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Nov 17, 2019 21:45:22   #
Charles 46277 Loc: Fulton County, KY
 
Architect1776 wrote:
I just heard that Lomography is introducing a new colour negative film called, Lomochrome Metropolis.
With a small rise in interest in film lately this is somewhat intriguing. My daughter the other day called and was interested in a good used film camera and was wondering what to get so we discussed it and using film in general.
She has a couple of DSLRs and several lenses but it seems that among some younger people there is a bit of an interest in using film and experiencing the wait and the anticipation to see as well as the different look.
Has anyone else heard of this small movement of interest in film?
I just heard that Lomography is introducing a new ... (show quote)


I have a Canon 650D, which is the digital transformation (with cropped sensor) of the Rebel--which began as a film camera. Just for the option of full frame on the cheap, I picked up a film Rebel on eBay for peanuts and was shocked at how light the film camera was. The zoom that came with it can be used on Canon digitals, and the digital zooms can be used on it. I think the full frame film is equal in quality to full frame digital (or better), and the Rebel film camera has all the bells and whistles of digitals in terms of focus and exposure.

So that is worth trying at little expense. However, in the film days I soon ditched 35mm and went to medium format, then large format--perhaps my favorite was 5x7, and I had an enlarger for it (I just did black and white). Large format film cameras still have a following with artists and some pros--and amateur enthusiasts like me. I still have a Toyo system and a Graflex Speed Graphic system, and sometimes do b/w 4x5 without a dark room--develop in a daylight process gadget, then scan to digital. I tried many films, but there was never any comparison to my favorite film--ISO 125 b/w. You can attach digital cameras to the back of large format film cameras if you want the controls that those cameras offer (and the great lenses too), giving you both worlds in one system. I suspect that the real reason large format gave me such better results was that they make you take your time with each shot.

Here are samples of 125 ASA Kodak Plus X on the Lomography site.
https://www.lomography.com/films/871961678-kodak-plus-x-125-asa/photos

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Nov 17, 2019 22:11:06   #
Kletzentono
 
It’s interesting to see a resurgence of film. I still shoot 4x5 b&w sheet Film on my view camera, but the rest is digital (scanning and printing). The same with 35mm b&w film In my freezer are a couple of 100 feet reels. I have to hunt for cartridges to roll my own film. Developing is fine as I still have my tanks.

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Nov 17, 2019 23:28:51   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
I have about 25 rolls of unexposed APS (Advanced Photo System) B&W. Of course it is out of date, but if I took a chance on it and shot it, would it worth my time and could I get it developed. Perhaps, Dwaynes in Parsons Kansas. Is there a market for unexposed rolls of APS B&W?

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Nov 18, 2019 00:04:03   #
Wstrue
 
I’d better hang on to F2!

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Nov 18, 2019 00:21:19   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
It's not the same as vinyl vs cd quality. No one ever argues it sounds the same. Quality of digital vs film dont know.

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Nov 18, 2019 01:18:58   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Architect1776 wrote:
I just heard that Lomography is introducing a new colour negative film called, Lomochrome Metropolis.
With a small rise in interest in film lately this is somewhat intriguing. My daughter the other day called and was interested in a good used film camera and was wondering what to get so we discussed it and using film in general.
She has a couple of DSLRs and several lenses but it seems that among some younger people there is a bit of an interest in using film and experiencing the wait and the anticipation to see as well as the different look.
Has anyone else heard of this small movement of interest in film?
I just heard that Lomography is introducing a new ... (show quote)


Film cameras are easy to find at great prices. Just get a camera to match the lenses she has. I shoot film and digital and they are both great. There is a renewed interest in film photography and more new films will soon be available, especially black and white.

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Nov 18, 2019 06:45:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Soul Dr. wrote:
I have close to a 1000 LPs and about 200 cassette tapes, that I have been collecting for the last 10-15 years.
I also have older audio gear to play them on. At one time I had 18 turntables and about 20 pairs of speakers. Sold most of them as collection was taking up too much space.
Most of my music collection is rock from the mid 60s to the mid 80s. I also have classical and big band music.

will


Every holiday weekend, a local guy puts up a series of signs advertising his sale of vinyl records. I've never been there, but I've heard he has thousands.

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Nov 18, 2019 09:41:33   #
BebuLamar
 
ButchS wrote:
When asked about film cameras, most photographers recommend one of the simpler cameras, like the Pentax K 1000, etc. But my recommendation is to go for one of the auto focus film cameras. Preferably one that uses the same lenses as your current DSLR. I have always used Nikon cameras. My DSLR’s are Nikon. For film, I use a Nikon F4. Just because you are shooting film, doesn’t mean that you can’t take advantage of technology like autofocus.


If you want AF I think I would use a camera newer than the F4. It doesn't have to cost more because the F4 commands rather high price in the used market. The F4 doesn't work well with G lenses which are the majority today.

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Nov 18, 2019 10:15:20   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
If you want AF I think I would use a camera newer than the F4. It doesn't have to cost more because the F4 commands rather high price in the used market. The F4 doesn't work well with G lenses which are the majority today.

For about the same price as the F4, an F100 might be more suitable. The F100 works well with both D and G lenses.

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Nov 18, 2019 10:48:23   #
cigar dude Loc: South Central MA
 
selmslie wrote:
For about the same price as the F4, an F100 might be more suitable. The F100 works well with both D and G lenses.


I shoot film with a Nikon F5. Yeah its a heavy tank, but is amazing.

By the way The Darkroom (a lab in CA) put together a neat list of film available with reviews and a lot more.

https://thedarkroom.com/film-index/?goal=0_073d6add34-b34445ea3f-350583729&mc_cid=b34445ea3f&mc_eid=8496b41ce6

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Nov 18, 2019 11:23:57   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
I agree film will never regain its former supremacy. But can things be done during development and wet printing to achieve affects not possible digitally? Would such really be artistry and would it be obviously so on the gallery wall.


Architect1776 wrote:
At this point digital will not ever come close to being superseded by film. Film cannot be instagramed, tweeted, blogged or FB'd instantly. By the time the process is finished including digitizing the film the memory or event is ancient history and 40 others posted their digital photos of the same event etc.
Film will survive and likely do somewhat well but in a limited niche market. Yes, it will grow some but no way will it replace digital. Riding horses still exists, heck plowing fields with horses still exists but the original horsepower will never superseded the modern mechanical horsepower bar a global catastrophe like nuclear war on a global scale. Then all bets are off.
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Nov 18, 2019 11:24:13   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
selmslie wrote:
For about the same price as the F4, an F100 might be more suitable. The F100 works well with both D and G lenses.

"D" lens? Every AF Nikkor made since 1992 is a D lens.

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Nov 18, 2019 11:42:11   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Leitz wrote:
"D" lens? Every AF Nikkor made since 1992 is a D lens.

We are referring to lenses that include "D" in their name as opposed to "G" (or "S").

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Nov 18, 2019 11:55:45   #
ButchS Loc: Spokane, WA
 
selmslie wrote:
For about the same price as the F4, an F100 might be more suitable. The F100 works well with both D and G lenses.


I use the Nikon F4 because, of all the Nikon Autofocus film cameras, the F4 has the most complete backward compatibility with old Nikon lenses. I have about a dozen manual focus Nikon AI and AIS lenses. I also have about a dozen AF Nikkor lenses. None of which are "G" lenses. (I won't buy any G or DX lenses. Which is somewhat of a moot point, because with 24+ lenses I have, I don't anticipate ever needing to buy any additional lenses for my Nikons.)

I also love that the F4 has no LCD panels. All controls are dials and switches.

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Nov 18, 2019 12:10:41   #
BebuLamar
 
ButchS wrote:
I use the Nikon F4 because, of all the Nikon Autofocus film cameras, the F4 has the most complete backward compatibility with old Nikon lenses. I have about a dozen manual focus Nikon AI and AIS lenses. I also have about a dozen AF Nikkor lenses. None of which are "G" lenses. (I won't buy any G or DX lenses. Which is somewhat of a moot point, because with 24+ lenses I have, I don't anticipate ever needing to buy any additional lenses for my Nikons.)

I also love that the F4 has no LCD panels. All controls are dials and switches.
I use the Nikon F4 because, of all the Nikon Autof... (show quote)


I never bought an F4 but I have one that I never use. I either use the F3 for manual focus and the F5 for autofocus.

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