Mr.Ft wrote:
Hi, I'm looking at these 3 lens and am torn on which one to go with. I'm hoping someone may have experience with them. There are some obvious differences such as The Sigma does not offer a lens foot, weight, price ect. Any real life experience would be appreciated.
Thanks
Tom
Without a doubt... and putting weight and price aside... the Canon 100-400L II is the best of the three. It has better image quality, better build and is up to 2/3 stops faster than the 3rd party lenses.
All three lenses use fast ultrasonic focus drive and all three have effective image stabilization. The IS on the Canon is a significant upgrade from what was on the first "push/pull zoom" version of that lens.
The Canon is a bit bigger and heavier than the other two, but that's largely because it's a more robust lens. The guys at Lensrentals.com enjoy taking things apart just to see what's inside and when they did that with it they called the Canon 100-400L II "Over-engineered... the best built zoom lens we've ever seen!" (Note: That was before the Canon 200-400mm 1.4X Extender lens was introduced... that's probably even beefier!)
The Canon lens uses fluorite in its optical formula, which is especially effective reducing chromatic aberrations in telephoto lenses. Canon has long been a pioneer using fluorite in many of their lenses. In the 1970s and 1980s they developed means of growing artificial fluorite crystals that were large and pure enough for lenses, as well as new methods of working it into usable elements. Today many of Canon's lenses longer than 200mm use fluorite... more than any other manufacturer (Nikon recently revised a half dozen of their premium lenses to use it... but their prices for "FL" lenses is much higher than comparable Canon).
All three lenses are *not* internal zooming... they extend significantly when adjusted to longer focal lengths. This design allows them to be reasonable size and weight, though it does change balance slightly and that can be a consideration if using the lens on a gimbal.
All three lenses are variable aperture zooms. But they differ a lot in where in their focal length range the aperture steps down.
- The Canon lens:
--- f/4.5 from 100 to 134mm
--- f/5 from 135 to 311mm
--- f/5.6 from 312 to 400mm.
- The Tamron 100-400mm:
--- f/4.5 from 100 to 136mm
--- f/5 from 137 to 180mm
--- f/5.6 from 181 to 280mm
--- f/6.3 from 281 to 400mm.
- The Sigma 100-400mm:
--- f/5 from 100 to 111mm
--- f/5.6 from 112 to 233mm
--- f/6.3 from 234 to 400mm.
So while at first glance there doesn't appear to be a lot of difference, when you look deeper the Canon lens is 2/3 stop "faster" at many focal lengths. In challenging lighting conditions, it might be the difference between being able to get the shot or not. But it's also one reason the Canon lens is a little bigger and heavier. The Canon 100-400L II weighs about 3.75 lb., compared to approx. 3 lb. for the Tamron and roughly 2.7 lb. for the Sigma. The Canon uses 77mm filters, while the two 3rd party lenses use 67mm.
Another reason for the weight difference is that the Canon lens *includes* a tripod mounting ring, which I'd consider a necessity with a 400mm lens, even with highly effective IS. Though all these lenses can be hand held for a while, eventually your likely to want the relief of some sort of support. And with long telephotos like these, that's best done with a tripod ring. There is one available for the Tamron, sold separately (adds $129 to the cost of the lens).
In fact, the Tamron ring is a neat design... They've incorporated an Arca-Swiss compatible dovetail into it (as they are doing with the rings on all their recent lenses that use them). I wish Canon would do the same. The tripod ring "foot" for the Canon isn't an ideal fit for accessory Arca-Swiss lens mounting plates. But there are several manufacturers offering replacement feet with the built in dovetail, for not much more than the cost of one of those lens plates.
There isn't a tripod ring available for the Sigma and no effective means of fitting one. Someone in Germany was making a 3D printed ring for it, but it's plastic and due to the location of the lens' switches, only installs for horizontal/landscape orientation. It can't be rotated to vertical/portrait orientation, which is one of the primary purposes of a tripod ring.
While the Canon 100-400L II has the best image quality... To my eye the Sigma is 2nd best by a narrow margin over the Tamron. It's not a very noticeable difference... If I didn't use the Canon I'd buy the Tamron for it's tripod mounting ring option.
The 3rd party lenses are a lot less expensive than the Canon, even though it's currently on sale with a big discount ($1800 after $400 discount). If you use Arca-Swiss quick release system, figure $75 to $125 for a replacement foot for the Canon, too. The Tamron is selling for $800 and the tripod ring for it costs another $129. The Sigma is the least expensive now, on sale for $609 (after a $190 discount).
You won't find many people with hands on experience with all three lenses. Most, like me, looked closely at them in detail and made our choice. You can read full, detailed reviews of all three lenses at Bryan Carnathan's web site...
Canon 100-400L II:
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-100-400mm-f-4.5-5.6-L-IS-II-USM-Lens.aspxTamron 100-400mm:
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Tamron-100-400mm-f-4.5-6.3-Di-VC-USD-Lens.aspxSigma 100-400mm:
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Sigma-100-400mm-f-5-6.3-DG-OS-HSM-Contemporary-Lens.aspx At that web site, you also can compare the image quality of the three lenses side by side...
Canon vs Tamron:
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=972&Camera=979&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=1&LensComp=1178&CameraComp=979&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1Canon vs Sigma:
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=972&Camera=979&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=1&LensComp=1120&CameraComp=979&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0Tamron vs Sigma:
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=1178&Camera=979&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=1120&CameraComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0Note: All the above image quality comparisons show magnified test shots done with 50MP full frame 5Ds-R camera, which is very demanding of lenses. If using another camera and/or a differnet image sensor format, you may wish to change the camera selection. Also, you can do similar comparisons of other image qualities: flare, distortion and vignetting.
Hope this helps! Have fun shopping.