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Nov 21, 2019 09:16:54   #
chippy65 Loc: Cambridge
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Why has evolution stopped?


What a stupid,stupid question ! Evolution takes place very very slowly. Think about the intertwined historical development of mankind and his

influence on his companion dog, evolved from the wolf,.Look at the different breeds of dog, sizes ,shapes, breeds. Evolution in action over the

last few hundred years.Look at the changes wrought by man on domesticated animals and crops............Evolution in action.

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Nov 21, 2019 09:22:36   #
Angmo
 
amyinsparta wrote:
Just another attempt to murder scientific enquiry. Sad. Why dont we just return to the 1200s. That way so called Christians can again chop heads off the blasphemers and burn women for being witches. That would likely make the 'holders of the faith's go into ecstatic states. Pathetic.


Muslims do this today.

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Nov 21, 2019 10:25:09   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
chippy65 wrote:
What a stupid,stupid question ! Evolution takes place very very slowly. Think about the intertwined historical development of mankind and his

influence on his companion dog, evolved from the wolf,.Look at the different breeds of dog, sizes ,shapes, breeds. Evolution in action over the

last few hundred years.Look at the changes wrought by man on domesticated animals and crops............Evolution in action.


Where are the apes turning into humans. Where is that evolution?
If it is ongoing then we should constantly still be seeing all the steps of evolution today.
Yes, we change domestic animals but that is not evolution.
Prove that the evolution of one species is turning into another by example.
You cannot.

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Nov 21, 2019 10:35:44   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Why has evolution stopped?


Are you serious? Or just trolling? Most times it's hard to tell.
Look outside. At the real world. We have force evolved by selective breeding.
Dogs? Cats? We can force evolve a new breed in a few years.
Coywolves. We forced them together. Now we have a new sustainable breed of canines.
Cats? There's a breed of cats theat evolved in Japan's sewers. Small, shortlegged, and quiet.
I lived in PA 70 years ago, and 170 pound deer were abundant. We killed all them. The remaining, breeding stock evolved into small antlered, maybe 100 pounders.

And people? 500 years ago if you didn't like the way that newborn was formed, you "gave it back to God" A bucket of water, float it downstream, or just left outside- 'twas God's will what happened to it.
Societies celebrated your "coming of age"; disease, accidents, predation eliminated the "unlucky" 50%
Nowadays? Our culture?
The autistic, allergic, hemophiliac, etc. are protected, admired, and encouraged to breed.
If you're upper middle class, or higher- educated, eat right, clever, successful- 1 or 2 kids.
Ill bred and ill fed- Section8, having 5 or more kids a few years apart is sustainable.
Read a book.
As the world goes bad, the far right will evolve into our Morlocks for us.

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Nov 21, 2019 11:23:36   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Harry0 wrote:
Are you serious? Or just trolling? Most times it's hard to tell.
Look outside. At the real world. We have force evolved by selective breeding.
Dogs? Cats? We can force evolve a new breed in a few years.
Coywolves. We forced them together. Now we have a new sustainable breed of canines.
Cats? There's a breed of cats theat evolved in Japan's sewers. Small, shortlegged, and quiet.
I lived in PA 70 years ago, and 170 pound deer were abundant. We killed all them. The remaining, breeding stock evolved into small antlered, maybe 100 pounders.

And people? 500 years ago if you didn't like the way that newborn was formed, you "gave it back to God" A bucket of water, float it downstream, or just left outside- 'twas God's will what happened to it.
Societies celebrated your "coming of age"; disease, accidents, predation eliminated the "unlucky" 50%
Nowadays? Our culture?
The autistic, allergic, hemophiliac, etc. are protected, admired, and encouraged to breed.
If you're upper middle class, or higher- educated, eat right, clever, successful- 1 or 2 kids.
Ill bred and ill fed- Section8, having 5 or more kids a few years apart is sustainable.
Read a book.
As the world goes bad, the far right will evolve into our Morlocks for us.
Are you serious? Or just trolling? Most times it's... (show quote)


In other words you cannot prove evolution?
Only human intervention.
Pathetic argument.

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Nov 21, 2019 11:55:41   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Architect1776 wrote:
In other words you cannot prove evolution?
Only human intervention.
Pathetic argument.


No one can prove creationism.

Oh they try, they lie, they twist the facts. There is no God. It’s a story. Get over it and live.

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Nov 21, 2019 12:02:48   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
chippy65 wrote:
YES YES..!


How did you arrive at this conclusion?

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Nov 21, 2019 12:04:05   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
RixPix wrote:
No one can prove creationism.


Hubble, LeMaitre, Hawking, Greene et al disagree with you.

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Nov 21, 2019 12:17:09   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
RixPix wrote:
No one can prove creationism.

Oh they try, they lie, they twist the facts. There is no God. It’s a story. Get over it and live.


There is no God? I understand now why you act the way you do.

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Nov 21, 2019 12:26:18   #
chippy65 Loc: Cambridge
 
LWW wrote:
How did you arrive at this conclusion?


I used my brain, I read widely, I rejected the force fed faith based fairy stories. Look at the evidence round you.

the "Big Bang" theory of creation, while not complete in all the evolutionary stages of development is a very convincing set of evidences

and is a beautiful, utterly convincing series of observations that satisfy my question " where did I come from "?

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Nov 21, 2019 12:39:54   #
cwp3420
 
chippy65 wrote:
As is often quoted on these pages.......... "Read some books" !!........scientific, peer reviewed, fully discussed based on observation of the known, observed and accepted facts.

I would place more reliance on Charles Darwin and others than in some 2000 + years ago camel herders fairy stories.

Look up on a clear night at the countless stars and even more numerous galaxies of unimaginable numbers of solar systems, some of which, at different stages of development

must be in the " Goldilocks Zone " and developing life ,behind or far in front of our present state of development.....does each one have its own set of Holy Books and a God that

demands blind faith and obedience ? The same god as here on Earth ?
As is often quoted on these pages.......... "... (show quote)


So you can’t answer it. I didn’t think so, but I thought I’d give you the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for playing though, Chippy, old boy, and all that rot, as they say.

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Nov 21, 2019 12:44:59   #
cwp3420
 
chippy65 wrote:
But if I subscribe to your views God gave me my brain and allowed me to think and reason. I cannot discount the everyday observations of geology and biology in favour

of a faith based distortion of creationism. I, and many other "evolutionists" can prove where we came from. You however can present no proof for your beliefs other than Faith.


Ok. Your turn again. It’s easy to say Darwin proved it. He didn’t “prove” anything. He merely hypothesized what he believed occurred. You say you believe it though. Kindly explain in detail exactly how each piece of the body came to be. In other words, use your wonderful scientific brain you developed to explain how that process worked. Prove to us why you believe it. Simply saying the word evolution does es not make it so, Chippy, old boy.

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Nov 21, 2019 12:46:38   #
cwp3420
 
chippy65 wrote:
I used my brain, I read widely, I rejected the force fed faith based fairy stories. Look at the evidence round you.

the "Big Bang" theory of creation, while not complete in all the evolutionary stages of development is a very convincing set of evidences

and is a beautiful, utterly convincing series of observations that satisfy my question " where did I come from "?


And where does it tell you you’re going when you breathe your last breath on Earth. I know where you’re going, Chippy, old boy, but do you?

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Nov 21, 2019 13:33:41   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
RixPix wrote:
No one can prove creationism.

Oh they try, they lie, they twist the facts. There is no God. It’s a story. Get over it and live.


Prove God does not exist.
Prove that there is no eternal soul.
Prove that there is no here after.
And your feelings are worthless on this.
Prove evolution and random events including this planet out of the universe.
Sure looks a lot different from the rest of the solar system and the moon is just the right size and orbit etc.
You cannot even begin to prove this is all a mistake or random.

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Nov 21, 2019 13:38:52   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
chippy65 wrote:
I used my brain, I read widely, I rejected the force fed faith based fairy stories. Look at the evidence round you.

the "Big Bang" theory of creation, while not complete in all the evolutionary stages of development is a very convincing set of evidences

and is a beautiful, utterly convincing series of observations that satisfy my question " where did I come from "?


Impossible, within your stated beliefs anyway.

By your own words, your belief system dictates that the decision that you came to ...this conclusion was set in place at the moment of creation.

By this belief, everything was put in motion irrevocably by the Big Bang ... therefor you had no free will to come to any conclusion of your own actions.

You, therefor, admit to being a bot with no free will at all.

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