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A call for ‘all of the facts’ in impeachment trial
Dec 16, 2019 09:14:14   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
"Chuck Schumer, the leading Democrat in the Senate, on Sunday proposed an impeachment trial “in which all of the facts can be considered fully and fairly,” including documents that the White House has withheld and witnesses whom it has prevented from testifying.

A Senate trial would follow this week’s expected vote in the House to impeach President Trump on charges that he abused the powers of his office and obstructed Congress.

Mr. Schumer’s plan represents a challenge to Senator Mitch McConnell, the top Republican, who has said that he would favor a short trial and that he was “taking my cues” from the White House.

The details: Mr. Schumer proposed that the trial begin on Jan. 7 and follow a timetable similar to President Bill Clinton’s trial, which lasted about five weeks. Read Mr. Schumer’s letter to Mr. McConnell here."

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Dec 16, 2019 09:56:01   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"Chuck Schumer, the leading Democrat in the Senate, on Sunday proposed an impeachment trial “in which all of the facts can be considered fully and fairly,” including documents that the White House has withheld and witnesses whom it has prevented from testifying.

A Senate trial would follow this week’s expected vote in the House to impeach President Trump on charges that he abused the powers of his office and obstructed Congress.

Mr. Schumer’s plan represents a challenge to Senator Mitch McConnell, the top Republican, who has said that he would favor a short trial and that he was “taking my cues” from the White House.

The details: Mr. Schumer proposed that the trial begin on Jan. 7 and follow a timetable similar to President Bill Clinton’s trial, which lasted about five weeks. Read Mr. Schumer’s letter to Mr. McConnell here."
"Chuck Schumer, the leading Democrat in the S... (show quote)


Why doesn’t chuck like the schiffs style of trial?

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Dec 16, 2019 10:10:33   #
EyeSawYou
 
yhtomit wrote:
Why doesn’t chuck like the schiffs style of trial?


Because he knows Shchitt head came up with nothing and Schumer is trying to recover from that insanity.

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Dec 16, 2019 11:18:46   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Because he knows Shchitt head came up with nothing and Schumer is trying to recover from that insanity.


You're a funny guy.
Thanks for the laugh.

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Dec 16, 2019 11:28:18   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"Chuck Schumer, the leading Democrat in the Senate, on Sunday proposed an impeachment trial “in which all of the facts can be considered fully and fairly,” including documents that the White House has withheld and witnesses whom it has prevented from testifying.

A Senate trial would follow this week’s expected vote in the House to impeach President Trump on charges that he abused the powers of his office and obstructed Congress.

Mr. Schumer’s plan represents a challenge to Senator Mitch McConnell, the top Republican, who has said that he would favor a short trial and that he was “taking my cues” from the White House.

The details: Mr. Schumer proposed that the trial begin on Jan. 7 and follow a timetable similar to President Bill Clinton’s trial, which lasted about five weeks. Read Mr. Schumer’s letter to Mr. McConnell here."
"Chuck Schumer, the leading Democrat in the S... (show quote)



during the house "hearings" only the democrats could call witnesses
republicans were not allowed that right. But, Schumer thinks it should be different in the senate. Nice try Chuck now go back to your seat, sit down and shut up.

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Dec 16, 2019 11:51:18   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Rich1939 wrote:
during the house "hearings" only the democrats could call witnesses
republicans were not allowed that right. But, Schumer thinks it should be different in the senate. Nice try Chuck now go back to your seat, sit down and shut up.


Sorry, Rich but your spin is a little off. Many of the President's supporters were subpoenaed but the President blocked them from testifying.
Maybe he should have allowed them to testify and then we would have heard, "both" sides of the story or maybe he was afraid they'd actually tell the truth.

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Dec 16, 2019 11:52:13   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
Rich1939 wrote:
during the house "hearings" only the democrats could call witnesses
republicans were not allowed that right. But, Schumer thinks it should be different in the senate. Nice try Chuck now go back to your seat, sit down and shut up.


Why did Trump block witnesses.

Let me help you; because they know Trump is a treasonous Putin Puppet.

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Dec 16, 2019 11:59:58   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Frank T wrote:
Sorry, Rich but your spin is a little off. Many of the President's supporters were subpoenaed but the President blocked them from testifying.
Maybe he should have allowed them to testify and then we would have heard, "both" sides of the story or maybe he was afraid they'd actually tell the truth.


"Trump blocked " nice straw man argument. However, da facts are still the da facts. Republicans were not allowed to call witnesses

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Dec 16, 2019 12:02:53   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Because he knows Shchitt head came up with nothing and Schumer is trying to recover from that insanity.


Frankty is speechless.

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Dec 16, 2019 12:07:02   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
Rich1939 wrote:
"Trump blocked " nice straw man argument. However, da facts are still the da facts. Republicans were not allowed to call witnesses


The hearings were nothing more than an investigation just like a Grand Jury investigation.

The person being investigated and possibly being indited does not get the chance to bring witnesses.

That happens in the trial which will be in the Senate.

Try to un-wad your little panties.

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Dec 16, 2019 12:14:17   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
BigWahoo wrote:
The hearings were nothing more than an investigation just like a Grand Jury investigation.

The person being investigated and possibly being indited does not get the chance to bring witnesses.

That happens in the trial which will be in the Senate.

Try to un-wad your little panties.


Again, nice try. While an impeachment hearing is "like" a grand jury in that it determines if a president should be tried by the senate,,it is not a grand jury and only follows rules set by the house.

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Dec 16, 2019 12:24:02   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
Rich1939 wrote:
Again, nice try. While an impeachment hearing is "like" a grand jury in that it determines if a president should be tried by the senate,,it is not a grand jury and only follows rules set by the house.


It was an investigation.

"Definition of investigate

transitive verb
: to observe or study by close examination and systematic inquiry

intransitive verb
: to make a systematic examination especially : to conduct an official inquiry"

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Dec 16, 2019 12:35:25   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
BigWahoo wrote:
It was an investigation.

"Definition of investigate

transitive verb
: to observe or study by close examination and systematic inquiry

intransitive verb
: to make a systematic examination especially : to conduct an official inquiry"


Very nice bit of research but it doesn't change my point or "da facts"
The rules of the investigation are set by the house and they excluded any witness the republicans wished to call. In other words if the republicans had exculpatory information they were not allowed to present it.
I have posted my thoughts and others will read them. I thank you for your time. Now I have other things to do. Bye/

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Dec 16, 2019 12:54:15   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
BigWahoo wrote:
It was an investigation.

"Definition of investigate

transitive verb
: to observe or study by close examination and systematic inquiry

intransitive verb
: to make a systematic examination especially : to conduct an official inquiry"


If so, why did they ignore evidence and cherry pick witnesses?

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Dec 16, 2019 13:17:34   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
It would be nice to see a list of laws actual codes he violated. With numbers......

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