toxdoc42 wrote:
I am well aware of the arguments regarding UV/clear filters to protect a lens. I don't want to jinx myself, but I have been involved with photography for over 60 years and have never had a cracked, scratched, or other form of damaged from of a lens. So you can understand that I am biased by the fact that even the most expensive filters, and who says that they are necessarily better than the least expensive ones, are placing another piece of glass in front of the lens that I prefer to use to take a photo. I checked with my personal property insurance carrier and they told me that damage from dropping a lens, etc., will be covered by them as well.
I am going on a safari in February and was told, by many, that it is very dusty and to carry 2 camera bodies so I don't need to change lenses. I bought a second body. Now I was told to wrap the camera and lens in a scarf when not shooting, so I got a bit worried about sand, dust, etc., sand blasting the front of the lens.
I started listening to u-tubes about the discussion of filters and various people's discussions about quality and price. When looking for a UV/clear glass filter I noticed that Tiffen, which was really a leader in filter manufacturing in the 1960s, still seems to have filters for sale, at this time. I found some of my old Tiffen filters from the 1960s and they look just great. They new Tiffen filters are far less expensive then other manufacturers' brands. I was surprised to find that they actually claim they make their filters in the USA. I took the chance and ordered one for my lower and one for my upper zoom lenses. I have polaroid filters for other lenses that I will be taking as well, so all of my lenses should be protected.
I just wondered if anyone has had any good or bad experiences with their filters?
I am well aware of the arguments regarding UV/clea... (
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Tiffen makes both very high end, top quality filters (mostly for the movie industry).... as well as really cheap ones that will probably not be very kind to your images... they probably make some others that are "in between".... I don't know.
Like you, I
don't use a UV (or clear) "protection" filter most of the time. I have them stored separate from my lenses in my camera bag and available for those times when one might actually serve a purpose... out in really nasty weather, shooting in a sandstorm, maybe photographing paintball warfare.... But all those are extremely rare. Usually I'm heading for cover when things get nasty and I can't remember the last time I witnessed a paintball battle. More common use for me, although still rare, I use a protection filter at the beach because salt air is hard to clean off optics and I'd rather wash a filter than a lens element.
I
did use UV filters a lot back when I shot film... but that was because most film was overly sensitive to UV light, which caused a bluish haze in images. I lived in Colorado and often was shooting at high altitude a lot, too... where UV is even more prevalent. I wasn't using the filters "for protection". Personally I think it's pretty silly to think a thin piece of glass will do very much in the way of protecting a lens. In fact, over the years I've occasionally seen lenses damaged by broken filters. (I use lens hoods and lens caps to protect both the lens AND the filter!)
That said, there are times to use some "protection"... and IMO if the photo is worth taking it's worth using a high quality, multi-coated filter. I think it's a mistake to spend a ton of money on cameras, lenses and on taking a once-in-a-lifetime trip... then stick some cheap piece of glass between your lens and your subject! 8 or 9 out of 10 times a cheap filter may not be a problem... and probably 96 or 98 out of 100 times a high quality, multi-coated filter will be fine.... It's those few shots you take in more challenging lighting conditions when a filter can ruin a shot. (I had to spend hours correcting images a 2nd shooter took at one of my events, when he didn't listen to me when I asked him to remove filters from his lenses!)
I trust B+W MRC, F-Pro and XS-Pro filters. Those are what most of my filters are. They use top quality Schott glass and all their filters are mounted in brass frames to reduce chance of galling and getting stuck on a lens the way aluminum can. MRC and F-Pro are 8-layer multi-coated... XS-Pro are 16-layer "nano" multi-coated, which makes them easier to clean, more resistant to water, dust and finger oils. XS-Pro are also in "slim" frames to reduce chance of vignetting on ultrawide lenses, but their "standard" frames on the MRC/F-Pro series are already pretty low profile. I've never had a problem with them even on my widest lenses (17mm full frame, 10mm APS-C crop). B+W F-Pro and MRC series are basically the same. F-Pro is simply a relatively new series name they've been using. B+W also makes an "SC" series that's not multi-coated, but I wouldn't use those outdoors.
Heliopan, Hoya, Hitech Formatt and Breakthrough Photography all make some very good quality filters too. Heliopan's SH-PMC, Hoya's HD3 and Breakthrough's X4 series are very similar to B+W. Breakthrough makes a lower grade X2. Hoya makes a whole bunch of different series, and seems to change the names of them every few years, making it confusing.
There are other very good brands, too, I'm sure. Benro has recently introduced a series that sound good on paper. Another brand called "K&F" has recently popped up and their specifications sound really good. Cokin has long been known for inexpensive "plastic" filters, recently went through bankruptcy, was acquired and the new owners have introduced a "Nuances" filter series that have very high specifications.
I think most camera/lens makers own brands tend to be very over-priced. But Nikon "II" filters are top-quality and now are multi-coated... Nikon's previous filter series were not multi-coated. Canon's filters are not multi-coated, either. I don't know about Sony, but they are involved with Zeiss, who make some top quality filters. Lens maker Rodenstock has also made top quality filters, although I haven't seen them in stores lately and they seemed pricey last time I noticed them. Of course, B+W that I use and often recommend is actually a subsidiary of Schneider Kreuznach.... a high-end lens makers for over 100 years.
Prices are all over the map. I don't know what size you need, but just for example:
77mm Hoya HD3 UV.... $144
77mm Heliopan UV SH-PMC... $117
77mm Breakthrough Photography X4 UV... $99
77mm Formatt Hitech Skylight 1A... $63
77mm B+W XS-Pro UV.... $63
77mm Tiffen Digital HT UV... $49
77mm B+W MRC (F-Pro) UV... $45
Look for yourself:
https://www.adorama.com/l/Photography/Lens-Filters/Protective-Filters-hyphen-UV-and-Clear?sf=Price&st=de&perPage=60&sel=Coating_Multi-hyphen-Coated%7cCircular-Filter-Size_77mmhttps://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ns=p_PRICE_2%7c1&sortType=default&setIPP=72&ci=112&fct=fct_circular-sizes_27%7c77mm%2bfct_a_features_1266%7cmulti-coated&srtclk=itemspp&ipp=72&N=4026728358Personally instead of clear I use UV filters for "protection", although digital cameras aren't susceptible to UV light the way film was in the past. The reason I use UV is because in some rare instances they also can be used to slightly reduce bluish haze in scenic shots ("skylight" and "haze" filters can act similarly).