Bipartisan Agreement (Page 10): I already acknowledged that he said it. Nobody has, as of yet, posted up a link to a transcript ... including the links I did look up ... which leads me...

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

JohnFrim wrote:

So, did Putin say that or not?

I already acknowledged that he said it.

Nobody has, as of yet, posted up a link to a transcript ... including the links I did look up ... which leads me to believe its an out of context snippet.

The two of you could prove me wrong ... but haven't.

See John ... when one acts civil, I respond civil.

When someone acts like a flaming ass and then demands civility ... well, I don't make for a good victim/target.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

LWW wrote:

I have to disagree, I have watched him descend from reasonable poster to devout Rachelbot.

As much as I tried, I couldn’t save him by pulling back from the abyss.

For my failure, I apologize.

LWW (see, no Smell My Finger insult this time), with all due respect, there are times when you contribute interesting and meaningful ideas, but most of the time you are short with words (read a book; why do you lie) without providing anything concrete (what book? what is the lie?). I will deal with you in the same way that you deal with me. Let's take it up a notch, if you want to.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

JohnFrim wrote:

LWW (see, no Smell My Finger insult this time), with all due respect, there are times when you contribute interesting and meaningful ideas, but most of the time you are short with words (read a book; why do you lie) without providing anything concrete (what book? what is the lie?). I will deal with you in the same way that you deal with me. Let's take it up a notch, if you want to.

And the shortness is when someone is posting an obvious lie, or they have obviously not investigated he points upon which they desire to pontificate.

When a lie has been shown to be a lie multiple times yet its still repeated ... or when someone makes a claim and their own link disputes it ... I have no qualms in calling a liar a liar or suggesting they educate themselves on the topic.

When someone is such a snowflake the they feel they cannot be questioned ... that is their cross to bear and not mine.

Now, in closing, I have been subjected to numerous personal and family attacks for the sole reason that I was correct ... yet I have never seen you nor GH object to it.

Frank, Kraken, Tommy, Keenan ... and many more ... have launched far more vicious, personal, dishonest and vulgar attacks against myself and my family ... you were both deaf and blind to it. Why is that?

I don't particularly need y'alls backup ... but its telling that y'all will run to the defense of a liar that tells the lie you want to hear.

Y'all will excoriate Trump over a draft deferment while lionizing Klinton who fled to England. I'm not happy with either over it.

Y'all will crucify Trump for a $1T deficit ... which had to come from the house for a yes or no answer ... yet y'all make Obama a messiah for ruining the largest deficits in US history.

Y'all will convict Trump without trial for what he may or may not have done that may or may not have been legal, yet y'all will circle the wagons around Biden for bragging about actually doing what Trump is accused of.

If you can't see the hypocrisy in all of this, and I'm hoping you finally can, then I can't help you.

SHLeM52 Loc: Jacksonville, FL

Elaine2025 wrote:

Why don't you wait until that happens? Oh, wait, you believe Trump did that even with all the dems that shifty schiff called to testify saying it NEVER HAPPENED. You invent your own news.

SHLeM52 Loc: Jacksonville, FL

Frank T wrote:

SDNY has defined many crimes.
The state of NY has defined others.
Sooner or later, Trump will leave office and the law has a long memory.
I do wonder if Trump's cell will have a gold toilet.

Please Frank, you'll go to Jail before Trump will.

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

SHLeM52 wrote:

Please Frank, you'll go to Jail before Trump will.

Not likely. In fact I'd say your comment stems from ignorance and a lack of anything intelligent to say.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

Frank T wrote:

Not likely. In fact I'd say your comment stems from ignorance and a lack of anything intelligent to say.

Frank, you are already imprisoned by your own mind.

hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

LWW wrote:

So you don’t have a link either.

And was that not the outcome of the Schiff fiasco? No linkage.....

gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky

LWW - "Y'all will convict Trump without trial for what he may or may not have done that may or may not have been legal, yet y'all will circle the wagons around Biden for bragging about actually doing what Trump is accused of."

Post a link where Biden brags about bribing the president of a foreign country to obtain dirt on a political opponent.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

hondo812 wrote:

And was that not the outcome of the Schiff fiasco? No linkage.....

Excellent point.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

gorgehiker wrote:

LWW - "Y'all will convict Trump without trial for what he may or may not have done that may or may not have been legal, yet y'all will circle the wagons around Biden for bragging about actually doing what Trump is accused of."

Post a link where Biden brags about bribing the president of a foreign country to obtain dirt on a political opponent.

My gawd I can’t figure if you are that stupid or that brainwashed.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/27/flashback_2018_joe_biden_brags_at_cfr_meeting_about_withholding_aid_to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html

gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky

LWW wrote:

My gawd I can’t figure if you are that stupid or that brainwashed.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/27/flashback_2018_joe_biden_brags_at_cfr_meeting_about_withholding_aid_to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html

Again, after reading your transcript, I understand that Biden brags about withholding aid in exchange for firing a prosecutor. However, Biden absolutely does not tie the aid to the investigation of any personal political rival. Please point out which political rival is mentioned in the transcript of the Biden conversation. Show me where the withholding of the aid is tied to an investigation of Trump or any other political figure. BTW, several hundred Ukrainian citizens and many leaders of other countries were calling for the ouster of this prosecutor. Do you believe that the Ukrainian citizens and the other countries' leaders were members of the "deep state " who were trying to protect Hunter Biden?

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

LWW wrote:

I already acknowledged that he said it.

Nobody has, as of yet, posted up a link to a transcript ... including the links I did look up ... which leads me to believe its an out of context snippet.

The two of you could prove me wrong ... but haven't.

See John ... when one acts civil, I respond civil.

When someone acts like a flaming ass and then demands civility ... well, I don't make for a good victim/target.

I don't know why you need more context to see that Putin said he is happy that Ukraine is now being blamed for the 2016 election interference. What could you possibly read into that statement that would bring it into question? What proof do you need?

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

LWW wrote:

And the shortness is when someone is posting an obvious lie, or they have obviously not investigated he points upon which they desire to pontificate.

...

You asked me why I lied several posts ago regarding the Schiff parody of Trump's transcript. I said the timing according to Trump was wrong, and you said Schiff was already doing jibba-jabba.

Can you show me the evidence that Schiff did a parody of the call before the transcript was out?

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

LWW wrote:

My gawd I can’t figure if you are that stupid or that brainwashed.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/27/flashback_2018_joe_biden_brags_at_cfr_meeting_about_withholding_aid_to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html

I have an interest in this point as well, because I don't see the equivalence of the actions. Trump was doing his quid pro quo for personal political gain while Biden was acting for the US, UK, IMF, and even Ukrainian parliament. Even if there was collateral benefit for Hunter Biden, there was at least a legitimate reason for pushing for the firing of Shokin. Trump ONLY had personal reasons for the favour he asked.