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Dec 21, 2019 11:30:44   #
Kozan Loc: Trenton Tennessee
 
d3200prime wrote:
I am considering Nikon's first mirrorless AP-C camera and am wondering if anyone owns one and what they think of it. Any input appreciated.


I've had one for a couple of weeks now, and I love it. I haven't tried all the functions my D850 will do. But so far I know it does High Speed Sync,HDR and D-lighting, so I'm good with it.

I was surprised the Tamron 70-200 F/2.8 did not work with the FTZ adapter. My Nikon 200-500 works great on it. I have noticed that it will auto focus even in very dim light.

I'm still learning about the camera, but so far, I love it.

Kozan

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Dec 21, 2019 12:06:15   #
lrm Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
All I can say is that I had a D5600 and returned it. Have had the Z50 for two weeks with almost 3600 shots and am keeping it. Enough said. Also keeping my D500 and my D750 with various lenses. The Z50 is my go to every day, travel camera, landscape, portrait camera. For Birds in flight my D500 with the 200-500, and my D750 will probably gather dust.

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Dec 21, 2019 12:14:36   #
d3200prime
 
Kozan wrote:
I've had one for a couple of weeks now, and I love it. I haven't tried all the functions my D850 will do. But so far I know it does High Speed Sync,HDR and D-lighting, so I'm good with it.

I was surprised the Tamron 70-200 F/2.8 did not work with the FTZ adapter. My Nikon 200-500 works great on it. I have noticed that it will auto focus even in very dim light.

I'm still learning about the camera, but so far, I love it.

Kozan


Glad to hear the 200-500 works well on the Z50. That was one of my concerns. Much thanks!

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Dec 21, 2019 13:03:06   #
lesdmd Loc: Middleton Wi via N.Y.C. & Cleveland
 
IDguy wrote:
I don’t consider the D5600 ”entry level”. It does nearly everything my D800 did and more. The info screen control has been a big plus with it compared to the random unlighted button approach of Nikons D8xx’s (before D850) and D7xxx before D7500. Touch screen on the D5500 and D5600 makes it elegant.

My Z6 also has touch screen control. I do like that but the D5600 has neater ISO control by sweeping screen with camera at your eye.


Nikon classifies the D5600 as “Advanced Entry Level”. At the discount at which it is now being offered it looks like a steal. I have always believed that if a “tool” (such as a camera) does what YOU want, then you do not need anything else. The other side of the coin is that if one does not keep an open mind, or is unable to appreciate what else is available, he is probably missing out.

I pre-ordered the Z50, even after watching a video that claims it is a horrific mistake by Nikon. Not very smart on my part, I must admit; but some encouraging pre-release reviews; and promises of a generous return policy convinced me to take a chance.

After several weeks I am delighted with the camera and lenses. Nikon is conservative to a fault to call it “entry level”. There is so much it does so very well. And as I said earlier, it is so easy to carry and so much fun to use.

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Dec 21, 2019 13:14:23   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
lesdmd wrote:
Nikon classifies the D5600 as “Advanced Entry Level”. At the discount at which it is now being offered it looks like a steal. I have always believed that if a “tool” (such as a camera) does what YOU want, then you do not need anything else. The other side of the coin is that if one does not keep an open mind, or is unable to appreciate what else is available, he is probably missing out.

I pre-ordered the Z50, even after watching a video that claims it is a horrific mistake by Nikon. Not very smart on my part, I must admit; but some encouraging pre-release reviews; and promises of a generous return policy convinced me to take a chance.

After several weeks I am delighted with the camera and lenses. Nikon is conservative to a fault to call it “entry level”. There is so much it does so very well. And as I said earlier, it is so easy to carry and so much fun to use.
Nikon classifies the D5600 as “Advanced Entry Leve... (show quote)


Generally I see the difference as ”pro level” Nikons are weather sealed. The D5600 is not. But I don’t use my cameras in the shower so it isn’t a factor for me.

My Z6 is weather sealed. I recall seeing something on the Z50 saying it is too...sorta. If an issue for user worth verifying.

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Dec 21, 2019 13:33:39   #
lesdmd Loc: Middleton Wi via N.Y.C. & Cleveland
 
IDguy wrote:
Generally I see the difference as ”pro level” Nikons are weather sealed. The D5600 is not. But I don’t use my cameras in the shower so it isn’t a factor for me.

My Z6 is weather sealed. I recall seeing something on the Z50 saying it is too...sorta. If an issue for user worth verifying.


Just out of curiosity, and not to belabor my point, I went to NikonUSA.Com and did a comparison between the D5600 and D500. I will immediately admit that considering the price differential, the comparison is unfair . . . Except that there are features (exposure bracketing, wider ISO, greater shutter speed, for example) that the D5600 does not include or cannot match. If none of these matter to a buyer, then save the cash. Obviously, if one uses them, or anticipates the need to use them; and money is not a factor, then a photographer should factor them into consideration.

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Dec 21, 2019 13:42:47   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
IDguy wrote:
You might consider a Nikon D5600 instead. Very reasonable refurbs available for less than 1/2 the price. Uses all Nikon AFS and AFP lenses. Cheaper and much wider selection than Z lenses.

I now feel I made a mistake replacing my D800 (full frame) with a Z6. Keeping the sensor clean is a PITA. I am about ready to replace it with a D850.


So I guess there goes the theory that the mirror fans more dust on the sensor?

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Dec 21, 2019 13:46:06   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
d3200prime wrote:
I am considering Nikon's first mirrorless AP-C camera and am wondering if anyone owns one and what they think of it. Any input appreciated.


FWIW Ken Rockwell gave glowing reviews of this little gem....

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Dec 21, 2019 14:31:48   #
russraman Loc: New York City
 
If the prime reason you're looking at a Nikon Z camera is because of its smallish size, you might consider checking out Nikon's Df full-frame DSLR... I have two (one in black and one in silver) and I love them. In addition to being smaller than current upper-end Nikon DSLRs, the Df has the same sensor as the legendary Nikon D4, and it works with all Nikon F mount lenses going back to the 1970's. You can buy a refurbished one directly from Nikon at https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/refurbished-dslr-cameras/nikon-df-refurbished.html...



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Dec 21, 2019 14:57:46   #
Kozan Loc: Trenton Tennessee
 
Wyoshooter wrote:
I really wanted to like this when I saw it at Best Buy. I am interested in adding a mirrorless for birds and wildlife with my Tamron 159-600. In my opinion this body is too small to adequately support a big tele in normal operation capturing Eagals and wild life. Unless the kit is mounted on a tripod. I do think that Nikon has a great camera to use with the kit lenses.


My Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 G2 lens does not work on my Z50. The Tamron has 10 electrical contacts, whereas the Nikon lenses only have 8. That really is not a big deal. Both the 70-200 and the Nikon 200-500 are too heavy for the camera -- to hand hold anyway. On a tripod using the tripod mount on the lens, at least the 200-500 would be fine.

My Tokina 24mm - 70mm f/2.8 works great also. It's nice having an f/2.8 lens on it.

Make sure you get some documentation before you purchase. The Tamron may not work.

Good luck.

Kozan

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Dec 21, 2019 15:04:36   #
d3200prime
 
russraman wrote:
If the prime reason you're looking at a Nikon Z camera is because of its smallish size, you might consider checking out Nikon's Df full-frame DSLR... I have two (one in black and one in silver) and I love them. In addition to being smaller than current upper-end Nikon DSLRs, the Df has the same sensor as the legendary Nikon D4, and it works with all Nikon F mount lenses going back to the 1970's. You can buy a refurbished one directly from Nikon at https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/refurbished-dslr-cameras/nikon-df-refurbished.html...
If the prime reason you're looking at a Nikon Z ca... (show quote)


The Df is a very handsome piece but I only shoot DX and besides the cost is prohibitive for me but thanks for the input.

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Dec 21, 2019 15:05:42   #
d3200prime
 
Kozan wrote:
My Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 G2 lens does not work on my Z50. The Tamron has 10 electrical contacts, whereas the Nikon lenses only have 8. That really is not a big deal. Both the 70-200 and the Nikon 200-500 are too heavy for the camera -- to hand hold anyway. On a tripod using the tripod mount on the lens, at least the 200-500 would be fine.

My Tokina 24mm - 70mm f/2.8 works great also. It's nice having an f/2.8 lens on it.

Make sure you get some documentation before you purchase. The Tamron may not work.

Good luck.

Kozan
My Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 G2 lens does not work on my... (show quote)



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Dec 21, 2019 15:12:27   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
So I guess there goes the theory that the mirror fans more dust on the sensor?


Well there was a specific case with the D600 where oil got to the sensor. Can’t recall if it was from mirror bearings or shutter.

I am careful to only change lenses out of wind and away from dusty areas. I keep the camera opening pointed down. Nonetheless the Z6 sensor is a dust magnet. And Nikon threatens no warranty repair if you wet clean.

Also I’m not convinced the sensor shake clean on shutdown actually works on my Z6. It does not click or show the message like when manually activated.

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Dec 21, 2019 15:28:24   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
IDguy wrote:


Also I’m not convinced the mirror shake clean on shutdown actually works on my Z6. It does not click or show the message like when manually activated.


I would be very concerned if a mirror was shaking in my Z6

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Dec 21, 2019 15:29:04   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Bill_de wrote:
I would be very concerned if a mirror was shaking in my Z6

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LOL. Sensor. Was able to edit.

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