Have cameras become too smart
Jan 1, 2020 00:44:24 #
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
JoeJoe wrote:
I was out with a friend at the weekend and the dis... (show quote)
Althought the future will have even more AI, at this time cameras still need a photogragher that knows how to activate the right auto aide, knows all the limits of all the auto aides, and know when and how to shut off those aides to be able to get the shot needed. Yes, a lot of functions have been made easier so the photographer can concentrate on the composition and decisive moment. But there will be times that the auto aides will prevent that instead of helping that. That is when you need a photographer, not just a smart camera.
Jan 1, 2020 00:46:51 #
Wingpilot wrote:
Modern cameras may have loads of features which can take away some of the photographer’s thought process, but the real thought process is having enough knowledge and skill to know which feature to use in any given situation, when to use it, and how to use it. All these features are just tools at our disposal.
Well stated, sir. I have a Canon 7D II and a 5D IV but am quite capable of taking a horrible picture. There is a lot to learn in order to properly use all those features today's cameras offer. Beyond understanding how all the settings (focal length, f-stop, ISO, shutter speed, etc) work together, the photogrpher also has to think about composition, subject, lighting, and so forth. The more I learn the more I realize I have to learn.
Jan 1, 2020 01:27:33 #
cahale
Loc: San Angelo, TX
Maybe, but the camera, no matter how smart it has become, can't FIND the shot. That's where we come in. How many billions? of photographs are taken each year that are technically adequate, but most of which belong in the nearest garbage bin?
Jan 1, 2020 02:13:45 #
Increased automation of many camera fictions does not cause mindful photographers to become less mindful. They do not cause photographers to become less observant, creatively lazy, or less knowledgeable about the numerous factors that contribute to a well crafted image. Those would all be choices made by photographers who give too much credit to the camera for the success of an image, and too little to the creative elements supplied by the photographer himself. Automation does not hamper a person’s “artistic eye” and sense of composition. They do not dictate to the photographer the mood, literal and emotional content, or sense of space the photographer envisions for the final image.
Automation quite simply streamlined some procedures that have sometimes been a pain in the arse. 😈
Automation quite simply streamlined some procedures that have sometimes been a pain in the arse. 😈
Jan 1, 2020 05:29:35 #
w00dy4012
Loc: Thalia, East Virginia
Gene51 wrote:
No, cameras continue to improve, evolving with every new model to provide cool stuff and sometimes useful stuff. What you are seeing is a divergence - photographers seem to be devolving - regressing to a less advanced state . . . 
Jan 1, 2020 06:01:21 #
JoeJoe wrote:
I was out with a friend at the weekend and the dis... (show quote)
Modern cameras are as smart as you want them to be. Shoot in manual mode and set your lenses to manual and you have all the control you need. I seriously doubt a rank amateur will produce the same results as a professional merely by setting a camera to automatic.
Jan 1, 2020 06:01:42 #
A camera can't point itself, compose and decide when to trip the shutter. The intent, content, and context of the image is all important, which is the responsibility of the photographer.
Jan 1, 2020 06:13:41 #
Todays camera have actually dummy downed the photographer. Hundreds of questions are asked here each month that would not and should not be asked if the photographer asking, understood the exposure triangle. They simply rely on the camera to do all of the work for them. If this new generation of photographers won't learn the most basic photography skills, they certainly will never learn how to capture a good image. Yes, todays camera help capture the perfect exposure in most instances, but that does Not in any shape or form, make a good image. It's still only a tool and it still takes a craftsman to weld its potential.
Jan 1, 2020 07:20:17 #
Jan 1, 2020 07:27:26 #
chippy65
Loc: Cambridge
The photographer is always necessary.................how else would the camera get to the photo-location?
Jan 1, 2020 07:30:12 #
chippy65
Loc: Cambridge
steve49 wrote:
And engineers don't use slide rules anymore either!
Some do!.........much less likely to get dropped and are oil resistant, no battery to go flat / corrode
Jan 1, 2020 07:35:53 #
tcthome
Loc: NJ
JoeJoe wrote:
I was out with a friend at the weekend and the dis... (show quote)
guessing your talking fast action sports & the like?(eye tracking)
Jan 1, 2020 07:36:55 #
Progress (whatever that is) is inevitable. I remember lamenting Nikon's invention of Automatic Multi-pattern Metering in 1983. I would have much preferred a multi-spot meter like Olympus installed in their OM-4 since (I felt) it would teach photographers more about getting the exposure right by making them/us have to choose what the important elements were in a composition. Instead, with AMP (Matrix), the camera chooses without your knowing why. Now, just about every camera from every company uses a "matrix meter". Very few multi-spot meters today.
Jan 1, 2020 07:37:16 #
burkphoto wrote:
.....We still need to THINK, react, make our compositions, control light, and pick our moments.
Exactly. How much control does a camera have over content? If a photographer doesn't appreciate how much more important content is over technical considerations then he/she is missing the point, and expensive lenses and camera bodies aren't going to solve that problem.
Jan 1, 2020 07:43:12 #
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