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Nov 18, 2019 15:06:27   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Rongnongno wrote:
May I remind you that the question includes the following:

"if I know no other info about this image"????

That is why there is no answer however you want to slice it. I made the same error because I had not paid attention to the original question and like many went into you can using this or that... There is no 'this' or 'that'

A pixel has no size per say, it just the smallest amount of data used to create an array that in turns becomes an image. Sensors have a pixel per inch density that is then transformed into another pixel per inch on display, print, projection - whatever. None of these pixel has a size EVEN if the original gizmo to create that pixel had a microscopic size.
May I remind you that the question includes the fo... (show quote)


Ron, I was responding to "bleirer" in that last post. An image file has height and width pixel information and when a PPI is included in that file the dimensions can be calculated. While technically a data file is in itself dimensionless, for practical purposes the file does have size.

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Nov 18, 2019 15:15:47   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Rich1939 wrote:
Ron, I was responding to "bleirer" in that last post. An image file has height and width pixel information and when a PPI is included in that file the dimensions can be calculated. While technically a data file is in itself dimensionless, for practical purposes the file does have size.

Right but the question is not about practical but theoretical. The answer to that question is a simple 'No'.

Can you tell me the dimension of 2x2 with no other data? No. You get 4 but 4 of what?

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Nov 18, 2019 15:18:10   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Right but the question is not about practical but theoretical. The answer to that question is a simple 'No'.

Can you tell me the dimension of 2x2 with no other data? No. You get 4 but 4 of what?


I don't disagree, but again, I was responding to another post.

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Nov 18, 2019 17:59:15   #
bleirer
 
Since you (the OP) have Photoshop, try this: click the triangle in the bottom border of the document window.

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Nov 19, 2019 07:10:38   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Even this becomes an argument.

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Nov 19, 2019 09:28:44   #
garrickw Loc: Wyoming Mn.
 
Its easy for printing 300 dpi divide 300 into 2400x850= 8x2.5
some printers will print 240 dpi 240 into 2400x850= 10x3.5

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Nov 19, 2019 11:05:07   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
Oh come on folks the OP asked a simple question give him a simple answer. Here is one way, I'm fairly sure there other simple ways that don't require complex answers.

Open the file in almost any editing program, I use PS go to image size and it will give you the option of the size in ppi, inches or mm.

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Nov 19, 2019 13:13:50   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
It's call Mathematics. They used to teach it in Elementary Schools. JK. The serious replies above will help you.

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Nov 19, 2019 14:05:52   #
Mickey Finn
 
70 ppi for screen and internet. Min 300 ppi for print.

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Nov 19, 2019 21:42:57   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
will47 wrote:
This is just an example: if there is a image that is 2400 x 850 pixels is there any way to know the size in inches if I know no other info about this image? Thanks.


Divide the value in the EXIF “dpi” header into both dimensions. In this case, if it is 240 dpi, the image default size is 10” x 3.542”.

THAT SAID, you can make the image bigger or smaller by varying the reproduction dot size. Or, you can interpolate the image larger or sub-sample it smaller... at the same or a different resolution dpi.

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Nov 19, 2019 23:23:44   #
bleirer
 
burkphoto wrote:
Divide the value in the EXIF “dpi” header into both dimensions. In this case, if it is 240 dpi, the image default size is 10” x 3.542”.

THAT SAID, you can make the image bigger or smaller by varying the reproduction dot size. Or, you can interpolate the image larger or sub-sample it smaller... at the same or a different resolution dpi.


So does a jpeg out of a camera have a native image size or dpi value from the start, and if it does, is that a meaningless number since the same number of pixels can be switched to any resolution without resampling?

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Nov 19, 2019 23:41:25   #
Mickey Finn
 
I drive a Conon 7Dll and 5d III. Both have JPEG size settings.

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Nov 19, 2019 23:46:28   #
bleirer
 
Mickey Finn wrote:
I drive a Conon 7Dll and 5d III. Both have JPEG size settings.


I don't mean the file size/quality of jpeg, rather the dpi or image size.

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Nov 20, 2019 09:20:56   #
garrickw Loc: Wyoming Mn.
 
the size of the jpeg out of the camera before processing should be 300dpi so if the camera produces a size of 12x18 inch size that would be at 300dpi

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Nov 20, 2019 12:09:00   #
bleirer
 
I think I leaned a little something about this dpi. This helped. https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/29164590. So a file might have a dpi in the exif as well as an indication of the number of horizontal and vertical pixels, but that could be used, ignored, or over ridden by whatever software is displaying or printing the image. Without resampling the image pixel count is not changed, so you send a file to a printing service for an 8 by 10 and for a 16 by 20 the service is doing its own math based on the pixel count, not what the exif 'suggests.'

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