard size. The labs at Walgreens, and other consumer photo processors can't do that. You can get it done at labs that cater to professional photogs.

Another solution is to give your subject a little more space in the frame when you shoot it. This allows for printing without cropping off things you would really like to have in the picture when it is printed. In times past, portrait photographers who used 35mm had to do this. Otherwise when the printed to standard sizes, they would crop off the tops of heads, ears or chins when they printed the pics.

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Mar 16, 2020 06:07:34   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Try choosing a 3x2 format print (4x6, 8x12, 12x18, 16x20) from Walgreens or another processor. If you're looking at a canvas print, don't choose gallery wrap - have the sides black or a complimentary color.

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Mar 16, 2020 06:13:54   #
Capn_Dave
 
If you use Photoshop there is a feature called Content Aware fill. Make your Photoshop canvas size the size you need for printing and then fill in the blanks. You might have to do a little additional editing

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Mar 16, 2020 07:36:52   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Capn_Dave wrote:
If you use Photoshop there is a feature called Content Aware fill. Make your Photoshop canvas size the size you need for printing and then fill in the blanks. You might have to do a little additional editing


Good advice!

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Mar 16, 2020 07:38:48   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
If we can assume that you're not specifying gallery wrap, and if the printer isn't capable of printing to a 3x2 aspect ratio, you're left with PP to provide an answer. Content aware fill, as already suggested, is a good answer. Another possibility is to use the Transform tool to stretch the aspect ratio to 5x4 (that would require a vertical stretch). Even to your eye it would look OK, and anybody who hasn't seen the original would be none the wiser.

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Mar 16, 2020 07:40:00   #
bleirer
 
Another option is to use a print company that has the size you need, Bay photo for example has the 3:2 ratio or many other ratios, or custom. So if you shot is in a 2 to 3 height to width ratio, multiply both by the same number, 2 times 5 and 3 times 5 gives 10 by 15, or 2 times 7 and 3 times 7 gives 14 by 21, etc. Use a solid color border so the wings don't get wrapped.

Scroll almost to the bottom here for sizes and prices. Not cheap, but worth the money.
https://www.bayphoto.com/wall-displays/canvas-prints/canvas-wraps/

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Mar 16, 2020 07:47:08   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Capn_Dave wrote:
If you use Photoshop there is a feature called Content Aware fill. Make your Photoshop canvas size the size you need for printing and then fill in the blanks. You might have to do a little additional editing




This would be my suggestion as well.

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Mar 16, 2020 07:50:20   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Grahame wrote:
Are you sure you are selecting a 3:2 ratio (which the image posted is) when having it printed?

For a canvas, if the edges are going to be wrapped around a frame/board you will need to add extra to the edges, I'm sure you are aware.


Aside from the loss from "gallery wrap" You're most likely looking at a different aspect ratio than what the image was created.

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Mar 16, 2020 07:53:05   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
nikon_jon wrote:
... The labs at Walgreens, and other consumer photo processors can't do that. You can get it done at labs that cater to professional photogs...
As Grahame pointed out, the picture is 3:2 aspect. My Walgreen's offers 8x12 prints, as does Costco, along with the larger ones in the 3:2 ratio. It has been a common print aspect (maybe starting with 4x6?) for more than a decade.

If 5x7, 8x10 or 11x14 is desired, in addition to the suggestions already given in the thread, you can add space (white, black or your choice), to any side and write a caption, poem, etc. Here's an example. The original 3:2 image now fits into an 8x10 frame.



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Mar 16, 2020 08:04:13   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
My Walgreen's offers 8x12 prints, as does Costco, along with the larger ones in the 3:2 ratio. It is a common size these days.

If 5x7, 8x10 or 11x14 is desired, in addition to the suggestions already given in the thread, you can add space (white, black or your choice), to any side (or equally) and write a caption, poem, etc. Here's an example. The original 3:2 image now fits into an 8x10 frame.


Good idea! The caption, however, should not be:

"Photo of some random heron to which I added this caption to avoid having the wingtips clipped off"

Or maybe it should for fun and creating a conversation piece.

Sorry. I still need my coffee.

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Mar 16, 2020 08:22:25   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Good idea! The caption, however, should not be:

"Photo of some random heron to which I added this caption to avoid having the wingtips clipped off"

Or maybe it should for fun and creating a conversation piece.

Sorry. I still need my coffee.



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Mar 16, 2020 08:35:26   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
nikon_jon wrote:
You are dealing with what is called format clash. The height to width ratio of 8x10 and 5x7 and other size prints are not the same as the height to width ratio of the sensor in the camera. The same thing happened often with 35mm in film photography. Often the photographer would fill his frame when shooting the pic, only to find that when it was printed on the standard size papers, he would have to crop something off to make it fit. One solution is to have it printed 'full format'. That means printing everything that is in the frame. When you do this, your print will not be standard size. The labs at Walgreens, and other consumer photo processors can't do that. You can get it done at labs that cater to professional photogs.

Another solution is to give your subject a little more space in the frame when you shoot it. This allows for printing without cropping off things you would really like to have in the picture when it is printed. In times past, portrait photographers who used 35mm had to do this. Otherwise when the printed to standard sizes, they would crop off the tops of heads, ears or chins when they printed the pics.
You are dealing with what is called format clash. ... (show quote)


Correct. But standard size is 8x12 or some other 3:2 ratio today. At least for normal APS-C or FF cameras. PnS, and other smaller format cameras are different, possibly 4:3. I usually shoot leaving plenty of cropping space around my subject. Film 35mm is actually an image of 24x36mm as is a FF digital camera, i.e., 2:3. Strange how standard picture sizes dont match. Things might be less confusing with medium format 1:1 or 6x6cm or 2.25x2.25 inch like a Rolleiflex.

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Mar 16, 2020 08:55:37   #
bleirer
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
As Grahame pointed out, the picture is 3:2 aspect. My Walgreen's offers 8x12 prints, as does Costco, along with the larger ones in the 3:2 ratio. It has been a common print aspect (maybe starting with 4x6?) for more than a decade.

If 5x7, 8x10 or 11x14 is desired, in addition to the suggestions already given in the thread, you can add space (white, black or your choice), to any side and write a caption, poem, etc. Here's an example. The original 3:2 image now fits into an 8x10 frame.


I'm thinking I would not want to have text on a canvas in my living room, so to me it idepends on the print type and what the OP wants to use it for. Of course if the OP has the chops to add text, they have the chops to add grass or sky to change the print ratio.

The problem is canvas sizes from drug stores and Costco, etc, is restricted, while dedicated printing companies will have the right size. Why compromise to save a few dollars, the OP will look at that print twice a day and wish they did it the way they originally envisioned it.

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