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Sep 25, 2012 14:12:16   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
BboH wrote:
RixPix - are you a member of the ACLU, the aethist community or some other anti-religious communnity who desire to tear religion down for all?


I believe that all religions that create issues that can not be resolved peacefully should be dismantled.

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Sep 25, 2012 14:15:04   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Drigby1 wrote:
The charitable work of churches would be hindered. They do much more good with their money than the government ever would. They actually help the poor. And what about separation of church and state. Woops I guess that would completely change that wouldn't it. Nice try, but please leave the churches alone and have the government practice restraint.
The government is like a toddler who isn't restrained. A walking disaster area with a boat load of crap.


Those who are truly charitable will continue to do charitable work. There is a portion of the psyche that is active in those that seek to help others. They will find their funding in those that truly want to help. This is the basis of self-reliance...the pull yourself up the boot strap philosophy of the Conservative movement.

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Sep 25, 2012 16:24:21   #
Drigby1 Loc: American Fork, UT
 
So what about welfare recipients if they make a statement on politics? Should their exemptions by gone also?

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Sep 25, 2012 16:48:27   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
How about when actors/actresses support political causes? Should the party they support have the money for time of the actors/actresses/ applied to their campaign finance limitations? What with the audience they reach & influence & they amount of money they command for their movies, methinks the amount of exposure they produce should count as campaign contributions & subject to the same rules as cash...After all , they have a pulpit unlike the average person has...

wbym300 wrote:
Yes many churches do much with the money they receive from donors, however...when the church starts ANY sort of political leanings, teachings, anything that deals with any sort of political buzzsaw the tax exempt status should be gone.

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Sep 25, 2012 17:28:12   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
How about when actors/actresses support political causes? Should the party they support have the money for time of the actors/actresses/ applied to their campaign finance limitations? What with the audience they reach & influence & they amount of money they command for their movies, methinks the amount of exposure they produce should count as campaign contributions & subject to the same rules as cash...After all , they have a pulpit unlike the average person has...

wbym300 wrote:
Yes many churches do much with the money they receive from donors, however...when the church starts ANY sort of political leanings, teachings, anything that deals with any sort of political buzzsaw the tax exempt status should be gone.
How about when actors/actresses support political ... (show quote)


Yes, how about those celebrities using their influence...oh wait, that's the Republicans...Eastwood, Schwarzenegger, Jesse Ventura...Ha ha. The Republican party is a tightly woven fabric where each thread is part of the whole they need only a bright color to the fabric to gain attention...the celebrity candidate...How about those celebrities with influence oh, that's right most were one term...and for that we are truly thankful.

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Sep 25, 2012 17:29:40   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Let me get my hip boots out, the BS your spewing is getting pretty deep

RixPix wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
How about when actors/actresses support political causes? Should the party they support have the money for time of the actors/actresses/ applied to their campaign finance limitations? What with the audience they reach & influence & they amount of money they command for their movies, methinks the amount of exposure they produce should count as campaign contributions & subject to the same rules as cash...After all , they have a pulpit unlike the average person has...

wbym300 wrote:
Yes many churches do much with the money they receive from donors, however...when the church starts ANY sort of political leanings, teachings, anything that deals with any sort of political buzzsaw the tax exempt status should be gone.
How about when actors/actresses support political ... (show quote)


Yes, how about those celebrities using their influence...oh wait, that's the Republicans...Eastwood, Schwarzenegger, Jesse Ventura...Ha ha. The Republican party is a tightly woven fabric where each thread is part of the whole they need only a bright color to the fabric to gain attention...the celebrity candidate...How about those celebrities with influence oh, that's right most were one term...and for that we are truly thankful.
quote=Screamin Scott How about when actors/actres... (show quote)

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Sep 25, 2012 17:51:52   #
PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North
 
RixPix wrote:
BboH wrote:
RixPix - are you a member of the ACLU, the aethist community or some other anti-religious communnity who desire to tear religion down for all?


I believe that all religions that create issues that can not be resolved peacefully should be dismantled.


Would you apply a similar remedy to unions, ethnic organizations or fraternal organizations that create issues that can not be resolved peacefully?

If they have created issues that can not be resolved peacefully then there must be an antagonist organization with the polar opposite issues. Would you apply a similar remedy to them?

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Sep 25, 2012 19:26:53   #
wingincamera Loc: Spanaway, Washington
 
I think we are going to need more than 71 billion dollars. Our country is about to follow Greece. Just a matter of time. Here is a link with some sobering info.
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/EW5IdwltaAc?rel=0

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Sep 25, 2012 20:11:24   #
micro Loc: Texas
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
RixPix wrote:
It seems that every day someone posts something about the national debt and how much things like Medicare drains our resources. Well here's a quick and easy solution...eliminate the tax deduction (just like the Republicans want to do) without actually raising the tax rates....


LOL that is 17 days of Obama's deficit spending or just about a weeks worth of overall federal spending...

Beyond the numbers is the community services that churches and their affiliated organizations provide to their local communities, I would say that the tax expenditures on these exemptions is some of the best local spending that the federal government does... Just think about the democratic support coming from many churches RixPix, I would think that alone would soften your objections.
quote=RixPix It seems that every day someone post... (show quote)


In case you've forgotten, but much of the "so called" Obama deficit are:
- Bush's unfunded wars
- Bush's unfunded medicare drug plan
- Bush's unfunded tax cuts
(most amazing is "deficit hawk" Ryan voted for all of them)
- digging out of Bush's recession

Just saying!

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Sep 25, 2012 20:48:01   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Thing is, Obama knew about them yet still made claims to be able to rectify them & failed to do so...

micro wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
RixPix wrote:
It seems that every day someone posts something about the national debt and how much things like Medicare drains our resources. Well here's a quick and easy solution...eliminate the tax deduction (just like the Republicans want to do) without actually raising the tax rates....


LOL that is 17 days of Obama's deficit spending or just about a weeks worth of overall federal spending...

Beyond the numbers is the community services that churches and their affiliated organizations provide to their local communities, I would say that the tax expenditures on these exemptions is some of the best local spending that the federal government does... Just think about the democratic support coming from many churches RixPix, I would think that alone would soften your objections.
quote=RixPix It seems that every day someone post... (show quote)


In case you've forgotten, but much of the "so called" Obama deficit are:
- Bush's unfunded wars
- Bush's unfunded medicare drug plan
- Bush's unfunded tax cuts
(most amazing is "deficit hawk" Ryan voted for all of them)
- digging out of Bush's recession

Just saying!
quote=Blurryeyed quote=RixPix It seems that ever... (show quote)

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Sep 25, 2012 21:01:55   #
micro Loc: Texas
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Thing is, Obama knew about them yet still made claims to be able to rectify them & failed to do so...

micro wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
RixPix wrote:
It seems that every day someone posts something about the national debt and how much things like Medicare drains our resources. Well here's a quick and easy solution...eliminate the tax deduction (just like the Republicans want to do) without actually raising the tax rates....


LOL that is 17 days of Obama's deficit spending or just about a weeks worth of overall federal spending...

Beyond the numbers is the community services that churches and their affiliated organizations provide to their local communities, I would say that the tax expenditures on these exemptions is some of the best local spending that the federal government does... Just think about the democratic support coming from many churches RixPix, I would think that alone would soften your objections.
quote=RixPix It seems that every day someone post... (show quote)


In case you've forgotten, but much of the "so called" Obama deficit are:
- Bush's unfunded wars
- Bush's unfunded medicare drug plan
- Bush's unfunded tax cuts
(most amazing is "deficit hawk" Ryan voted for all of them)
- digging out of Bush's recession

Just saying!
quote=Blurryeyed quote=RixPix It seems that ever... (show quote)
Thing is, Obama knew about them yet still made cla... (show quote)


We'll have to disagree on that one. From my perspective, things are much better today, than they were 4 years ago.
If Obama miscalculated anything, it was the finatical dogma of the Tea Party and Grover Norquest servants. I'm confident that my opinion will be verified by the president being reelected.

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Sep 25, 2012 21:04:55   #
wbym300 Loc: Wisconsin
 
micro wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
RixPix wrote:
It seems that every day someone posts something about the national debt and how much things like Medicare drains our resources. Well here's a quick and easy solution...eliminate the tax deduction (just like the Republicans want to do) without actually raising the tax rates....


LOL that is 17 days of Obama's deficit spending or just about a weeks worth of overall federal spending...

Beyond the numbers is the community services that churches and their affiliated organizations provide to their local communities, I would say that the tax expenditures on these exemptions is some of the best local spending that the federal government does... Just think about the democratic support coming from many churches RixPix, I would think that alone would soften your objections.
quote=RixPix It seems that every day someone post... (show quote)


In case you've forgotten, but much of the "so called" Obama deficit are:
- Bush's unfunded wars
- Bush's unfunded medicare drug plan
- Bush's unfunded tax cuts
(most amazing is "deficit hawk" Ryan voted for all of them)
- digging out of Bush's recession

Just saying!
quote=Blurryeyed quote=RixPix It seems that ever... (show quote)


Alright... Bush is evil, so what, we are still facing massive crushing debt. Ignoring it will only get us over the cliff faster. What in the name of the great Obama is going to be done differently now that wasn't done when Obama had a super majority for 2008-2009. Tell me... ANYBODY WHO SUPPORTS THIS JERK... what has he said that he will do to fix the mess. Show me his history of financial leadership that will steer us out of this mess.

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Sep 25, 2012 21:14:15   #
micro Loc: Texas
 
wbym300 wrote:
micro wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
RixPix wrote:
It seems that every day someone posts something about the national debt and how much things like Medicare drains our resources. Well here's a quick and easy solution...eliminate the tax deduction (just like the Republicans want to do) without actually raising the tax rates....


LOL that is 17 days of Obama's deficit spending or just about a weeks worth of overall federal spending...

Beyond the numbers is the community services that churches and their affiliated organizations provide to their local communities, I would say that the tax expenditures on these exemptions is some of the best local spending that the federal government does... Just think about the democratic support coming from many churches RixPix, I would think that alone would soften your objections.
quote=RixPix It seems that every day someone post... (show quote)


In case you've forgotten, but much of the "so called" Obama deficit are:
- Bush's unfunded wars
- Bush's unfunded medicare drug plan
- Bush's unfunded tax cuts
(most amazing is "deficit hawk" Ryan voted for all of them)
- digging out of Bush's recession

Just saying!
quote=Blurryeyed quote=RixPix It seems that ever... (show quote)


Alright... Bush is evil, so what, we are still facing massive crushing debt. Ignoring it will only get us over the cliff faster. What in the name of the great Obama is going to be done differently now that wasn't done when Obama had a super majority for 2008-2009. Tell me... ANYBODY WHO SUPPORTS THIS JERK... what has he said that he will do to fix the mess. Show me his history of financial leadership that will steer us out of this mess.
quote=micro quote=Blurryeyed quote=RixPix It se... (show quote)


To begin with, the Dems only had a "super majority" for a few months (Al Franken was not seated for several months - election recount, Ted Kennedy took ill shortly after).
Secondiy, you want to elect a Jerk who would further lower taxes and reduce regulation. What didn't we learn the first time around?

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Sep 25, 2012 23:25:18   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
PrairieSeasons wrote:
RixPix wrote:
BboH wrote:
RixPix - are you a member of the ACLU, the aethist community or some other anti-religious communnity who desire to tear religion down for all?


I believe that all religions that create issues that can not be resolved peacefully should be dismantled.


Would you apply a similar remedy to unions, ethnic organizations or fraternal organizations that create issues that can not be resolved peacefully?

If they have created issues that can not be resolved peacefully then there must be an antagonist organization with the polar opposite issues. Would you apply a similar remedy to them?
quote=RixPix quote=BboH RixPix - are you a membe... (show quote)


I can see how you could jump to that conclusion. However, their is not the chance of an extinction level event being caused by a labor dispute as in the case of the wackos who imagine themselves imbued with divine guidance

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Sep 25, 2012 23:58:15   #
PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North
 
RixPix wrote:
PrairieSeasons wrote:
RixPix wrote:
BboH wrote:
RixPix - are you a member of the ACLU, the aethist community or some other anti-religious communnity who desire to tear religion down for all?


I believe that all religions that create issues that can not be resolved peacefully should be dismantled.


Would you apply a similar remedy to unions, ethnic organizations or fraternal organizations that create issues that can not be resolved peacefully?

If they have created issues that can not be resolved peacefully then there must be an antagonist organization with the polar opposite issues. Would you apply a similar remedy to them?
quote=RixPix quote=BboH RixPix - are you a membe... (show quote)


I can see how you could jump to that conclusion. However, their is not the chance of an extinction level event being caused by a labor dispute as in the case of the wackos who imagine themselves imbued with divine guidance
quote=PrairieSeasons quote=RixPix quote=BboH Ri... (show quote)


Fair enough - maybe. I see only one religion whose adherents pose the threat of an extinction level event in the world today.

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