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Dec 31, 2019 17:55:07   #
Doc Barry Loc: Huntsville, Alabama USA
 
Marlz wrote:
I'm a hobbyist who has spent a lot of money getting to what suits me best; I have also lost a lot of money getting to what suits me best. When I realized that I did not like changing lenses, I sold my Sony a6000 with the few great lenses I had acquired. Following advice that I took from this site, I opted for the Sony RX100 vi. LOVE that camera! But I wanted more zoom, and with an interest in shooting the moon, I purchased the Nikon P1000. I got great views and shots of the moon, but I was not always happy with the quality of much of my other shooting. Enter the Sony RX10 iv, another camera that came to my attention on this site — truly a "honey." Another trade-in (bye-bye Nikon) and more $ loss, but I now have a Sony pair that does all I need to do and that doesn't leave me looking for something better. Feels good to feel that I have finally "arrived."
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Hi Marlz,
Great story. You define a hobbyist to a tee! 😃. I’m one too it seems.

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Dec 31, 2019 18:11:09   #
Flying Three Loc: Berthoud, CO
 
I'll put in my vote for the Sony RX100vi. The only difference between the vi and vii is the microphone jack on the vii. Not worth the money unless you shoot a lot of fancy video. I carry mine in a fanny pack. I hate saggy pockets.

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Dec 31, 2019 18:36:03   #
Leinik Loc: Rochester NY
 
Hi jcwall396, from what I have just read, it sounds that what you may be looking for is a member of the Sony RX100 family for portability and quality. Pick one from the RX100 III up because Sony added an electronic viewfinder that was absent before the third iteration of the model, an improvement that I have found very useful... then look at the maximum f-stops and the range of the zooms (depending on the model) and choose according to your needs. Of late I have opted for a member of the Fuji X100 family (4 generations to this day; III (T) and IV (F) being the best choices because of the improvements on the I and 2 models, notably AF-speed). They all have the same (fixed) 23 mm f2 lens (an excellent one), the X100T has a 16 Mp sensor whereas the X100F has a 24 Mp one (same as X Pro 2). Less pocketable that the Sony RX 100s but more pleasurable to use (if you do not or will not use a zoom). All these models are equipped with electronic view-finders which I find extremely useful (exposure in real time, different image ratio possible, black and white,...)... the reason I also switched from my D750 to a Z7.

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Dec 31, 2019 19:14:14   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
le boecere wrote:
Hi Greg,

I've had a camera depart from my shirt pocket into a creek (it survived), so I'm a bit reluctant to carry one there unless it's buttoned in securely. However, I do like to be able to stuff a camera into the front pocket of my trousers, including jeans...especially in warmer weather. The RX100III will fit a fairly "relaxed jeans" pocket, but getting it out of that pocket in a hurry is not quite as easy as the 'goesinta'.

Once a camera choice is too large for a pant pocket, it opens all sorts of options (depending upon the size of the pocket, of course) ~ even to the possibility of a Sony a6xxx with a small lens mounted, an old Canon G10, the LX100, etc.
Hi Greg, br br I've had a camera depart from my s... (show quote)


Well, I agree, a shirt pocket can be a risky place to carry a camera. I have a couple shirts with “relaxed” pockets with buttoned pocket flaps, so at least that works. Otherwise I carried the camera in my jacket pocket. Then I read that despite having the two-bladed lens cover that closes when the camera shuts off, that dust and lint can still get into the lens and in between the lens barrel and the housing. So I got a belt carried pouch for the camera. At least that was my solution.

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Dec 31, 2019 20:53:28   #
le boecere
 
Wingpilot wrote:
Well, I agree, a shirt pocket can be a risky place to carry a camera. I have a couple shirts with “relaxed” pockets with buttoned pocket flaps, so at least that works. Otherwise I carried the camera in my jacket pocket. Then I read that despite having the two-bladed lens cover that closes when the camera shuts off, that dust and lint can still get into the lens and in between the lens barrel and the housing. So I got a belt carried pouch for the camera. At least that was my solution.


Ya know, I've had a few thoughts about the potential of pocket lint inside the camera. Maybe I'd better learn to carry it on my belt. That's the one (or, maybe one of?) Achilles' heel on this camera style.

THANK YOU

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Dec 31, 2019 20:59:12   #
RGG
 
Any camera with a "Program" or "Auto" setting and Auto Focus is Point-and-Shoot any time a P&S is wanted or needed. The better the camera, the better it will P&S. The difference is that better cameras can do much more than P&S while a lesser camera may be better off left on "Auto".

I often leave my cameras ready to P&S. If I pick one up and don't want P&S it only takes a second to set it back to Manual.

This notion does not take size into consideration.

Happy New Year!!!

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Dec 31, 2019 21:03:37   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
RGG wrote:
Any camera with a "Program" or "Auto" setting and Auto Focus is Point-and-Shoot any time a P&S is wanted or needed. The better the camera, the better it will P&S. The difference is that better cameras can do much more than P&S while a lesser camera may be better off left on "Auto".

I often leave my cameras ready to P&S. If I pick one up and don't want P&S it only takes a second to set it back to Manual.

This notion does not take size into consideration.

Happy New Year!!!
Any camera with a "Program" or "Aut... (show quote)


Good point.

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Jan 1, 2020 02:10:46   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
jcwall396 wrote:
I have a Nikon D750 that I’m very very happy with but looking for an excellent quality point and shoot to take on trips simple due to the weight and not lugging around so much equipment. I’ve heard Sony mak3s a great point and shoot but have never used a Sony. I want great image quality and the ability t9 shoot raw and bracket images. Suggestions?


Nikon 850 on auto.

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Jan 1, 2020 06:20:22   #
cygone Loc: Boston
 
Jbat wrote:
Sony has a great series in their RX100M. It now runs from M1 to M7. I have owned the RX100M3 and now the RX100M5. Both are great cameras and I am sure the M7 is also. The earlier models up thru the M5 are 24-70 range. I think the later two models are 24-200.
I own this camera for the exact purpose you are asking about. My RX100M5 is light, has a small flash built in, and most importantly to all to me, it has a view finder. The first two models did not have a viewfinder and I will not buy a camera without a viewfinder.
Take a look at these. They are not inexpensive but they are worth the money if you can afford to spend what they cost.
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I have the M7 and have owned a few previous models but I do miss my M5. Great camera and probably a great price now

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Jan 1, 2020 06:26:17   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
le boecere wrote:
Ya know, I've had a few thoughts about the potential of pocket lint inside the camera. Maybe I'd better learn to carry it on my belt. That's the one (or, maybe one of?) Achilles' heel on this camera style.

THANK YOU


I carry mine is a belt pouch, no lint, no fuss.



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Jan 1, 2020 07:30:58   #
BebuLamar
 
RGG wrote:
Any camera with a "Program" or "Auto" setting and Auto Focus is Point-and-Shoot any time a P&S is wanted or needed. The better the camera, the better it will P&S. The difference is that better cameras can do much more than P&S while a lesser camera may be better off left on "Auto".

I often leave my cameras ready to P&S. If I pick one up and don't want P&S it only takes a second to set it back to Manual.

This notion does not take size into consideration.

Happy New Year!!!
Any camera with a "Program" or "Aut... (show quote)


Your definition makes sense but most people do not agree with you on that and that is why I asked the question. What is a point and shoot? Obviously the ability to just point and shoot isn't sufficient to be a point and shoot.

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Jan 1, 2020 09:30:50   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
The reason there aren't many p&s cameras around is people use their smart phones. Why don't you so some tests, and see if that might work for you. Alan<<

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Jan 1, 2020 12:03:05   #
le boecere
 
billnikon wrote:
I carry mine is a belt pouch, no lint, no fuss.


That's a good-looking belt pouch, Bill. Where did you find it?

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Jan 1, 2020 12:09:34   #
Cheetah34 Loc: Virginia Beach
 
le boecere wrote:
That's a good-looking belt pouch, Bill. Where did you find it?


I would also like to know

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Jan 1, 2020 13:28:17   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
lloydl2 wrote:
I too am a fan of the sony rx 100 I started with the m3 and just bought the m7 with the 24-200 zoom it also has very fast focus and can shoot action shots at 20 frames per second with great focus tracking. I too bought it to avoid taking the big camera and multiple lenses on trips. This camera can shoot raw and full manual but also has can be put in auto or any of the other shooting modes PASM. It has a !" 20 meg sensor and takes an excellent photo. I have some landscape shots I've enlarged to 16 x 24 and printed on metal and they are beautiful.. It is however, not cheap to buy.
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It looks like a lot of the responders like Sony and Panasonic. Do you find the menu system on the Sony to be fairly straightforward? And is it pretty quick to change settings if I want to go from, say Full manual exposure shooting Raw to something more automated - meaning letting the camera pick the exposure settings?

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