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Nov 12, 2019 10:16:04   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I am somewhat computer illiterate but went from a Windows machine to a MacPro in 2013. With the Windows based machine, no matter whether Dell or IBM I was constantly having to have it cleaned up because of a virus of some kind. I have never had a virus with the Mac. I also find the Mac somewhat easier for me to use. Of course everyone may not agree to that point but it is true for me. I will never have a Windows based machine again.

Dennis


Sounds like you had pretty bad security practices. If/when I need to use Windows, I don't encounter a constant need to clean off malware/spyware. That is all based on the user how dirty their computer gets.

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Nov 12, 2019 10:21:54   #
Dalek Loc: Detroit, Miami, Goffstown
 
I cannot stand Macs for this reason. They come out with really nice new models dripping with new technology, faster speed, and new internal drive concepts. I would love to buy one:however, their is absolutely nothing wrong with my 6-year old iMac 27 inch. It just keeps working and gives me no trouble. Thus, I have no justification to buy a new one. I cannot stand the way the iMac keeps working for all these years. I wish it would break! Now, my friend has a PC and every 18 months or so he gets a new one...it is not fare that iMac users have to suffer.

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Nov 12, 2019 10:33:33   #
lbrande
 
I personally do not like how the Apple OS or computers work. I have 30+ years experience on PC and 20+ yrs experience on OS. I do use IPad's, but use Android phones. I had found that the Apple phones did not work as well with MS products but my Android does.

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Nov 12, 2019 11:00:22   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
Dalek wrote:
I cannot stand Macs for this reason. They come out with really nice new models dripping with new technology, faster speed, and new internal drive concepts. I would love to buy one:however, their is absolutely nothing wrong with my 6-year old iMac 27 inch. It just keeps working and gives me no trouble. Thus, I have no justification to buy a new one. I cannot stand the way the iMac keeps working for all these years. I wish it would break! Now, my friend has a PC and every 18 months or so he gets a new one...it is not fare that iMac users have to suffer.
I cannot stand Macs for this reason. They come out... (show quote)


Yeah tell me about it. I have this crazy Dell I bought in 2003 that just won't quit. It's running as a file server right now, and for some reason refuses to let me down. I guess it doesn't read forums.

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Nov 12, 2019 11:28:50   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
will47 wrote:
I have never used a Mac, always Windows based. If I chose to switch to Mac how difficult is this? What could I expect and do I get anything better by doing so? Thanks.


Find a friend who uses Apple. Sit with him as he uses his computer. See for yourself how it flows. You will find Pros and Cons, but I switched to Apple in 1994 and will never go back to Windows based computer. Linux does not have the depth of offerings for a desktop computer, but it makes a great image server and free standing archive device.

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Nov 12, 2019 12:04:28   #
DK Loc: SD
 
Dalek wrote:
I cannot stand Macs for this reason. They come out with really nice new models dripping with new technology, faster speed, and new internal drive concepts. I would love to buy one:however, their is absolutely nothing wrong with my 6-year old iMac 27 inch. It just keeps working and gives me no trouble. Thus, I have no justification to buy a new one. I cannot stand the way the iMac keeps working for all these years. I wish it would break! Now, my friend has a PC and every 18 months or so he gets a new one...it is not fare that iMac users have to suffer.
I cannot stand Macs for this reason. They come out... (show quote)


I agree. I have had 5 Macs and only one stopped working. (The second one) I still use three of them and the first of the three I still use is super old. Wish I could remember how old. Two of them are MacBook Pros and the MacBook Air was purchased because it was easier to stick in a camera bag for a trip to Alaska in 2012. It still works as good as new.I find that all of the post processing that I need comes with the included Photos program. I use the rest of the included software for everything I need.

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Nov 12, 2019 12:06:21   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
will47 wrote:
I have never used a Mac, always Windows based. If I chose to switch to Mac how difficult is this? What could I expect and do I get anything better by doing so? Thanks.


Personal preference.
Both are the same as far as what they do.
I believe that Apple costs more for the same exact capability though.

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Nov 12, 2019 12:33:37   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
johngault007 wrote:
Sounds like you had pretty bad security practices. If/when I need to use Windows, I don't encounter a constant need to clean off malware/spyware. That is all based on the user how dirty their computer gets.


Absolutely-of course you must be correct. But when my IT professional told me that PC's tend to gather virus and malware often but Mac's don't I believed him. Now that I have owned a Mac for years I have never had one virus or malware problem. So you can believe that it was all me but my experience would show at least me that the Mac is a better machine in that regard.

Have a wonderful day,

Dennis

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Nov 12, 2019 12:34:57   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Dalek wrote:
I cannot stand Macs for this reason. They come out with really nice new models dripping with new technology, faster speed, and new internal drive concepts. I would love to buy one:however, their is absolutely nothing wrong with my 6-year old iMac 27 inch. It just keeps working and gives me no trouble. Thus, I have no justification to buy a new one. I cannot stand the way the iMac keeps working for all these years. I wish it would break! Now, my friend has a PC and every 18 months or so he gets a new one...it is not fare that iMac users have to suffer.
I cannot stand Macs for this reason. They come out... (show quote)




I sometimes wish something was wrong with my MacPro for the same reason. Darn Mac anyway.

Dennis

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Nov 12, 2019 13:14:55   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
I'm using my wife's MacPro until I get my PC fixed. It's nice. I don't think you gain anything. I think there are more programs available for PC than Mac. I like Windows Office Pro, for example.

Are you thinking about a Mac laptop? One problem with Apple is that once your laptop is out of warranty if you have a problem they don't diagnose it and then give you a price. They just give you a price. I think this is bassackwards and excessive. PC's are easier to repair.

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Nov 12, 2019 13:52:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
will47 wrote:
I have never used a Mac, always Windows based. If I chose to switch to Mac how difficult is this? What could I expect and do I get anything better by doing so? Thanks.


Not difficult - just different. For one thing, you don't have a C, D, E, etc., drive. It will take a bit of getting used to, but it's not a problem. There are online tutorials about switching.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=switching+from+windows+to+mac

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Nov 12, 2019 13:56:07   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Absolutely-of course you must be correct. But when my IT professional told me that PC's tend to gather virus and malware often but Mac's don't I believed him. Now that I have owned a Mac for years I have never had one virus or malware problem. So you can believe that it was all me but my experience would show at least me that the Mac is a better machine in that regard.

Have a wonderful day,

Dennis


I'm all in for a regular old Windows bashing any day. I only have one work laptop with Windows loaded, because I have to. As a network security professional, most intrusion attempts successful/unsuccessful can usually be traced back to a lapse in basic user security practices. I may have been a little forward in implying it was you (Dennis) and did not make it clear that I was stating that "you" was the general user that has issues. So my apologies.

MacOS has been a safer system for the most part, because of the very small market share, attackers typically go after the easier, and more widespread systems to affect as many hosts as possible. But there is no "safe" system if someone has enough time on their hands. The latest Mac OS update patched some very significant vulnerabilities.

Stay safe out there, and remember, that Nigerian Prince is a bad guy

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Nov 12, 2019 13:58:30   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Dalek wrote:
Thus, I have no justification to buy a new one.


Your thinking is all wrong. Your justification for buying a new one is simple: you want one.

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Nov 12, 2019 14:09:49   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
will47 wrote:
I have never used a Mac, always Windows based. If I chose to switch to Mac how difficult is this? What could I expect and do I get anything better by doing so? Thanks.


If you know PC's well, you'd find yourself quite lost with a Mac at first. I used to sell computers and we had a Mac department with sale persons that were well versed in Mac. They used to always say that the Mac would never lock up, they were fast, they could run Windows operating system therefore run applications for PC on your Mac, that the Mac was easy and on and on. I found this to be nonsense because I eventually found myself going over to the Mac department to play with them. We had several of them running Windows on them with MS Office and I found them to be VERY slow and sluggish when running PC software. Yes, it could do it, but it would lock up, was sluggish, acted like you were running a PC remotely with a lot of lag. Then there was the fact that the folder structure was different in that pictures went deep into a bunch of subfolders that were difficult to navigate. But I eventually figured out how. The only reason I knew how or could figure out how was because Windows kind of does the same thing with their "Picture" folder. Then there's installing hardware such as a printer. I have tried numerous times to help a friend named Bette to install a Canon Pro-100 printer and get it working on her Mac. I tried 2 years ago. Then I tired a few weeks ago. We have never got it to work. NEVER! I told her to call Canon and that's on her list of things to do. I'm very well versed at getting stuff like this to work on a PC. This printer is difficult to set up even on a PC but I eventually get it going without having to call anyone.

Mac is much more expensive than a PC. I'd say on the average they are 30-50% higher priced. I'd also say that any accessories that you buy for your Mac are the same - more expensive. But they do work well and have very little problem getting them to work properly and this is because Apple is very picky about the accessories and don't let other companies make substitutes for products they themselves make. Well, kind of. Like a mouse. You can get a mouse to work from 3rd parties, but the mouse that Apple makes, is guaranteed to work flawlessly.. and they do. Apple used to make printers but I don't think they do make them any longer. So they have to rely on 3rd parties to make them and write the drivers for them.

As far as ease of use, I call BS again. I have tried many things that I know well on a PC only to find out that I can't get the Mac to do it or that it would be a hidden thing that I'd have to be an expert to do. Really? an expert? Well I thought Mac were supposed to be easy and that you didn't need to be an expert to do anything on them. That's what they kind of imply.

I could go on and on about how I feel about a Mac but in the long run it's up to you. I say that since you have been using a PC for a long time that you stick with what you know. The only other advice is that if you do stick with a PC, always buy a trusted name brand with good tech support. Always buy and install legit software so that you can get support. I have Adobe products on my PC and have had to use their tech support once when they did a major upgrade to LR and Photoshop. My video drivers on my computer needed an update and I could have done this myself, but didn't know that was the problem. So Adobe took control of my PC as I watched my screens and they performed the update for me. Everything worked fine after that. If I had bootleg software, this would have been a haunting experience for me I'm sure.

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Nov 12, 2019 14:27:06   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
will47 wrote:
I have never used a Mac, always Windows based. If I chose to switch to Mac how difficult is this? What could I expect and do I get anything better by doing so? Thanks.

Long story short: it is not at all difficult to switch. What could you expect better? Fewer performance issues, fewer crashes, better plug-and-play performance and better overall stability. As someone in an earlier post stated, it simply works.

Background: I used windows-based computers beginning ~1985 running MS DOS 2.11, and went through all subsequent operating system versions. I finally got fed up with crappy Windows versions (do you recall Windows ME, Windows Vista, Windows 8 or even Microsoft Bob?), switched to MacBook Pro in 2014 and have been very happy. I do have Parallels installed to run Windows for the 1 or 2 essential programs that have no Mac version. And they run well under Parallels, no sluggishness or lag whatsoever.

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