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Jan 17, 2020 07:24:51   #
Collhar Loc: New York City.
 
newsguygeorge wrote:
You did what journalists call, "Burying the lede." You post could have been half its length and still told the story. Sorry to have to post this, but sometimes it's helpful to know you needn't prattle on.


Yes.. but somehow you thought you must.

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Jan 17, 2020 08:37:55   #
Xanadu Loc: Clay County FL
 
Are you suggesting journalist do not "prattle on"?

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Jan 17, 2020 09:03:48   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
This type story is why I check all my used/new purchases out via many, many test shots, sometimes several hundred, shots of all type/many situations, and fully review the results prior to deciding to keep. I do this even with old gear, it is very well worth the effort. My other question would be did you buy the "dock" (Tamron Tap-in console) and utilize it in the ordeal?

Oh and the Reagan thing:

The phrase "Trust, but verify" was Reagan paraphrasing a Russian Proverb. This came out of his wanting to know not what the Kremlin thought, but what the Russian people thought; From 1984 to 1988 Reagan met privately with Russian Historian Suzanne Massie to learn what he could about how they might respond to ending the cold war.

Massie’s conversations with Reagan are the subject of her latest book, Trust, but Verify: Reagan, Russia, and Me.

“Reagan was the only politician I ever met who really wanted to know not, ‘What did the Kremlin think?’ but, 'What did the Russians think?'” said Massie.

One of the first things she spoke to the president about was the importance of the Russian Orthodox Church. In Massie’s description of that first meeting with Reagan, speaking about the Russian religious point of view was an ‘aha’ moment for the president.

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Jan 17, 2020 09:53:06   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
I’m an amateur and get personal property coverage for my photo gear from State Farm. Very reasonable premium based upon the value of your gear. Replace at purchase cost for stolen, repair if 80% or more of value, no deductible, no depreciation.

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Jan 17, 2020 09:57:44   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
olemikey wrote:
This type story is why I check all my used/new purchases out via many, many test shots, sometimes several hundred, shots of all type/many situations, and fully review the results prior to deciding to keep. I do this even with old gear, it is very well worth the effort. My other question would be did you buy the "dock" (Tamron Tap-in console) and utilize it in the ordeal?

Oh and the Reagan thing:

The phrase "Trust, but verify" was Reagan paraphrasing a Russian Proverb. This came out of his wanting to know not what the Kremlin thought, but what the Russian people thought; From 1984 to 1988 Reagan met privately with Russian Historian Suzanne Massie to learn what he could about how they might respond to ending the cold war.

Massie’s conversations with Reagan are the subject of her latest book, Trust, but Verify: Reagan, Russia, and Me.

“Reagan was the only politician I ever met who really wanted to know not, ‘What did the Kremlin think?’ but, 'What did the Russians think?'” said Massie.

One of the first things she spoke to the president about was the importance of the Russian Orthodox Church. In Massie’s description of that first meeting with Reagan, speaking about the Russian religious point of view was an ‘aha’ moment for the president.
This type story is why I check all my used/new pur... (show quote)




It makes me wonder what most Russians think of Putin — and Trump. What a difference a few decades make.

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Jan 17, 2020 10:17:18   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
burkphoto wrote:


It makes me wonder what most Russians think of Putin — and Trump. What a difference a few decades make.


Doesn't it though.......


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Jan 17, 2020 10:35:42   #
saxman71 Loc: Wenatchee
 
Long before I became educated by other more knowledgeable people here and elsewhere, I made a similar mistake. I bought a new lens (not used) and it was just never sharp. Because it was a Nikon lens and quite expensive I naturally assumed the lack of sharpness was because my skills were lacking. Sad to say, it was a simply bad copy. Even Nikon can produce a bad copy of a lens every so often. Good luck with your refurbished lens once you get it back.

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Jan 17, 2020 11:29:52   #
lamontcranston
 
burkphoto wrote:

Tamron lenses come with a six-year warranty. But it is ONLY VALID if you have the *original sales receipt*.


Very true, but beware. My daughter-in-law bought me a very nice Tamron zoom. Tried to register it but was informed I needed the original sales receipt to get the 6-year warranty. Of course my daughter-in-law didn't have the original sales receipt anymore so I have a NEW Tamron lens with no factory warranty due to this technicality. If you buy a Tamron lens don't throw away your receipt. If you lose it, you lose the 6-year warranty on your product.

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Jan 17, 2020 13:03:56   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
Rusty Lens wrote:
Gather ye, my friends & fellow hoggers close to your computer monitors so that you might be warmed and made wiser by the words I will write here.
A few months ago I suffered a serious GAS attack and was moved to purchase a Tamron 150-600mm G2 lens. After much research I found the lens of my dreams at MPB Photography in New York; a revered and well established firm. The lens arrived, my heart swelled with pride, strangers marveled and said things like, "what the hell is that?"
Yet, not all was well. My photos were close but "no cigar". Images I thought were outstanding, weren't quite sharp. Occasionally I would get a photo I could love but it was hit or miss. "A steep learning curve," I told myself. "You are still learning how best to use this thing," I said. Time passed.
Finally two things happened. First, I realized I was past MPB's 6 months warranty and second, I sent the lens to Tamron for repair & service. They found 5 problems with the lens. I was and am highly p---ed at myself for letting the warranty expire, at MPB's quality control failure & at Tamron for their quality control failure & because the warranty is not transferable.

My Scottish ancestors scream in my head, "have ye learned nothing in your eighty plus years ye daft fool?" So I leave you with these words of wisdom from a man wiser than myself. "Trust, but verify," Ronald Reagan.
Gather ye, my friends & fellow hoggers close t... (show quote)


The Used dealers give generous warranties to show they cannot possibly test every detail of every item they sell, but will take it back if you find it has problems.

You should not be waiting six months to try out a used piece of equipment! Why would you not have checked it out immediately?

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Jan 17, 2020 14:15:55   #
howIseeit Loc: Kootenays, BC Canada
 

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Jan 17, 2020 14:35:27   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Sorry it didn't work out for you. I have bought two items from MPB and been very satisfied with the items. Both Nikon flash equipment.

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Jan 17, 2020 18:19:18   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
nadelewitz wrote:
The Used dealers give generous warranties to show they cannot possibly test every detail of every item they sell, but will take it back if you find it has problems.

You should not be waiting six months to try out a used piece of equipment! Why would you not have checked it out immediately?


MPB gives seven or ten days for returns if not satisfied. Six months warranty on defective merchandise. Usually enough time.

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Jan 17, 2020 18:38:25   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
newsguygeorge wrote:
You did what journalists call, "Burying the lede." You post could have been half its length and still told the story. Sorry to have to post this, but sometimes it's helpful to know you needn't prattle on.


That was unnecessarily rude. Sometimes it's helpful to say nothing. The fact that you felt the need to apologize {SORRY} should have been a hint that this was one of those times.

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Jan 17, 2020 20:38:38   #
jsfphotos Loc: New York, NY
 
I’d like to know what they found wrong with the lens. I bought a Tamron 18-400 a year ago from B&H. I thought the same thing...it’s not as sharp as it should be. Or it OFTEN is not as sharp as it could be. Figured my hands are getting shaky, but now I’m not so sure. Thanks!

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Jan 17, 2020 20:38:39   #
jsfphotos Loc: New York, NY
 
I’d like to know what they found wrong with the lens. I bought a Tamron 18-400 a year ago from B&H. I thought the same thing...it’s not as sharp as it should be. Or it OFTEN is not as sharp as it could be. Figured my hands are getting shaky, but now I’m not so sure. Thanks!

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