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Mar 14, 2020 20:08:44   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
Perhaps the best lens for some portraits is not the sharpest! In the 1930's photographers used lenses that were soft. Older ladies wrinkles were not so pronounced. I have a Spiretone portrait lens for 35mm that is 100mm f/4 only and sharp in the center going to soft on the edges. I like it. I also put a 135mm view camera lens from 1910 that gives a good old fashion look on my DLSR with bellows. Sometimes you must look outside the box. - Dave

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Mar 14, 2020 20:18:39   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
wilsondl2 wrote:
..I have a Spiretone portrait lens for 35mm that is 100mm f/4 only and sharp in the center going to soft on the edges. - Dave


The Portragon! A true fixed aperture lens.

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Mar 15, 2020 07:31:13   #
Linda S.
 
rmalarz wrote:
"...The choice of lens is based on how well I know the person I'm photographing."
--Bob


Hello! I find your comment intriguing. I am an avid amateur. Would you please explain how a best friend or a stranger might require a different lens if all other photographic factors (light, location, etc.) were the same?

Many thanks in advance.

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Mar 15, 2020 07:32:47   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
camerapapi wrote:
A known professional photographer here in Miami, a good friend for many years, asked my opinion about the 85 mm f1.8 Nikon lens. He told me he was interested in improving his portraits and needed a good portrait lens. I know he owns a Nikon two touch 80-200 f2.8 and I asked him if there was something wrong with his lens. He said no.
I cannot understand why you need a “better” lens for portraits having the excellent 80-200 f2.8 was my reply. Perhaps you meant portability? No was his answer. He was after a “better” lens for portraits and portability was not his priority.

I am no professional photographer although years ago I made a part time living as a professional. My portrait lens of preference has always been the Nikon 105 mm f2.5 and mine is from 1969, single coated, a lens that has served me well and continues to do so.
Perhaps I do not have the right answer but my feelings are that the best lens for portraits is the lens that you happen to have in your camera when you are shooting. Even a wide angle with its distortions of facial features could be exactly what you want. I do not know of your expertise as a photographer and I do not know what your artistic style is.

I asked this young man to pose for me. It is an indoor shot with the model looking into a window facing south. The lens I had in my Olympus OM-10 Mk II was the 40-150 f4-5.6 kit lens. I have the 12-40 f2.8 Pro, a better lens and a Sigma 60mm f2.8 Art which is a very sharp lens for micro fourth thirds but it was the 40-150 lens what I had in my camera. I simply set it at 100 mm and opened it up to its maximum opening. I could be too old and too lazy by now but I though the kit lens could do a good job. I went with ISO 400.

Technically there are some things I could have done for a better portrait like selecting a better lens. I could have used a reflector to bring more light into the shadow areas although I like it like it is. Even a low intensity hair light could have been effective but available light was all I had in mind. I did not pose him and let the young man to show his spontaneity.

I tend to warm a little bit my b&w images to simulate the Agfa warm tone fiber base paper I used in the past. I kept sharpening to the lowest setting. I like to add contrast to my b&w images. Original RAW data edited with Olympus Workspace and Affinity Photo.
Which lens for portraits? A dedicated portrait lens between 85-135 mm is an excellent choice but if you do not have the budget use good techniques and the lens you have now in your camera. You could be pleasantly surprised at the results.
A known professional photographer here in Miami, a... (show quote)


When I shot portraits for a living my go to portrait lens was the Nikon 70-200 2.8. I still have the latest version of this lens and I still like the results.

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Mar 15, 2020 07:41:12   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
I use the 85mm 1.4, the 105mm 1.4, and the 70-200mm 2.8 for portraits.
But what do I know?—I’m no pro.

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Mar 15, 2020 08:15:54   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
wilsondl2 wrote:
Perhaps the best lens for some portraits is not the sharpest! In the 1930's photographers used lenses that were soft. Older ladies wrinkles were not so pronounced. I have a Spiretone portrait lens for 35mm that is 100mm f/4 only and sharp in the center going to soft on the edges. I like it. I also put a 135mm view camera lens from 1910 that gives a good old fashion look on my DLSR with bellows. Sometimes you must look outside the box. - Dave


Concur, "Perhaps the best lens for some portraits is not the sharpest!"
Anyone with less than perfect complexion desires less, not more!
Smile,
JimmyT Sends

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Mar 15, 2020 08:31:55   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
camerapapi wrote:
A known professional photographer here in Miami, a good friend for many years, asked my opinion about the 85 mm f1.8 Nikon lens. He told me he was interested in improving his portraits and needed a good portrait lens. I know he owns a Nikon two touch 80-200 f2.8 and I asked him if there was something wrong with his lens. He said no.
I cannot understand why you need a “better” lens for portraits having the excellent 80-200 f2.8 was my reply. Perhaps you meant portability? No was his answer. He was after a “better” lens for portraits and portability was not his priority.

I am no professional photographer although years ago I made a part time living as a professional. My portrait lens of preference has always been the Nikon 105 mm f2.5 and mine is from 1969, single coated, a lens that has served me well and continues to do so.
Perhaps I do not have the right answer but my feelings are that the best lens for portraits is the lens that you happen to have in your camera when you are shooting. Even a wide angle with its distortions of facial features could be exactly what you want. I do not know of your expertise as a photographer and I do not know what your artistic style is.

I asked this young man to pose for me. It is an indoor shot with the model looking into a window facing south. The lens I had in my Olympus OM-10 Mk II was the 40-150 f4-5.6 kit lens. I have the 12-40 f2.8 Pro, a better lens and a Sigma 60mm f2.8 Art which is a very sharp lens for micro fourth thirds but it was the 40-150 lens what I had in my camera. I simply set it at 100 mm and opened it up to its maximum opening. I could be too old and too lazy by now but I though the kit lens could do a good job. I went with ISO 400.

Technically there are some things I could have done for a better portrait like selecting a better lens. I could have used a reflector to bring more light into the shadow areas although I like it like it is. Even a low intensity hair light could have been effective but available light was all I had in mind. I did not pose him and let the young man to show his spontaneity.

I tend to warm a little bit my b&w images to simulate the Agfa warm tone fiber base paper I used in the past. I kept sharpening to the lowest setting. I like to add contrast to my b&w images. Original RAW data edited with Olympus Workspace and Affinity Photo.
Which lens for portraits? A dedicated portrait lens between 85-135 mm is an excellent choice but if you do not have the budget use good techniques and the lens you have now in your camera. You could be pleasantly surprised at the results.
A known professional photographer here in Miami, a... (show quote)


I use Canon but I find my EF 70-200 f2.8 to be awesome for portraits

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Mar 15, 2020 08:40:06   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Jimmy T wrote:
Concur, "Perhaps the best lens for some portraits is not the sharpest!"
Anyone with less than perfect complexion desires less, not more!
Smile,
JimmyT Sends


Fixing complexion is the job of post. Complexion cannot be fixed correctly by a less than sharp lens. Besides, I do not know of any less than sharp lenses in today's digital age.

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Mar 15, 2020 09:05:02   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
camerapapi wrote:
A known professional photographer here in Miami, a good friend for many years, asked my opinion about the 85 mm f1.8 Nikon lens. He told me he was interested in improving his portraits and needed a good portrait lens. I know he owns a Nikon two touch 80-200 f2.8 and I asked him if there was something wrong with his lens. He said no.
I cannot understand why you need a “better” lens for portraits having the excellent 80-200 f2.8 was my reply. Perhaps you meant portability? No was his answer. He was after a “better” lens for portraits and portability was not his priority.

I am no professional photographer although years ago I made a part time living as a professional. My portrait lens of preference has always been the Nikon 105 mm f2.5 and mine is from 1969, single coated, a lens that has served me well and continues to do so.
Perhaps I do not have the right answer but my feelings are that the best lens for portraits is the lens that you happen to have in your camera when you are shooting. Even a wide angle with its distortions of facial features could be exactly what you want. I do not know of your expertise as a photographer and I do not know what your artistic style is.

I asked this young man to pose for me. It is an indoor shot with the model looking into a window facing south. The lens I had in my Olympus OM-10 Mk II was the 40-150 f4-5.6 kit lens. I have the 12-40 f2.8 Pro, a better lens and a Sigma 60mm f2.8 Art which is a very sharp lens for micro fourth thirds but it was the 40-150 lens what I had in my camera. I simply set it at 100 mm and opened it up to its maximum opening. I could be too old and too lazy by now but I though the kit lens could do a good job. I went with ISO 400.

Technically there are some things I could have done for a better portrait like selecting a better lens. I could have used a reflector to bring more light into the shadow areas although I like it like it is. Even a low intensity hair light could have been effective but available light was all I had in mind. I did not pose him and let the young man to show his spontaneity.

I tend to warm a little bit my b&w images to simulate the Agfa warm tone fiber base paper I used in the past. I kept sharpening to the lowest setting. I like to add contrast to my b&w images. Original RAW data edited with Olympus Workspace and Affinity Photo.
Which lens for portraits? A dedicated portrait lens between 85-135 mm is an excellent choice but if you do not have the budget use good techniques and the lens you have now in your camera. You could be pleasantly surprised at the results.
A known professional photographer here in Miami, a... (show quote)


Thank you so much for your thoughts on this topic. Your words are True and the portrait is simply Wonderful and your logic is genuine. I ,too , often feel as though we over-stress many of the issues in these areas of preference and it chokes us almost to a similar example like defying gravity or anything against or other than the natural order of things. Thank you for your wisdom and thoughtful words.

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Mar 15, 2020 09:06:41   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
I knew a pro photographer, who was hired to do portraits of WW2 and Korean War Veterans, at an annual picnic. He used a Nikon D810 with a Nikon 70-200mm f2.8. His wife backed him up, when it became demanding, using a D750 with a Nikon 24-70mm f2.8. The photos taken with the Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 were impressive. It, was then, I realized, that the 70-200mm f2.8, is a good for portraits, and not just for fast action sports. Other non professional photographers in attendance there. And not hired to do photos, were using crop sensor DSLRs of various name Brands, had everything from kit lenses, 18-55mm, 50mm, and even Bridge cameras. I used both a Nikon 18-55mm and a Nikon 50mm f1.8G, for portraits when I was there. On a DX camera. I had to make those two lenses work. Even though, they were not the Best. I'm wishing for a Nikon 85mm f1.8G, to have as a portrait lens. I've already checked the reviews on that lens. Positive.

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Mar 15, 2020 09:22:48   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
billnikon wrote:
Fixing complexion is the job of post. Complexion cannot be fixed correctly by a less than sharp lens. Besides, I do not know of any less than sharp lenses in today's digital age.


I didn't say that "complexion could be fixed by a less than sharp lens".

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Mar 15, 2020 09:32:45   #
ppkwhat Loc: Gibsonton, FL
 
camerapapi wrote:
A known professional photographer here in Miami, a good friend for many years, asked my opinion about the 85 mm f1.8 Nikon lens. He told me he was interested in improving his portraits and needed a good portrait lens. I know he owns a Nikon two touch 80-200 f2.8 and I asked him if there was something wrong with his lens. He said no.
I cannot understand why you need a “better” lens for portraits having the excellent 80-200 f2.8 was my reply. Perhaps you meant portability? No was his answer. He was after a “better” lens for portraits and portability was not his priority.

I am no professional photographer although years ago I made a part time living as a professional. My portrait lens of preference has always been the Nikon 105 mm f2.5 and mine is from 1969, single coated, a lens that has served me well and continues to do so.
Perhaps I do not have the right answer but my feelings are that the best lens for portraits is the lens that you happen to have in your camera when you are shooting. Even a wide angle with its distortions of facial features could be exactly what you want. I do not know of your expertise as a photographer and I do not know what your artistic style is.

I asked this young man to pose for me. It is an indoor shot with the model looking into a window facing south. The lens I had in my Olympus OM-10 Mk II was the 40-150 f4-5.6 kit lens. I have the 12-40 f2.8 Pro, a better lens and a Sigma 60mm f2.8 Art which is a very sharp lens for micro fourth thirds but it was the 40-150 lens what I had in my camera. I simply set it at 100 mm and opened it up to its maximum opening. I could be too old and too lazy by now but I though the kit lens could do a good job. I went with ISO 400.

Technically there are some things I could have done for a better portrait like selecting a better lens. I could have used a reflector to bring more light into the shadow areas although I like it like it is. Even a low intensity hair light could have been effective but available light was all I had in mind. I did not pose him and let the young man to show his spontaneity.

I tend to warm a little bit my b&w images to simulate the Agfa warm tone fiber base paper I used in the past. I kept sharpening to the lowest setting. I like to add contrast to my b&w images. Original RAW data edited with Olympus Workspace and Affinity Photo.
Which lens for portraits? A dedicated portrait lens between 85-135 mm is an excellent choice but if you do not have the budget use good techniques and the lens you have now in your camera. You could be pleasantly surprised at the results.
A known professional photographer here in Miami, a... (show quote)


camerapapi, I normally use my AF-S Micro Nikkor 105mm 1:2.8 G ED for my portraits and I'm extremely satisfied with the results I get. By design, I guess, the manufacturers produce "prime lens" in a way that they will get the best of the subject, as far as sharpness, than the zoom lenses. Not saying that the zoom lenses are no good, in fact most of them are excellent, but not as sharp as the "primes" even when used by the same photographer in the same lighting/subject situation.. I have all three Nikon macro lenses, the 60 mm, the 85mm and my favorite, the 105mm that gives me more "range" and versatility. These, however are my opinions - based in my years of photographing. (I'm going on 77 yrs of age and the first photo I remember someone taking of me I was sitting on a wood bench at a Summer Campa when 10 yrs old and I had a Kodak "box" camera on my lap - so I've been "around" with cameras, but I don't consider myself a "professional" photographer. Cheers!

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Mar 15, 2020 09:34:44   #
HOHIMER
 
I use 135mm

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Mar 15, 2020 09:41:04   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
Longshadow wrote:
Many people want the BEST, some people want BETTER than best.

Some people may have the best, but are plagued by the question, "Is there something better?".
Those people will always be anxious and wondering. A few will let it eat at them.


Good answer!

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Mar 15, 2020 09:56:08   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Linda, the focal length of the lens determines the position of the camera to the subject to fill the frame appropriately. The longer focal lengths will place the camera further away from the subject but still produce the same size image on the film or sensor. Thus, someone who is familiar with me will not feel uncomfortable with the camera, and me, closer. For that, I'd use the 85mm lens. For someone who is unacquainted with me, I'd use the 135mm lens and place my self and the camera a bit further from the subject.

Providing a reasonable comfort zone for the subject allows for a more comfortable environment and a more natural-appearing portrait.
--Bob
Linda S. wrote:
Hello! I find your comment intriguing. I am an avid amateur. Would you please explain how a best friend or a stranger might require a different lens if all other photographic factors (light, location, etc.) were the same?

Many thanks in advance.

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