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Feb 10, 2020 10:25:06   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
kerry12 wrote:
Dennis. I did not serve, but I would never under estimate or criticize any one who has severed. All of you have my respect and heart felt thanks forever. Thank you and God Bless you. Kerry


Thank you Kerry for your kind comment.

Dennis

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Feb 10, 2020 10:46:29   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
yssirk123 wrote:
Thank you for your service Dennis.


Thank you for your comment. It is much appreciated my friend. It was my pleasure to serve and give back to my country.

Dennis

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Feb 10, 2020 10:47:59   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Aloha Rix wrote:
Thank you for your service. That sounds trite, but it is true and sincere.

Thank you also for telling us, who were never in the military, what great sacrifices were made, and reminding us that if not for people like you we would not be able to appreciate the freedoms we have, freedoms many (especially the new generations who were not required to study history) take for granted.

I have seen some of the movies you cannot bear to watch; I was deeply moved by the experience. But two hours in a dark theater can only begin to hint at what hell war was. So I say again, thanks for going there, being there, and enduring scorn from those who thought the world would have been a better place for people like you not showing up. These are mere words, and actions do indeed speak louder, and remain in one's memory longer, but your words touched my heart, so thank you.
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As your words touched my heart. Thank you.

Dennis

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Feb 10, 2020 10:53:38   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
home brewer wrote:
Thank you for serving in combat. My father in law saw many horrors in WW 2 and he had a rough time. My dad also served and would not say much. I pray you find peace.


Thank you for the comment. I have found peace for the most part. it is a matter of taking the bad parts and locking them away at least for temporary periods. Like a death of a loved one the memories are always there but we learn to work around them until something triggers a moment.

My greatest respect for your father in law and for your dad. Thank them for their service if possible. I have found the military veterans who are always talking about the deeds of derring do may have never left America. Those who never talk about it just may simply not want to relive those times again.

I am proud to tell people that I served and that I was in a combat zone. My brother and I sometimes talk about what we actually saw and did but most of the time not. My deepest memories are mine and not even the business of my twin brother. He feels the same.

Dennis

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Feb 10, 2020 10:58:47   #
hogesinwa Loc: Dalyellup Western Australia
 
On my way down the Atlantic ICW a few years back I stopped in the Daytona civil marina. I had a powerboat alongside me and heard the radio playing an Australian radio ststion. Puzzled me so I asked my neighbour why. We got to talking over the next week and it turned out he was a helo rescue pilot in Vietnam. He himself got shot down twice, losing his helo both times.
When his time was up, he didn't want to face the reception he knew he would get so he came here and lived in Oz for 10 years, which is why he was playing that station. Although he had an apartment in Daytona, he preferred to live on his boat. It was a very nice boat if you are inclined to launches/trawlers (mine was a sailboat). He was a very nice man and a fine aviator.

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Feb 10, 2020 11:38:46   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
I am about to turn 88 and found in the last year or so I can ermines about "the goodly days".

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Feb 10, 2020 12:03:31   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Thank you, Dennis and all who served for your service and sacrifice for our country. For me it was very sad the way the soldiers were treat after returning from the war, to me you are all heroes and should be treated with great respect and adoration, period.

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Feb 10, 2020 12:15:14   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Earnest Botello wrote:
Thank you, Dennis and all who served for your service and sacrifice for our country. For me it was very sad the way the soldiers were treat after returning from the war, to me you are all heroes and should be treated with great respect and adoration, period.




Dennis

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Feb 10, 2020 13:00:53   #
PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I can't say I disagree with that at all. When I said I don't get angry at those who have not served that did not mean I have ever thought citizens should not contribute SOMETHING to the betterment of our society. For too long with our volunteer military we have seen veterans in this long war go back again and again to the war zone while perfectly healthy young men and women have confuted nothing to society.

Dennis


I agree and would love to see every man and woman be required to go through 6 to 8 months of boot camp as a requirement for maintaining citizenship. I was fortunate that I never was in any draft (the selective service registration requirement was brought back when I was 18 but nothing seemed to be done with it). I see that a time of training would help so many young people finally become adults and break our society's emphasis on ourselves rather than those around us.

As part of a men's breakfast this weekend, I had the opportunity to speak with an Iraq war vet. He had been a Marine pilot and been in a crash (he didn't offer any further explanation) resulting in the loss of some his crew members and both of his legs. His response after all the acknowledgement and appreciation for his service was simple -

"its because I believe you are all worth it".

I know that was no platitude and exactly the way he views his service. Talk about selfless. He brought his 2 boys to the breakfast - both under 12 - and you could already see they were growing up with that same selflessness and service orientation. There IS hope for tomorrow as long as men like that are raising kids to walk in his place someday.

While I am thinking about it - Thanks to all you who have served. I hope that in some way I can serve my community and country in a meaningful way that requires ME to sacrifice as you have.

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Feb 10, 2020 13:04:53   #
D.E.Kells Loc: Central OHIO
 
Thank you for your service ∞

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Feb 10, 2020 14:08:28   #
jerrydownunder Loc: Newcastle, NSW Australia
 
3 combat tours in the Desert as a special operator. There are a few movies that bring back some bad memories but for the most part I can get through them. To my fellow veterans, thank you for signing that "blank check".

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Feb 10, 2020 15:41:00   #
DRam11 Loc: Polson, MT
 
robertjerl wrote:
I lean towards the Swiss, Israeli and others plan, everyone serves in some way, not just military. But I think I like the way Robert Heinlein did it in "Starship Troopers" better, and I don't mean the awful movie - the original book. Everyone is a citizen with rights except only those who serve (voluntary with other service than military provided) can vote, run for office and hold certain kinds of jobs. It also included a mandatory high school level class on doing service - taught by a former service member. So everyone gets to pick, live a comfortable full safe life or spend a certain number of years serving and then you get to help run the government etc. You have to earn it!
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I heartily agree.

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Feb 10, 2020 16:16:06   #
mwoods222 Loc: Newburg N.Y,
 
dennis2146 wrote:
This morning my cousin sent me a video about a movie out now called, The Last Full Measure. It is about an Air Force rescue helicopter crewman who drops through the jungle canopy to rescue wounded soldiers in Vietnam. I have not seen the movie yet and do not know if I will. But this is my response to her.

Please let's not let this go to The Attic. My heartfelt thank you to the Airman who saved the wounded and dying.


Thanks for sending that. I have seen the listings for the movie but had no idea what the movie was about. I don’t know if I will go see it but if I do it will be by myself. That is for these times when I may end up sobbing and don’t want to look like an idiot. I also choose when the movie is about to end playing at that theater so there may not be anybody else in the theater when I am there. I can watch some of these movies nowadays but in the past I could not watch any of them. I have never seen Full Metal Jacket nor Platoon because it was just too much too soon. Dan and I could not wait to get to Vietnam and to be involved in a fighting killing war. Honestly we still feel we did the right thing and are glad and proud we served. But it does take a lifelong toll on those who participate. Occasionally coming home isn’t what it is cracked up to be when thinking of those left behind. No neither of us is going to do away with ourselves. We made our decision way back and to us it is still the best decision we could have made. I am just saying it is costly in many ways. Like living to old age going into battle in a real life war isn’t all fun and games. It is not for the soft hearted among us.

To every one of those in all branches who have served in a battle zone I salute you all for fighting the demons that others refuse to face for the good of us all. I salute all of you also for fighting the demons after the killing has ended. Perhaps that is the hardest war of all.

For those of us who fought in Vietnam those demons can be the worst. Looking back I see coming home to even best friends who called me a baby killer, my Boy Scout troop master who cursed me out for doing the wrong thing when even today I feel in my heart I did the right thing. People who have not been there and done that have no idea what it is like to do your best and then be put down for doing just that for years on end.

Dennis
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I feel 4 u. I spent 33 years in the Army but never had to deal with what u did. I feel u guys went over to do the right thing but have always felt u get screwed. Thank you for ur service and sorry for what u had to deal with u had to when u returned.

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Feb 10, 2020 17:35:46   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
You did your best. We all did. I came home angry and bitter, and by the grace of God no one voiced such accusations toward me. If it had happened, my first job upon leaving the army might have been making license tags in the state prison instead of being a police officer. Not to defend my own honor, but for those who didn't come back to defend theirs.

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Feb 10, 2020 17:39:05   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
robertjerl wrote:
I lean towards the Swiss, Israeli and others plan, everyone serves in some way, not just military. But I think I like the way Robert Heinlein did it in "Starship Troopers" better, and I don't mean the awful movie - the original book. Everyone is a citizen with rights except only those who serve (voluntary with other service than military provided) can vote, run for office and hold certain kinds of jobs. It also included a mandatory high school level class on doing service - taught by a former service member. So everyone gets to pick, live a comfortable full safe life or spend a certain number of years serving and then you get to help run the government etc. You have to earn it!
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An excellent plan. Perhaps having been there themselves would lessen the fervor of some elected officials to send others, and to hold our present serving military in higher esteem.

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