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Oct 24, 2019 08:11:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Obviously, it means straight out of the camera. Take the picture, upload it to a computer, and there it is - straight out of the camera. No mystery. It doesn't matter what the camera does to it. If the camera did no processing, you'd have nothing but thousands of 1s and 0s.

If the camera did pre-processing, you'd still have nothing but 1s and 0s.

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Oct 24, 2019 08:12:18   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
jerryc41 wrote:
...No mystery. It doesn't matter what the camera does to it...
Therein is, I believe, the OP's point. It is nonsensical to differentiate between in-camera adjustments (now that there are so many available) and what the photographer does in pp.

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Oct 24, 2019 08:21:03   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
On UHH it means there will be 15 pages of meaningless arguments within 24 hours and nobody will be a better photographer when it's over. Sorry, Phil 🤗

It's your image, do what you like to it:
https://digital-photography-school.com/its-your-image-do-what-you-like-to-it/

What's important in a photograph and what isn't:
https://photographylife.com/whats-important-in-a-photograph-and-what-isnt

.


We'll put Linda..

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Oct 24, 2019 08:22:16   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Therein is, I believe, the OP's point. It is nonsensical to differentiate between in-camera adjustments (now that there are so many available) and what the photographer does in pp.

Exactly!

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Oct 24, 2019 08:26:08   #
L-Fox
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
JPEG is far better than full frame, and you should always use a lens hood rather than a tripod.

Mike


ROFLMAO!

Such subtle rebuke...

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Oct 24, 2019 08:28:29   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Longshadow wrote:
If the camera did pre-processing, you'd still have nothing but 1s and 0s.


My humble 15+ page input, to help Linda's prediction come true....hehe, here goes.

Sooc means not processed outside of camera and it is ready for use, upload,printing etc...If you make settings that alters the photo in camera, it's letting the camera make decisions by internal presets, so to speak.....I would rather make my own adjustments while seeing the results immediately..but then that requires FULL MANUAL on camera, which some don't do.

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Oct 24, 2019 08:35:25   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
repleo wrote:
If I take a shot with my phone camera and process it on the phone with the Lightroom app, is it SOOC ? (Straight Out Of Camera). What if I use one of the Scene modes on my regular camera and the camera does the processing? My Sony has an app that allows me to set up three areas with different exposures and color temperatures in the same shot and blends them in-camera. Is that SOOC? Is it really any different to letting the camera process an Auto jpeg? What about in-camera lens correction or HDR?
Is letting some engineer in Japan determine how my image is supposed to look any more purist than me deciding how I want it to look?
If I take a shot with my phone camera and process ... (show quote)

It means the camera manufacturer got to determine the colors, contrast, brightness, sharpness, and saturation of the image you think you created all by yourself.

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Oct 24, 2019 08:38:27   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
On UHH it means there will be 15 pages of meaningless arguments within 24 hours and nobody will be a better photographer when it's over. Sorry, Phil 🤗

It's your image, do what you like to it:
https://digital-photography-school.com/its-your-image-do-what-you-like-to-it/

What's important in a photograph and what isn't:
https://photographylife.com/whats-important-in-a-photograph-and-what-isnt

.


Linda usually gets it correct!

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Oct 24, 2019 08:38:56   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
repleo wrote:
If I take a shot with my phone camera and process it on the phone with the Lightroom app, is it SOOC ? (Straight Out Of Camera). What if I use one of the Scene modes on my regular camera and the camera does the processing? My Sony has an app that allows me to set up three areas with different exposures and color temperatures in the same shot and blends them in-camera. Is that SOOC? Is it really any different to letting the camera process an Auto jpeg? What about in-camera lens correction or HDR?
Is letting some engineer in Japan determine how my image is supposed to look any more purist than me deciding how I want it to look?
If I take a shot with my phone camera and process ... (show quote)


Really? Sorry, this thread will do nothing to improve my knowledge and skill level. I will leave it to the uninformed to continue this tripe.

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Oct 24, 2019 08:39:08   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
JPEG is far better than full frame, and you should always use a lens hood rather than a tripod.

Mike



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Oct 24, 2019 08:44:24   #
wetreed
 
I think you should always do as much as possible in the camera before you take the photo and use limited PP only when necessary. I almost never use PP, but that is just me.

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Oct 24, 2019 08:49:45   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
It is nonsensical to differentiate between in-camera adjustments (now that there are so many available) and what the photographer does in pp.

True, given that the raw data is not really an image until processed. Yet, there are certainly differences between making "adjustments" -- whether in-camera or by post-processing software -- that simply re-create what was actually seen (yes, it is subjective), versus introducing unrealistic exaggeration of hue/saturation/sharpening, etc., versus replacing skies, removing objects/people, plopping in sun rays or full moons, etc.

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Oct 24, 2019 08:49:51   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Therein is, I believe, the OP's point. It is nonsensical to differentiate between in-camera adjustments (now that there are so many available) and what the photographer does in pp.


Set a menu item on the camera, move a slider in your editor of choice. The end result is the same in both cases, which is, hopefully, a better photograph.

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Oct 24, 2019 08:58:53   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jackpinoh wrote:
It means the camera manufacturer got to determine the colors, contrast, brightness, sharpness, and saturation of the image you think you created all by yourself.

Interesting.
I can set some processing sliders in the camera, different than the default settings.

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Oct 24, 2019 09:01:17   #
jerseymike
 
repleo wrote:
If I take a shot with my phone camera and process it on the phone with the Lightroom app, is it SOOC ? (Straight Out Of Camera). What if I use one of the Scene modes on my regular camera and the camera does the processing? My Sony has an app that allows me to set up three areas with different exposures and color temperatures in the same shot and blends them in-camera. Is that SOOC? Is it really any different to letting the camera process an Auto jpeg? What about in-camera lens correction or HDR?
Is letting some engineer in Japan determine how my image is supposed to look any more purist than me deciding how I want it to look?
If I take a shot with my phone camera and process ... (show quote)


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