duane klipping Loc: Bristow iowa

The problem with the news media is just reporting the news makes for boring stories. So they tweek the news into stories even if that means making it sensational and dramatic. There are no true journalists left anymore. And the sheep sit there night after night believing the twisted stories they share. A form of entertainment not news.

duane klipping Loc: Bristow iowa

Then it is fake because it does not report the FACTS as they are.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Not all the time.
Sometimes only the facts that would get the most attention.

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

Excellent analysis.

toxdoc42

Despite my desire not to bring politics and science doubting into this discussion, it appears that the writer of the original post is a science denier. That said, if you cherry pick your facts, you can develop a stance that favors your particular beliefs. The accumulated scientific evidence is that we are in a significant climate change period that is unprecedented in history. You can try to deny that, but there are very view credible scientists that disagree with this interpretation of evidence. What proportion is directly related to human activity may be debatable but it is clear that some is.

Scientists have been warning about the implication of this for several decades and there has been little response to their warnings. An worldwide effort to reverse the human causes was agreed upon in the Paris accord. Whether or not you happen to like the geopolitics, it was a concerted effort to attempt to at least prevent further changes, perhaps reverse the trends. The previous US administration agreed to have the US make major efforts to decrease the human-related causes. The current administration, as you know, decided to pull the US out of that agreement. worse, it decided to reverse many of the efforts engineered to help slow the US's human-related addition to climate change.

California has played a rather unique role in environmental controls for decades. It was the first to deal with automobile pollution and the requirements for control of automobile exhaust pollution led to the production of automobiles with decreased production of many harmful substances. Historically, the single greatest influence that lowered the geometric blood lead levels in children throughout the US appears directly related to the removal of lead from gasoline which was actually designed not to protect the children, which happened as a side effect of the action, but to protect the automobile's catalytic convertor which became a requirement to decrease smog-producing hydrocarbons, and also managed to decrease the production of carbon monoxide, a silent killer.

Back to the statistics about forest fires, there are multiple sources of information. The Insurance Information Institute (iii), "publishes its statistics. I've attached 2 of the graphics that the iii has on its Its website declares : https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-wildfires

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Let us not editorialize on the problem. We have known about this problem for decades, we know how to work to stabilize and or reverse the trend. Our children and their children, and many generations to come, depend on us making the correct decisions.

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Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal

If it wasn't for cars, a lot of radio stations wouldn't exist.
If it wasn't for commercials, a lot of news casts wouldn't exist.
That guy looked right in the camera and took 30 seconds to tell me about that thing that's coming up after these car and feminine product commercials, and it took 15 seconds to tell me the thing. More car and fast food commercials, and right after this .. Then I get a 30 second commercial about the news program I'm already watching, in front of a large bright Audi symbol and grill underlay, with a bottom lower 5th banner extolling "the Popeyes Chicken sandwich is back!" on top of the rolling news banner. 20 seconds ago.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

It's like the winter weather forecasts here in Dallas. You'd think the next ice age was coming the way weathermen react to the slightest chance of snow. We've got school districts cancelling classes without even seeing a snowflake hit the ground....and sometimes it doesn't.

toxdoc42

They are trying to prevent children from being injured. Dallas is well known for its sudden ce storms which lead to very dangerous conditions.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

I know those conditions and am very cautious about precipitation around freezing temperatures. That's not what I'm talking about. Are you from Texas or the Dallas area? It's almost hilarious the school closings that are announced the night before. At least DISD waits to see how conditions actually develop before announcing a cancellation.

toxdoc42

I have relatives living in Texas. I was there once when a sudden hail storm hit damaging every plane at the airport.

I agree, sometimes, the schools here also close too far in advance. They should wait and see if the storm really will hitbrather than cancel the full day before.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

I watch the weather forecasts all the time. Doplar weather is amazing. They can see hail in the thunderstorms. The hail may have seemed sudden to you, but the weather forecasters saw it on doplar.

Hamltnblue Loc: Springfield PA

Toxdoc, get some education and stop drinking the Al Gore cool-aid.
Southern Kalifornia is basically a desert. If you live on a slope in a mixed climate you'll get the fires, followed by the mudslides. It happens every year.
Some think that because they took a couple of courses headed by people that couldn't hold a job in the real world, they are intelligent.
The fact is that many times they lack common sense and have no idea that a giant fireball is over them every day.
The true term for the so called science deniers is BS deniers.
If 1/100th of what the cool-aid warming fanatics believed was true, Kalifornia would be the coolest state in the country.
The state and their socialist politicians are screwed up, people have to use goats to clear weeds because they aren't allowed to do it themselves. It helped save the Reagan library.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/hungry-goats-helped-save-reagan-library-california-wildfire-180973461/

toxdoc42

I am happy you helped save the Reagen Library. Please don't be so condescending, there is no reason to attack me here. Scientists far smarter than you or me have developed a consensus opinion about climate warming. There are virtually no opposition opinion based on any science.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

My father-in-law was dean of forestry at Stephen F. Austin State University, at the time the second largest forestry school in the country next to Minnesota. I'd consider him an expert scientist in the field of forestry. He said decades ago that if the scrub wasn't cleared out of a forest via controlled burn primarily you'd have these kind of fires. He was right. Combined with some of the other situations California has, you've got a perfect storm.

If environmentalists don't want to remove the scrub because the brush is part of nature, then the resulting fires must also be accepted as part of nature. However, if you're going to build thousands of houses "in nature," you've got to control it.