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Jan 17, 2020 11:43:51   #
francwoods
 
Another vote for BackBlaze

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Jan 17, 2020 11:52:31   #
NCMtnMan Loc: N. Fork New River, Ashe Co., NC
 
iDrive is very good and easy to setup and use. Lots of space for a very low price and you can backup any files you want to. File type doesn't matter since it's not just for backing up photos. You can set it to automatically run a backup daily,weekly etc.

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Jan 17, 2020 11:53:38   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
I use 2 separate hard driver and store everything on both. I had a cloud a few years ago and they didn't want photographers that take a lot of pictures. I have lost a hard drive in the past when I only used one back up drive. So now two. Recently one showed as sign of a problem so I replaced it. The one I lost was over 10 years ago. The back up is two 8TD each.

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Jan 17, 2020 12:16:50   #
frjeff Loc: Mid-Michigan
 
bsprague wrote:
To the OP.... You wrote, "but they do not backup my RW2 raw format (LUMIX)."

Prime Photos took mine without issue from a Panasonic GX8.


I only presumed they did not backup the RW2 format as it was not listed on their site as a supported RAW format. The few I tried last night uploaded but show as jpg’s when viewed in the app. So, obviously something uploaded. But is the raw file there if I ever need to download it? I wrote them, but have not heard anything back yet.

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Jan 17, 2020 12:18:52   #
frjeff Loc: Mid-Michigan
 
ColonelButler wrote:
Before picking a provider, think about the restore scenario. If you have a large volume of photos, video and data (I have about 3Tb), how long is that going to take to restore via the internet? Backblaze will provide your backup on an external drive for restoration which would reduce the time to hours rather than days.


That, in fact, is the prime reason I am leaning toward BackBlaze.

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Jan 17, 2020 12:33:57   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
It all depends on your internet speed and where you live. If you're in a city where AT&T or Google 1Gb is available, even a multi TB upload (both are fiber and symmetrical regarding upload/dowload speed) or download is entirely reasonable. BUT, if you're at 20Mb, that external drive is a Godsend.

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Jan 17, 2020 13:15:19   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
Cloud backup is just one more type of "media" to hold data.

Why use the cloud at all? If you want off-site storage for protection against a house fire, power surges or whatever damaging your multiple external
hard drives, do backups onto bare drives (using a USB dock) and put them at a different location.

I have a NAS file server with multiple external backup drives, and I still complement the setup with bare backup drives kept in my storage shed 150 feet from my house, wrapped in watertight packaging. Safe from house fire, power surges, probably theft too.

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Jan 17, 2020 13:26:25   #
SBDaryl Loc: Santa Barbara, CA, USA
 
nadelewitz wrote:
Cloud backup is just one more type of "media" to hold data.

Why use the cloud at all? If you want off-site storage for protection against a house fire, power surges or whatever damaging your multiple external
hard drives, do backups onto bare drives (using a USB dock) and put them at a different location.

I have a NAS file server with multiple external backup drives, and I still complement the setup with bare backup drives kept in my storage shed 150 feet from my house, wrapped in watertight packaging. Safe from house fire, power surges, probably theft too.
Cloud backup is just one more type of "media&... (show quote)



Because cloud backup is dynamic and always up-to-date.

How often do you retrieve your backup drives from the storage shed, add the new files, and then return them to the shed? Do you do it every time you create a new file on your computer? If not, then you risk losing those new files if there ever is a fire or some other disaster before you get around to it.

Also, if you live (as I do) in an area that's prone to wildfires and floods, there's a good chance that if your house burns, your shed will be taken out, too. With cloud storage, your files really are off-site.

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Jan 17, 2020 13:42:14   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
SBDaryl wrote:
Because cloud backup is dynamic and always up-to-date.

How often do you retrieve your backup drives from the storage shed, add the new files, and then return them to the shed? Do you do it every time you create a new file on your computer? If not, then you risk losing those new files if there ever is a fire or some other disaster before you get around to it.

Also, if you live (as I do) in an area that's prone to wildfires and floods, there's a good chance that if your house burns, your shed will be taken out, too. With cloud storage, your files really are off-site.
Because cloud backup is dynamic and always up-to-d... (show quote)


You're saying your cloud storage is automatically saving every change you make immediately? Wow. Good for you.

Doesn't change a thing. A cloud system is not absolutely, totally safe and foolproof, any more than any one piece of backup media is. No one off-site storage location should be the sole archive either. That is the reason for a backup STRATEGY of lowering the chances of total loss loss of your data.


I retrieve the bare drives and update them at a frequency that is comfortable for me.

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Jan 17, 2020 13:53:07   #
SBDaryl Loc: Santa Barbara, CA, USA
 
nadelewitz wrote:
You're saying your cloud storage is automatically saving every change you make immediately? Wow. Good for you.

Doesn't change a thing. A cloud system is not absolutely, totally safe and foolproof, any more than any one piece of backup media is. No one off-site storage location should be the sole archive either. That is the reason for a backup STRATEGY of lowering the chances of total loss loss of your data.


I retrieve the bare drives and update them at a frequency that is comfortable for me.
You're saying your cloud storage is automatically ... (show quote)



Did I say I don't have other backup strategies as well? I do, but that wasn't the point. The OP was asking for recommendations for cloud backup services.

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Jan 17, 2020 14:12:34   #
howIseeit Loc: Kootenays, BC Canada
 

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Jan 17, 2020 14:24:01   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
nadelewitz wrote:
You're saying your cloud storage is automatically saving every change you make immediately? Wow. Good for you.

Doesn't change a thing. A cloud system is not absolutely, totally safe and foolproof, any more than any one piece of backup media is. No one off-site storage location should be the sole archive either. That is the reason for a backup STRATEGY of lowering the chances of total loss loss of your data.


I retrieve the bare drives and update them at a frequency that is comfortable for me.
You're saying your cloud storage is automatically ... (show quote)


But it's not one off-site location or one drive. The major cloud providers keep a minimum of 3 copies of your data at separate geographically located data centers to deal with a potential data center failure. AND it is not stored on a single drive. It's stored on redundant RAID arrays with redundant servers, networking and power in hardened data centers administered by professionals. It's good that you have a strategy, but a major cloud provider is a LONG way from a $100 drive in a shed.

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Jan 17, 2020 14:30:24   #
frjeff Loc: Mid-Michigan
 
Just began the 15 day trial with Backblaze. It indicates my initial backup will take 99 days !!??!!??

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Jan 17, 2020 15:36:30   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
ColonelButler wrote:
... Backblaze will provide your backup on an external drive for restoration which would reduce the time to hours rather than days.

What about delivery time?

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Jan 17, 2020 15:56:29   #
frjeff Loc: Mid-Michigan
 
frjeff wrote:
Just began the 15 day trial with Backblaze. It indicates my initial backup will take 99 days !!??!!??


Now down to 13 days........

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