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Dec 2, 2019 09:00:46   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
Photolady2014 wrote:
I was planing to go to Antelope Canyon this winter. Looked at tours and was shocked to see the last photo tour will be December 20th. No more after that!!! So, I’m now on the December 13th tour. Any advice, the rules seem somewhat strict (it does say my non photographer husband can go). Obviously a tripod, but any other advice is welcome. Did you do upper and lower Canyon? Horseshoe Bend, is it like other places where you have to get there hours before sunset to get a spot? (I went to Mesa Arch at 4:30am and was too late for a spot! And a pet peeve, non photographer spouses or companions were taking up space standing next to their friends tripod...)
Thanks for any advice! Oh the widest lens I have is a 17-40 for my 5D MIV, will I be disappointed?
Beth
I was planing to go to Antelope Canyon this winter... (show quote)

Antelope Canyon (upper and lower) are as crowded as Disneyland. The only pictures you will get without people in them will be when you point the camera up. Use a super wide angle lens (18mm or less), set the f-stop to 6.3, set the AF to manual, focus once on something 6' away (depth of field 3' to infinity), don't change focus, use a lens hood, blow the dust off the lens and lens hood with a rocket blower every few minutes.

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Dec 2, 2019 09:49:00   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Photolady2014 wrote:
I was planing to go to Antelope Canyon this winter. Looked at tours and was shocked to see the last photo tour will be December 20th. No more after that!!! So, I’m now on the December 13th tour. Any advice, the rules seem somewhat strict (it does say my non photographer husband can go). Obviously a tripod, but any other advice is welcome. Did you do upper and lower Canyon? Horseshoe Bend, is it like other places where you have to get there hours before sunset to get a spot? (I went to Mesa Arch at 4:30am and was too late for a spot! And a pet peeve, non photographer spouses or companions were taking up space standing next to their friends tripod...)
Thanks for any advice! Oh the widest lens I have is a 17-40 for my 5D MIV, will I be disappointed?
Beth
I was planing to go to Antelope Canyon this winter... (show quote)


Be creative.
Try a different perspective rather than the same shot millions of others take over and over and flood the internet with.
I thought this was a creative hobby yet I see the same complaint over and over wanting to take another me too photo like millions of others have taken.
Did it occur to you to walk around and try some other view away from the lemmings?
Make lemon aid out of a lemon and you will come away with a better set than what all have seen over and over.
Just think about it a bit.

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Dec 2, 2019 09:53:18   #
jam Loc: Beaufort, NC
 
I just got back from doing the Upper Antelope tour in Nov.. You camera and lens will be fine. The only suggestion I would have is that if you plan on doing brackets limit it to three shots one stop on each side of 0. I tried two stops and it took to long. Plan on shooting with an ISO of 800 and f/11 or something in that range. Know your camera when you get in there they will limit your time to 2 minutes on some shots where they stop the groups of other people so no one will be in your shot. I went on the first tour of the mourning and there were only two of use on the photography tour.


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Dec 2, 2019 10:08:38   #
steve49 Loc: massachusetts
 
Notable comment on that.
I was on a photo tour, which was fine and allowed tripods...
6 people as I recall and a couple of them were screwing with their tripods for 1/2 the time
trying to figure them out.
practice ahead of time... time will be very limited in there.
know how to shoot up, sideways, etc smoothly and quickly.

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Dec 2, 2019 10:26:35   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
billnikon wrote:
The photo tours are being stopped because the tribe can stuff more tourists through their canyon by stopping the photo tours. (they take too long) They were never that good, used to give you all kinds of time, but no longer. The mighty yankee dollar is alive and well.
I always got great shots on the regular tour, my tour guide gave me a couple of seconds to shoot if I wanted. AND I AM HAPPY THEY DID AWAY WITH TRIPODS TOO, TOURISTS WITH TRIPODS ARE LIKE TERRORISTS WITH TRIPODS.
In the canyons tripods are tripping hazards and slow down EVERYONE ELSE.
The photo tours are being stopped because the trib... (show quote)


Yes, I think I would be using a well braced monopod - NO tripod ...and I think I would also be using a small/powerful LED light on the camera hot shoe for fill lighting/details ...

It also seems to me, using a mirrorless type camera where you can SEE exposures and a Sony camera to do fast 3-shot HDR's would speed things up for all involved.
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Dec 2, 2019 10:35:01   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
jackpinoh wrote:
Antelope Canyon (upper and lower) are as crowded as Disneyland. The only pictures you will get without people in them will be when you point the camera up. Use a super wide angle lens (18mm or less), set the f-stop to 6.3, set the AF to manual, focus once on something 6' away (depth of field 3' to infinity), don't change focus, use a lens hood, blow the dust off the lens and lens hood with a rocket blower every few minutes.



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Dec 2, 2019 11:27:10   #
Selene03
 
How disappointing to hear they are ending the tours! Your camera and lens will be fine. When I did the tour of the upper canyon three years ago, you had to have a tripod to be part of the tour, so no non-photographers. I guess that has changed. I am glad I had the tripod, as it was pretty dark even during the Spring at mid-day. I agree with those who recommend mid-day by the way. They had already eliminated both photo tours and tripods in the lower canyon when I was there. We took the regular tour, and I was able to get some decent shots without the tripod and people though it was a bit tricky. I would recommend doing both canyons if you have the time. Horseshoe Bend is very easy to get to--just a short walk from the road; hence, lots of people there ready to take photos. It should be a bit better in December, but it is worth the effort.

As several others have mentioned, it is very dusty in the canyons. You will be shooting in low light. I am pretty short, so I ended up mostly standing with my tripod and shooting up the walls. I also ended up cloning out a lot of people in shots where I didn't do this. Enjoy your time here and listen to the Navajo guides. They have been doing this for a long time and understands what works and doesn't work for photographers.

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Dec 2, 2019 11:57:31   #
ekfelton Loc: Michigan
 
Just did the tour of upper Antelope Canyon in late November. The light was very poor and we only had 2 to 3 minutes at each location to set up and take images. Dusty and lots of regular tour folks cause many on the photography tour to rush. Still worth the trip, but don’t count on having a lot of time to set up.

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Dec 2, 2019 11:59:50   #
TXYank Loc: Granbury, TX
 
Photolady2014 wrote:
I was planing to go to Antelope Canyon this winter. Looked at tours and was shocked to see the last photo tour will be December 20th. No more after that!!! So, I’m now on the December 13th tour. Any advice, the rules seem somewhat strict (it does say my non photographer husband can go). Obviously a tripod, but any other advice is welcome. Did you do upper and lower Canyon? Horseshoe Bend, is it like other places where you have to get there hours before sunset to get a spot? (I went to Mesa Arch at 4:30am and was too late for a spot! And a pet peeve, non photographer spouses or companions were taking up space standing next to their friends tripod...)
Thanks for any advice! Oh the widest lens I have is a 17-40 for my 5D MIV, will I be disappointed?
Beth
I was planing to go to Antelope Canyon this winter... (show quote)


I was at Antelope Canyon two weeks ago. It was worth the cost. The guide told us about the elimination of the photo tours, but the regular tour gave us plenty of time to photograph. I braced myself for a slow shutter speed and bumped my Canon 80D ISO to 1600. (See attached.) Due to weather conditions, the rest of my photography vacation was a dud. I never did get decent images of Monument Valley or Mesa Verde. Maybe next time. Enjoy your trip.

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Dec 2, 2019 12:19:43   #
Dayton
 
Use the widest lens you have and be prepared for lots of fine dust.

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Dec 2, 2019 14:10:40   #
wdcarrier Loc: Eureka, California
 
I walked through alone in 1967. Quoting Pogo, "we have met the enemy and it is us!"

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Dec 2, 2019 16:32:25   #
PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Photolady2014 wrote:
I was planing to go to Antelope Canyon this winter. Looked at tours and was shocked to see the last photo tour will be December 20th. No more after that!!! So, I’m now on the December 13th tour. Any advice, the rules seem somewhat strict (it does say my non photographer husband can go). Obviously a tripod, but any other advice is welcome. Did you do upper and lower Canyon? Horseshoe Bend, is it like other places where you have to get there hours before sunset to get a spot? (I went to Mesa Arch at 4:30am and was too late for a spot! And a pet peeve, non photographer spouses or companions were taking up space standing next to their friends tripod...)
Thanks for any advice! Oh the widest lens I have is a 17-40 for my 5D MIV, will I be disappointed?
Beth
I was planing to go to Antelope Canyon this winter... (show quote)


Is your husband ok with having to be on a tripod ?????

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Dec 2, 2019 18:09:20   #
Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado
 
Fstop12 wrote:
My wife and I took the Upper Canyon Photo tour a few years ago. It was worth it to get the shots we wanted.
It was a very small group and our guide would tell us where to set up and show us exactly where the light beams would be hitting the floor and for how long. He also would hold back the hordes of other non-photographer groups of people coming through the slots. Yes, it's very dusty in the slots and changing lenses is not recommended. Our guide was also very knowledgeable about the different camera brands and settings and would show people how to set up their cameras to get good results. Last year we did the lower slot canyon non-photographer tour. Very crowded with people. My wife and I shot only with our IPhone's on that tour.
My wife and I took the Upper Canyon Photo tour a f... (show quote)


Seems they are very particular now! They will not allow you to go if you only have iPhones! They say it they do not help you with photos and if you have a non photographer spouse they must stay out of the way and no wandering off. Lots of rules... Oh well, I'm sure it will be great!

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Dec 2, 2019 18:10:47   #
Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado
 
PGHphoto wrote:
Is your husband ok with having to be on a tripod ?????


Actually he is usually my sherpa and helps me carry stuff. Such a nice guy. When we are in a crowed place he just stays near the back observing!

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Dec 2, 2019 18:14:01   #
Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado
 
steve49 wrote:
Notable comment on that.
I was on a photo tour, which was fine and allowed tripods...
6 people as I recall and a couple of them were screwing with their tripods for 1/2 the time
trying to figure them out.
practice ahead of time... time will be very limited in there.
know how to shoot up, sideways, etc smoothly and quickly.


Good info, thank you!

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