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Mar 15, 2020 13:20:16   #
gmango85
 
I have used FF almost exclusively until I purchased a Canon 7D II. Love that camera but gave it to my son. I often borrow it as it is a joy to use. Best ergonomics for me.

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Mar 15, 2020 13:20:46   #
CWGordon
 
As usual, CHG Canon got right to the point; cut through all the ๐Ÿ’ฉ.
His remark, right before this (my) one says in one sentence that which myself and others need paragraphs to state.

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Mar 15, 2020 13:22:31   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Today how many of us have a 427 V8. I bet most would have even less than a V6.


Many drag racers.

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Mar 15, 2020 13:31:08   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Your all arguing about the quality of the painters brush. Yes if itโ€™s coming apart and leaving strands in the paint that will mess up the painting. And of course there is softness, size, flow characteristics, to consider. But give the same brush to two painters, one skilled the other not, what will happen? Same thing with camera bodies, and lenses.

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Mar 15, 2020 13:51:49   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
cedymock wrote:
Think this question may help some folks trying to decide which camera to buy.
Photographers that used APS-C then moved to FF would you go back to APS-C?
Keeping in mind professionals may use both, you could only choose crop sensor or FF.
As for me I have seen no evidence that would lead me back to a crop sensor.


I use both full frame and APS-C cameras.

APS-C... 90 to 95% of the time.
Full frame... 5 to 10%.

If I had to choose only one or the other, it would definitely be APS-C.

I do a lot of sports shooting... as well as quite a bit of birds and wildlife... and that means telephotos. Using APS-C allows me to use smaller, lighter telephotos that... in tun... allow me to be more mobile. (I've got a couple of the "big lenses", but there are often times I prefer to not use them.)

APS-C cameras have improved dramatically over the last ten or fifteen years... My current APS-C make usable images at ISOs higher than was possible with full frame a couple generations ago. Today I use APS-C that have as much resolution as some older full frame and are only slightly lower than many current models... In fact, if I wanted I could buy an APS-C today that's got more resolution than many current FF.

This is not to say there aren't some things that full frame is good at... preferable even. I still use mine for macro and portraits... and the occasional landscape or architectural shot. For depth of field control (both shallow and deep, large aperture and small)... and for really high ISO/low light.... FF still has an edge over crop cameras.

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Mar 15, 2020 14:10:37   #
Vlemasters
 
I will not go back. In fact have my 77d up for sale

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Mar 15, 2020 14:40:12   #
ecurb Loc: Metro Chicago Area
 
Longshadow wrote:
What about the mind?


Mind = processor
The mind is the penultimate processor

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Mar 15, 2020 15:02:34   #
Ollieboy
 
JD750 wrote:
Your all arguing about the quality of the painters brush. Yes if itโ€™s coming apart and leaving strands in the paint that will mess up the painting. And of course there is softness, size, flow characteristics, to consider. But give the same brush to two painters, one skilled the other not, what will happen? Same thing with camera bodies, and lenses.


๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

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Mar 15, 2020 15:06:39   #
Angmo
 
I was a 35mm and 6x6 medium format film user.

Went digital years ago and currently have a D850. Am presently looking to get a MF digital camera. The D850 is superb, but Iโ€™m looking to get a bit more out of an image.

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Mar 15, 2020 15:07:03   #
cmaxi
 
I have had both and the Fuji APS-C produces the best results I have ever experienced. Nothing comes close. Especially the Fuji film simulations. The colors. You can't get them anywhere else no matter how much you spend or how much extra weight you want to carry around. Check out Zack Arias' YouTube labeled "Crop or Crap" or something like that. With the new technologies that are emerging, FF is becoming something of a joke. Look at some of the fabulous images made nowadays with phones! I don't believe that they are FF sensors! I envision the APS-C sensors having the same sort of competition in the future. FF is a great triumph of slick marketing. Cameras as jewelry.

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Mar 15, 2020 15:14:18   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
Nope, not going back. Have D800e and D850, use both and keep a D300 for a just in case.....

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Mar 15, 2020 15:22:27   #
Angmo
 
cambriaman wrote:
Nope, not going back. Have D800e and D850, use both and keep a D300 for a just in case.....


Iโ€™ve got a D300 too. Since I can change the D850 format or toss on a DX lens and shoot at 20mb the D300 has become a dust collector. Really liked the D300, but may as well sell it.

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Mar 15, 2020 15:58:16   #
CWGordon
 
Anything that can be done in a cell phone sensor or an APS-C sensor can surely be topped by a full-frame sensor. That is only common-sense. I am not saying that you cannot get great images with a cell-phone or crop sensor. I am saying the sensor-size has to be one of the factors in the equation. Of course the photographer makes a difference, as well. The lens is another factor. Good lenses will โ€œhelpโ€ any sensor. A poor quality lens will not maximize any sensor. The photographer is the most variable of the factors. The lens used will affect how much of a lenses potential is realized. Size of the sensor does not, in and of itself, create quality. However, if two sensors of equal quality are of different sizes, why would you not accept that the larger would provide the better image?

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Mar 15, 2020 16:38:47   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
cedymock wrote:
Think this question may help some folks trying to decide which camera to buy.
Photographers that used APS-C then moved to FF would you go back to APS-C?
Keeping in mind professionals may use both, you could only choose crop sensor or FF.
As for me I have seen no evidence that would lead me back to a crop sensor.


I keep both cameras, but only have FF lenses that way for wildlife shots I increase the crop factor by 1.5 (Nikon) for the crop cameras.

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Mar 15, 2020 17:16:52   #
cmaxi
 
Sensor size is such a tiny part of the photographic experience. I will admit that I am highly prejudiced. I recently converted to using Fuji X-T and X-E series. The cameras themselves are a joy to use. The images are exemplary. They compare to Canon and Nikon like a Porsche compares to a Chevy Suburban - both good in their own right but both offering vastly different things to different people. Fuji colors are incredible and not available with any other brand. Canon and Nikon are stuck in the past.

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