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Feb 15, 2020 11:27:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rehess wrote:
Did you see the grain on prints made from the negative or from the digital version?

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Haha.
Conceivably one can have an image with virtually no grain, like from Panatomic-X, then get a poorly done scan and get a lot of noise.

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Feb 15, 2020 11:29:54   #
flyboy61 Loc: The Great American Desert
 
RWR wrote:
Color negative film requires C-41 chemistry, Cinestill is a black and white developer. I’m not familiar with using the wrong chemistry, but suspect that is your problem.


I think you got it! But...if Cinestill is a B&W developer, how did he get a color image?

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Feb 15, 2020 11:38:29   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
flyboy61 wrote:
I think you got it! But...if Cinestill is a B&W developer, how did he get a color image?

Good question. I have no experience with color negative film, and don’t know the answer. The only Cinestill developer I saw in a Google search was DF96. Maybe I didn’t look hard enough.

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Feb 15, 2020 13:43:08   #
jimkenny Loc: Palm Coast FL
 
Digital.

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Feb 15, 2020 13:46:38   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
jimkenny wrote:
I've just started using fuji film 200 with a new lomo lc~a+ 35 mm. developing with Cinestill and surprised by the amount of noise I'm getting. I stopped down to iso ton100, no help. At this iso I didn't expect any noise, I followed Cinestill developing instructions very close. I was shooting in daylight, sun and clouds. I've used Cinestill to develop some 120 film with no noise. Any ideas.
jimkenny wrote:
Digital.

If you see noise in a scan, I would look at the scanner first.

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Feb 15, 2020 13:46:41   #
jimkenny Loc: Palm Coast FL
 
Color negative. Cinestill is c41 processing.

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Feb 15, 2020 13:53:35   #
jimkenny Loc: Palm Coast FL
 
Cinestill is c41 color negative processing



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Feb 15, 2020 13:55:26   #
jimkenny Loc: Palm Coast FL
 
Cinestill is c41 processing for color negative film



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Feb 15, 2020 13:57:12   #
jimkenny Loc: Palm Coast FL
 
See my post of Cinestill box

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Feb 15, 2020 14:00:51   #
jimkenny Loc: Palm Coast FL
 
I've looked at that ,other scans are fine. Only the fujicolor 200. Im starting to think the noise is from overxpouser, camera meter error

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Feb 15, 2020 14:08:34   #
jimkenny Loc: Palm Coast FL
 
I shoot digital as well as film. I'm retired, plenty of time on my hands, plus I like the challange and process film offers

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Feb 15, 2020 14:27:23   #
bleirer
 
Its been awhile since I home processed color, but the usual rules apply, consistent and accurate temperature control, consistent agitation according to the directions, fresh chemistry within the use by after mixing date.

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Feb 15, 2020 14:41:52   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
jimkenny wrote:
Digital.


Please use the "Quote Reply" option as I have done so we know which post you are addressing.

Interesting thread.
I used to process all kinds of film back in the day.
My first guess is the processing temperature was too high.
That can increase the grain size.

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Feb 15, 2020 15:43:43   #
jimkenny Loc: Palm Coast FL
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Please use the "Quote Reply" option as I have done so we know which post you are addressing.

Interesting thread.
I used to process all kinds of film back in the day.
My first guess is the processing temperature was too high.
That can increase the grain size.


Thought that but I'm right at temperature.. I think it might be overxpouser or maybe my agitation during processing is too agressive

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Feb 15, 2020 17:51:57   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
jimkenny wrote:
Cinestill is c41 color negative processing

So, there is more than one CineStill developer. Thanks for telling us which one you used. Besides being extra careful with your time and agitation, you might also want to double-check your thermometer’s accuracy.

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