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Jan 16, 2020 09:59:31   #
richandtd Loc: Virginia
 
I just bought my first paper products from RedRiver some 8.5” X 14” in 68lb UltraGlossy 2.0 two 50 sheet boxes. I use an Epson WT-4750 tank printer which only has 4 colors. I downloaded the printer profile from RedRiver for my printer with their paper and it looked terrible so I let the printer handle color management which looked better but still off. So I happened to have SpyderPrint so I installed it learned how to profile which is an interesting process. That took a couple pages but the end result was a beautiful printed 8.5” X 14” picture. It’s shocking to me that this tank printer can do such a nice job while just sipping on the ink.

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Jan 16, 2020 10:22:57   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
richandtd wrote:
I just bought my first paper products from RedRiver some 8.5” X 14” in 68lb UltraGlossy 2.0 two 50 sheet boxes. I use an Epson WT-4750 tank printer which only has 4 colors. I downloaded the printer profile from RedRiver for my printer with their paper and it looked terrible so I let the printer handle color management which looked better but still off. So I happened to have SpyderPrint so I installed it learned how to profile which is an interesting process. That took a couple pages but the end result was a beautiful printed 8.5” X 14” picture. It’s shocking to me that this tank printer can do such a nice job while just sipping on the ink.
I just bought my first paper products from RedRive... (show quote)


You have discovered that the SECRET to good prints is the use of ICC color management. Most important is monitor calibration. Second, is downloading the right third party paper profile(s) for your printer, and activating them EITHER in the software OR in the driver, but not in both places. It's even better to make your own custom profiles for your printer/ink/paper combination.

Even a sub-$100 office printer can yield a nice print, if you set everything correctly. This has been true for at least the last 20 years.

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Jan 16, 2020 10:27:22   #
Photographer Jim Loc: Rio Vista, CA
 
A calibrated monitor, knowledge of how to proof using the proper ICC profile can make a world of difference! 😀

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Jan 16, 2020 10:34:36   #
richandtd Loc: Virginia
 
So correct and yes the BenQ 3200u is calibrated with Spyder 5. So happy that I got off the fence about buying versus the monthly plan with Adobe photography is so much fun. I mean taking images from a Nikon D810 in raw using CaseAir and my iPad to the finished product coming off the printer. Yes I am one happy camper.

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Jan 16, 2020 20:33:25   #
JR45 Loc: Montgomery County, TX
 
I like the Red River paptheer but had trouble with the profile on my
Pro-100 printer. Went back to the printer profile.

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Jan 17, 2020 00:05:14   #
Bill P
 
I use RR paper almost exclusively and have never had a problem.

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Jan 17, 2020 06:28:11   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
richandtd wrote:
I just bought my first paper products from RedRiver some 8.5” X 14” in 68lb UltraGlossy 2.0 two 50 sheet boxes. I use an Epson WT-4750 tank printer which only has 4 colors. I downloaded the printer profile from RedRiver for my printer with their paper and it looked terrible so I let the printer handle color management which looked better but still off. So I happened to have SpyderPrint so I installed it learned how to profile which is an interesting process. That took a couple pages but the end result was a beautiful printed 8.5” X 14” picture. It’s shocking to me that this tank printer can do such a nice job while just sipping on the ink.
I just bought my first paper products from RedRive... (show quote)


Glad it worked out. I have a Spyder Print still new in the box, never used. Opened the box to make sure everything was in there & repacked it. Everything prints well with the profiles so far. Also have an xrite i1studio that will do that also. Never used Red River as of yet but have been thinking about it.
Happy printing.

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Jan 17, 2020 06:30:01   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
JR45 wrote:
I like the Red River paptheer but had trouble with the profile on my
Pro-100 printer. Went back to the printer profile.


Was it the wrong profile?

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Jan 17, 2020 07:44:03   #
Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire
 
JR45 wrote:
I like the Red River paptheer but had trouble with the profile on my
Pro-100 printer. Went back to the printer profile.


Hi. Not sure exactly what you are saying.

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Jan 17, 2020 08:54:48   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
burkphoto wrote:
You have discovered that the SECRET to good prints is the use of ICC color management. Most important is monitor calibration. Second, is downloading the right third party paper profile(s) for your printer, and activating them EITHER in the software OR in the driver, but not in both places. It's even better to make your own custom profiles for your printer/ink/paper combination.

Even a sub-$100 office printer can yield a nice print, if you set everything correctly. This has been true for at least the last 20 years.
You have discovered that the SECRET to good prints... (show quote)



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Jan 17, 2020 09:47:25   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Love Red River paper - especially Palo Duro Soft Gloss Rag.

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Jan 17, 2020 10:53:21   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
burkphoto wrote:
You have discovered that the SECRET to good prints is the use of ICC color management. Most important is monitor calibration. Second, is downloading the right third party paper profile(s) for your printer, and activating them EITHER in the software OR in the driver, but not in both places. It's even better to make your own custom profiles for your printer/ink/paper combination.

Even a sub-$100 office printer can yield a nice print, if you set everything correctly. This has been true for at least the last 20 years.
You have discovered that the SECRET to good prints... (show quote)


Monitor calibration is nowhere near the top of getting good results in printing. If you have prepared your file according to the numbers you don't even need to see it on a monitor.

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Jan 17, 2020 13:33:12   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Monitor calibration is nowhere near the top of getting good results in printing. If you have prepared your file according to the numbers you don't even need to see it on a monitor.


Once again, and respectfully, you know nothing of which you speak, yet you continue to sprew. Bill Has forgotten more about color calibration and printing than you'll ever know. He is absolutely correct and you are absolutely helping, especially the newbies. Best of luck.

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Jan 17, 2020 18:14:29   #
Harry13
 
cjc2 wrote:
Once again, and respectfully, you know nothing of which you speak, yet you continue to sprew. Bill Has forgotten more about color calibration and printing than you'll ever know. He is absolutely correct and you are absolutely helping, especially the newbies. Best of luck.


I dunno! I've never calibrated a monitor or used a profile. My Canon Pro-100 just keeps spitting out prints that look just like what my memory tells me they should. I have an in my 30s print on my wall from a pic I took in Sonoma many years ago: beach sand, bluffs and ocean. To me it looks just as I remember it. What gives? I just scanned the pic into my Dell computer from a slide from my Nikon (with my Canon FS4000US) and printed it on my Pro-100. No fuss, no muss, no agonizing. Simple as falling off a log! And everyone who sees that print says it's beautiful. I even like it mydamnself, that's why I put it where I can see it every day. And as I said, my memory tells me that it's almost perfect and I suspect that's because my memory ain't perfect anymore - or even as good as it was 50 years ago when I took that pic in my mid - 30s! Harry

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Jan 17, 2020 18:21:13   #
Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire
 
Harry13 wrote:
I dunno! I've never calibrated a monitor or used a profile. My Canon Pro-100 just keeps spitting out prints that look just like what my memory tells me they should. I have an in my 30s print on my wall from a pic I took in Sonoma many years ago: beach sand, bluffs and ocean. To me it looks just as I remember it. What gives? I just scanned the pic into my Dell computer from a slide from my Nikon (with my Canon FS4000US) and printed it on my Pro-100. No fuss, no muss, no agonizing. Simple as falling off a log! And everyone who sees that print says it's beautiful. I even like it mydamnself, that's why I put it where I can see it every day. And as I said, my memory tells me that it's almost perfect and I suspect that's because my memory ain't perfect anymore - or even as good as it was 50 years ago when I took that pic in my mid - 30s! Harry
I dunno! I've never calibrated a monitor or used... (show quote)


Sounds like you just took an image, scanned it and printed it - no adjustments to it?

If that's the case then yes, monitor calibration wouldn't do anything for you.

Where calibration comes into play is if you want to make adjustments to the image. If your monitor is too bright and the colors are off AND you then adjust exposure and color on screen you will wind up with an image that is probably too dark and with improper color.

That;s the whole concept behind test images like the Outback Photo test image - just open and print - don't make any adjustments.

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