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Dec 2, 2019 14:34:20   #
jaycoffman Loc: San Diego
 
My wife & I went to a couple of years ago--it's still one of our favorite trips (and we do quite a few). We use Overseas Adventure Travel (OAT) which is not a dedicated photo tour but gives you plenty of opportunities for photography. Photographers much more dedicated than me were very happy. We did a three week tour and hit virtually every major city, the Atlas and Rift mountains, the Atlantic and Mediterranean as well as the Sahara desert. Yes, we moved pretty fast but generally had two or three nights in each place. The lodgings were local not tourist and the accommodations were first rate. The guide was terrific and very knowledgable. They provide most of the food but there are numerous occasions to get out on your own. Personal safety seemed very safe--my wife and one or two other female friends took off a number of times into the cities at night and one women walked all over the cities by herself--never a tense moment. (Having said that the cities are big and the usual precautions should be taken when wandering off by yourself.) By the way--the photography is fantastic from the old cities to the mountains, ocean-sides and the Sahara. OAT never has more than 16 people on a trip and usually less and to us they seam reasonably priced. But as I said it is not a dedicated photo tour so don't bother with massive lenses, tripods or too much equipment--just take a reasonable amount and enjoy the people and scenery of this wonderful country. Also, something about the size and itinerary of OAT trips seems to apply to a certain type of person which means we were very compatible with the other travelers and have remained friends with quite a few.

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Dec 2, 2019 17:09:24   #
Cameralark Loc: Torrington, CT
 
Contact Rosa@rosafrei.com
She is a photographer who conducts private tours in English. I went with her several years ago and it was wonderful.
She uses really good drivers and vehicles and also likes to teach.
You can view my Morocco photos at carlmeisel.smugmug.com in the Travel section.

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Dec 2, 2019 17:28:27   #
EPDatabert
 
My wife and I went on a 7 day trip and a 5 day add-on trip to Morocco last October. Total costs were $8200, whcih inlcuded $750 in taxes. We had a great time and I got to take a lot of pictures. I'd love to go back for about a month long tour of the country and see mor places and things.

We used Acanela Expeditions 4106 N Fremont Drive Lehi, Utah, 84043.

https://www.acanela.com/

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Dec 2, 2019 18:12:55   #
picsix
 
You might want to consider hiring a professional photographer in a city or two you will be visiting? I did some research online and had no trouble finding someone in Vietnam. I went off for 4 hours of 1 on 1 photography while the rest of the group did their own thing. I got wonderful pictures and learned a lot of tips from this professional! And it wasn’t very expensive at all. I’ve been to Morocco and you will have a field day shooting there! Lots of colors everywhere!
Good luck and enjoy!

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Dec 2, 2019 19:38:12   #
jaycoffman Loc: San Diego
 
picsix wrote:
You might want to consider hiring a professional photographer in a city or two you will be visiting? I did some research online and had no trouble finding someone in Vietnam. I went off for 4 hours of 1 on 1 photography while the rest of the group did their own thing. I got wonderful pictures and learned a lot of tips from this professional! And it wasn’t very expensive at all. I’ve been to Morocco and you will have a field day shooting there! Lots of colors everywhere!
Good luck and enjoy!


Never though of this but if you decide to hire a professional and IF you get to Chefchaouen ("the Blue City") that is the place to do it. By far the most photogenic place in Morocco (maybe the world) and should be visited if at all possible.

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Dec 2, 2019 19:46:31   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
katu41 wrote:
Your comment seems to be out of context.

Perhaps so. For my personal use, I react emotionally to the scene or subject ... if I know what to expect I may as well go out in a pasture and photograph cow piles.

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Dec 2, 2019 21:18:17   #
rglucroft
 
I just came back from a 13 day tour of Morocco. I travelled with Peregrine Tours, a part of the Intrepid Group. It was fantastic. We travelled in a small group of 6 couples. The tour guide was experienced and gave us plenty of time to visit sites. I took photos without ever feeling rushed. In fact I took over 1400 photos. Gate 1 and others will rush you through and normally travel in buses of 50 people. Not a good way for a photographer to travel. I felt very comfortable with Peregrine and they are extremely easy to work with. I would travel with them again. Check their website and call them. its worth it. Enjoy Morocco.

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Dec 2, 2019 23:29:12   #
katu41
 
jaycoffman wrote:
My wife & I went to a couple of years ago--it's still one of our favorite trips (and we do quite a few). We use Overseas Adventure Travel (OAT) which is not a dedicated photo tour but gives you plenty of opportunities for photography. Photographers much more dedicated than me were very happy. We did a three week tour and hit virtually every major city, the Atlas and Rift mountains, the Atlantic and Mediterranean as well as the Sahara desert. Yes, we moved pretty fast but generally had two or three nights in each place. The lodgings were local not tourist and the accommodations were first rate. The guide was terrific and very knowledgable. They provide most of the food but there are numerous occasions to get out on your own. Personal safety seemed very safe--my wife and one or two other female friends took off a number of times into the cities at night and one women walked all over the cities by herself--never a tense moment. (Having said that the cities are big and the usual precautions should be taken when wandering off by yourself.) By the way--the photography is fantastic from the old cities to the mountains, ocean-sides and the Sahara. OAT never has more than 16 people on a trip and usually less and to us they seam reasonably priced. But as I said it is not a dedicated photo tour so don't bother with massive lenses, tripods or too much equipment--just take a reasonable amount and enjoy the people and scenery of this wonderful country. Also, something about the size and itinerary of OAT trips seems to apply to a certain type of person which means we were very compatible with the other travelers and have remained friends with quite a few.
My wife & I went to a couple of years ago--it'... (show quote)


This looks very interesting. I am going to check out OAT

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Dec 2, 2019 23:32:02   #
katu41
 
EPDatabert wrote:
My wife and I went on a 7 day trip and a 5 day add-on trip to Morocco last October. Total costs were $8200, whcih inlcuded $750 in taxes. We had a great time and I got to take a lot of pictures. I'd love to go back for about a month long tour of the country and see mor places and things.

We used Acanela Expeditions 4106 N Fremont Drive Lehi, Utah, 84043.

https://www.acanela.com/


Thanks for the info. I am going to check them out.

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Dec 2, 2019 23:33:13   #
katu41
 
picsix wrote:
You might want to consider hiring a professional photographer in a city or two you will be visiting? I did some research online and had no trouble finding someone in Vietnam. I went off for 4 hours of 1 on 1 photography while the rest of the group did their own thing. I got wonderful pictures and learned a lot of tips from this professional! And it wasn’t very expensive at all. I’ve been to Morocco and you will have a field day shooting there! Lots of colors everywhere!
Good luck and enjoy!


Thanks for the tip. I will think of doing this in a couple of locations.

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Dec 2, 2019 23:34:32   #
katu41
 
jaycoffman wrote:
Never though of this but if you decide to hire a professional and IF you get to Chefchaouen ("the Blue City") that is the place to do it. By far the most photogenic place in Morocco (maybe the world) and should be visited if at all possible.


Thanks for highlighting Chefchaouen. I am going to give this some thought.

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Dec 2, 2019 23:36:46   #
katu41
 
rglucroft wrote:
I just came back from a 13 day tour of Morocco. I travelled with Peregrine Tours, a part of the Intrepid Group. It was fantastic. We travelled in a small group of 6 couples. The tour guide was experienced and gave us plenty of time to visit sites. I took photos without ever feeling rushed. In fact I took over 1400 photos. Gate 1 and others will rush you through and normally travel in buses of 50 people. Not a good way for a photographer to travel. I felt very comfortable with Peregrine and they are extremely easy to work with. I would travel with them again. Check their website and call them. its worth it. Enjoy Morocco.
I just came back from a 13 day tour of Morocco. I ... (show quote)


This sounds like the right size tour for my needs. I will be checking them out.

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Dec 2, 2019 23:37:10   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
katu41 wrote:
I am planning a two weeks trip to Morocco in 2020. I am trying to find the best way to see and photograph the country. My preference would be for a personal guide to hit the traditional places of interest for architectural, cultural and landscape photos. Close friends returned a few weeks ago from a Gate 1 tour and spoke quite highly of the experience. While very cost effective, I don't see traveling with a group of 22 people very exciting or conducive to finding a wide variety of interesting shots. I have also found a tour company called Kensington that offers private tours but I haven't been able to get a good feel for their services. A&K will probably be too expensive and Tauck somewhat limited by a lot of bus travel.

I am now wondering if a country tour with a photo guide is at all a possibility. Most guides will only focus on one city not the entire country. Also, having to pay for the guides transportation and lodging for two weeks probably doesn't make much sense.

Any suggestions for the best way to manage a tour would be appreciated. Also, what would you consider the must see sights?
I am planning a two weeks trip to Morocco in 2020.... (show quote)


Friends visited Morocco earlier this year. They had a personal tour guide who took them to many parts of the country and provided a wealth of information about each locale. They said it was what made the vacation so extraordinary. >Alan

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Dec 3, 2019 00:52:01   #
worldcycle Loc: Stateline, Nevada
 
Personally I avoid tours like the plague. Too many people, too tight itineraries. If something sucks you still need to stick around until everyone moves on. If something is awesome and you want to really get involved, again too many people too tight of an itinerary and before you know it you are gone. If you are not confident enough to do it on your own, by all means pony up the bucks and get a personal guide. That way you can move at your own pace, see the things you want, ask questions and get personalized answers. Take the time to get the photos you want to get. Best of all get to the sites to see early or late. Tours all meet for breakfast, herd in mass to the bus and then all tour companies seem to congregate at the sites at the same time. On a very recent trip to Tibet my wife and I opted for a private car, driver and guide. Very affordable and the trip was unique tailored to our interests. We then went to Western China and followed the Silk Road route. We did most on our own yet when the situation called for it we always hired a private driver who could speak English and also act as guide. I always had ample time to get the shot at the right times for the best possible conditions. (Early morning, late afternoon lighting and best of all no tour/tourist lemmings to deal with)

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Dec 3, 2019 01:36:52   #
katu41
 
worldcycle wrote:
Personally I avoid tours like the plague. Too many people, too tight itineraries. If something sucks you still need to stick around until everyone moves on. If something is awesome and you want to really get involved, again too many people too tight of an itinerary and before you know it you are gone. If you are not confident enough to do it on your own, by all means pony up the bucks and get a personal guide. That way you can move at your own pace, see the things you want, ask questions and get personalized answers. Take the time to get the photos you want to get. Best of all get to the sites to see early or late. Tours all meet for breakfast, herd in mass to the bus and then all tour companies seem to congregate at the sites at the same time. On a very recent trip to Tibet my wife and I opted for a private car, driver and guide. Very affordable and the trip was unique tailored to our interests. We then went to Western China and followed the Silk Road route. We did most on our own yet when the situation called for it we always hired a private driver who could speak English and also act as guide. I always had ample time to get the shot at the right times for the best possible conditions. (Early morning, late afternoon lighting and best of all no tour/tourist lemmings to deal with)
Personally I avoid tours like the plague. Too man... (show quote)


I went your route on two trips to India and it was a perfect experience for all of the reasons you mentioned. I may do this in Morocco but first I need to do a lot more research.

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