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Jan 30, 2020 11:46:11   #
duane klipping Loc: Bristow iowa
 
Never took a workshop but looking at the prices one has to pay would not tip them. Guides would be another thing all together but would depend on cost and service.

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Jan 30, 2020 11:46:15   #
cyclespeed Loc: Calgary, Alberta Canada
 
If the company is telling you the expected tip amount then they are using the business model of low prices to draw many buyers and the staff pay is supplemented by those same buyers giving generous or at least enough tips to keep the staff turn over at manageable levels.
My suggestion about the process of tipping would be to use cash and give it directly to the individuals who provided the service and NOT THE COMPANY!
Using a credit card to pay a tip puts the distribution of that tip into the hands of the company.

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Jan 30, 2020 11:51:06   #
williejoha
 
I have never understood this whole gratuity issue. The gratuity that I received for my work was called a paycheck. You paid for the course, didn’t you. From what I have seen, they are not exactly cheap, are they. Call me cheap or what ever, just my opinion.
WJH

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Jan 30, 2020 13:53:37   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
47greyfox wrote:
I've participated in a number of multiple day photography workshops. Some excellent with lots of guidance, some with "we got you here and now, you're on your own," etc. Talking to other participants, the gratuity amount for the non-owner guide seems "all over the map" from 15%+ of the total workshop cost to some fixed amount per day. The last such workshop I participated in, one night over a couple beers, the subject came up and I heard everything from "don't tip" to amounts I thought to be a little over the top. Among you who have experience in the matter, what's your rule of thumb assuming the guide met expectations?
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It wouldn't occur to me that workshop guides should be tipped.

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Jan 30, 2020 13:58:13   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
DebAnn wrote:
It wouldn't occur to me that workshop guides should be tipped.


Not the leader but the local help, they do not get paid a lot

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Jan 30, 2020 14:32:43   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
williejoha wrote:
I have never understood this whole gratuity issue. The gratuity that I received for my work was called a paycheck. You paid for the course, didn’t you. From what I have seen, they are not exactly cheap, are they. Call me cheap or what ever, just my opinion.
WJH


You never worked as wait staff or at a bar.
That is painfully obvious.

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Jan 30, 2020 16:31:54   #
williejoha
 
Architect1776 you are absolutely correct. I never worked at a bar or as a waitress. But that does not change the facts.
WJH

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Jan 30, 2020 17:33:10   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
williejoha wrote:
Architect1776 you are absolutely correct. I never worked at a bar or as a waitress. But that does not change the facts.
WJH


They generally get paid less than minimum.
Most income is derived from tips.
That is how the real world works in that industry.
They can make excellent incomes superior to many factory union jobs if they do a good job.
But again your ignorance shines brightly and I would imagine that you are among those demanding jerks who do not tip from the narcissistic response.
Yes go cry to admin your sensitive feelings are hurt.

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Jan 30, 2020 18:14:22   #
williejoha
 
I can see from your response that you have a tough time to discuss a subject without name calling when others have different opinions. I wish you a good day.
WJH

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Jan 30, 2020 18:36:09   #
John Sh Loc: Toronto, Australia
 
If y'all come to OZ, it's very easy. WE DO NOT TIP! Maybe a bit of loose change in the cookie jar and that's it.

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Jan 30, 2020 18:38:35   #
John Sh Loc: Toronto, Australia
 
If y'all come to OZ, it's very easy. WE DO NOT TIP! Maybe a bit of loose change in the cookie jar and that's it.
Sorry, hit the button twice and there's no 'delete' button.

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Jan 30, 2020 19:18:18   #
11bravo
 
Moot point in China - no tipping.

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Jan 30, 2020 20:42:14   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Amielee wrote:
If you are talking about a "work shop" I don't think a tip is required. You pay to attend a work shop presumably put on by a professional (or someone who gets paid to put it on) and that pay should be sufficient. I do not pay a tip for medical workshops and would not pay a college educator for a class. The distinction is that professional people do not normally receive tips. I may however give a box of chocolates, flowers or some other gift for a very good presentation.


I agree. I would not give a tip for a program like this.

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Jan 30, 2020 20:45:17   #
Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado
 
I just got back from a safari to Kenya which was quite expensive $15k for 2 weeks. ( This is expensive to me at least). We were told the normal tip for the drivers per day. Also for the camp staff. The guys who carried your luggage. The owner of the company was on the tour as she always is and we did not tip her. I had no problem with the drivers tips as they can make or break a lot of your photos. Most have been to school and have ratings gold, silver or bronze. They really work to get you the good angle and know the animals and their behavior. I alway tipped the guys who carried my bags just like here at home. You tipped the camp staff in a box in the main gathering area at the end. 10$ for camp staff $20 for drivers per day.

I also did a Yellowstone trip. It was more of you are here and we will drive you around. The company said the normal tip is 15-20% of trip cost. We had 2 cars and 2 “guides/photographers” one night at dinner which was included in the price of the trip we all ordered the Bison special. Well, they only had 4 and 7 of us ordered. Several of us offered to give up our choice for something else. Guess who one was that did not give his up. One of the guides. I was not in his car, and had very little interaction, he did not get a tip. My driver was new, not the greatest, but he did get a tip, but not 20%! I talked to the company owner and Chris is no longer with the company and the owner offered a discount if I would go again... I probably will.

I know it is long, but depending on the service, I tip accordingly. The Yellowstone trip, the cars were never cleaned out for the entire week, muddy mess from shoes. Safari, vehicles cleaned inside and out daily...

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Jan 30, 2020 21:50:27   #
Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket
 
I have been to some workshops. I do not tip the organizer, who is the teacher that I pay for the class. I do however tip the models and makeup artist. I determine how much based on the recommendation of the instructor, then I round up, depending on the attitude of the model.

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