Swede
Loc: Trail, BC Canada
Definitely an unusual decision.
Turning lemons into lemonade? (Read there was low investor interest.)
Swede wrote:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/teck-frontier-trudeau-1.5473866?cmp=rss
I hope this is a sign of things to come! Very interesting read.
Hats off to Tech!!
Who just happens to be the major employer in our area.
Swede
Yep I hope it gets to the point where all gas stations have to close.
Jack47 wrote:
Yep I hope it gets to the point where all gas stations have to close.
Is that a windmill powered motorcycle you're driving?
Interesting article. I was recently on vacation and met a couple from Edmonton Canada. They were telling me that the decline of this industry has destroyed the economy in this area. They went on to say that one of the biggest problems with this type of "mining" is the waste products (very dirty sand) that ends up in gigantic tailings ponds. The costs to "reclaim" the land are thru the roof. Not only in dollars, but carbon emissions as well.
Jack47 wrote:
Yep I hope it gets to the point where all gas stations have to close.
Watch what you ask for and be specific. Some of the solutions are not any better than what we have. I live near an industrial wind project Hoosac Wind, the Neighbors from Hell and we are woken many nights from noise and vibrations. We used to live in a quiet rural neighborhood until the project was built. The mountain was blasted and bulldozed with thousands of trees gone along with the swamps and many of the animals no longer visit the ridge. The shame is the project will never pay for itself from electricity according to Iberdrola's figures. The profit is all in the subsidies which are substantial, not talking about the tax deductions that all companies receive. It's calculated that when manufacture, transportation, installation maintenance, and restoration after it's usefulness in 20 years, uses more energy than it will produce. In 4 years time 3 blades and gear box have been replaced with blades cut up and buried as they are not recycled.
cytafex wrote:
Watch what you ask for and be specific. Some of the solutions are not any better than what we have. I live near an industrial wind project Hoosac Wind, the Neighbors from Hell and we are woken many nights from noise and vibrations. We used to live in a quiet rural neighborhood until the project was built. The mountain was blasted and bulldozed with thousands of trees gone along with the swamps and many of the animals no longer visit the ridge. The shame is the project will never pay for itself from electricity according to Iberdrola's figures. The profit is all in the subsidies which are substantial, not talking about the tax deductions that all companies receive. It's calculated that when manufacture, transportation, installation maintenance, and restoration after it's usefulness in 20 years, uses more energy than it will produce. In 4 years time 3 blades and gear box have been replaced with blades cut up and buried as they are not recycled.
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Ahhh, but it’s not about energy, it’s about “feel good”....
mflowe wrote:
Is that a windmill powered motorcycle you're driving?
I don’t drive a motorcycle. The one in my pic is actually a piece of art and not a functioning cycle....nor was it ever. It was made from nuts, bolts, springs, odd pieces of metal and anything that was handy at the time and no, it wasn’t made by me. When I had my pic taken beside it there was a price tag of $25,000 on it.
Yes I use gas for my car but you won’t find me protesting against any pipeline or oil project.
People who do protest will be the loudest you hear if they do pull into a station one day and there is no gas.
In my reply to Swede I was being a little facetious 😄😄😄😄
Swede wrote:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/teck-frontier-trudeau-1.5473866?cmp=rss
I hope this is a sign of things to come! Very interesting read.
Hats off to Tech!!
Who just happens to be the major employer in our area.
Swede
I agree with you and hope the same (but hope is very small, as that has always been the downfall, usually greed always wins, I guess that's human "nature". In the past there were always some sign's of hope, only to be shattered again and again. To me it looks like humans will never learn, or are just refusing to re-think!
Much celebration about false assumptions regarding environmental decision making. In the case of tar sands, the US boom in fracking has dramatically lowered the cost of competitive fuels. With the US now energy independent, the market price for energy has dropped significantly, making the investment in new, relatively-expensive-to-produce oil from tar sands economically infeasible. In other words, the investors no longer believe they can make a profit on a new tar sands project.
cytafex wrote:
Watch what you ask for and be specific. Some of the solutions are not any better than what we have. I live near an industrial wind project Hoosac Wind, the Neighbors from Hell...
The planners and those who gave permission are the villains here. "Not in my backyard," sounds selfish, but it makes sense. A wind farm can be put anywhere, but common sense should prevail. I bet someone made millions on that project. Local residents? Who cares?
Swede
Loc: Trail, BC Canada
. To me it looks like humans will never learn, or are just refusing to re-think![/quote]
You got it, eventually it is going to come to a point where it becomes epidemic, we as a society will cease to exist. Mother Nature will start again,with an new slate and with some hope, she will of learned something.
'Keep humans out of the equation'
I hope I miss it, and I am thankful I have no children to leave what is about to happen to this pretty place.
Swede
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