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Oct 23, 2019 08:52:54   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
An easy place to start (usually free) is with the Post Processing product(s) offered by your camera manufacturer. If Nikon, Canon, Sony, Fuji, etc. look at their website, look at the products offered on their sites and they usually offer tutorials. That will introduce the process and help get your feet wet (or more). While doing that you can also look into all the other (and more powerful, more capable) products, and gain input from the community. There are books and guides available, look into that as well.

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Oct 23, 2019 09:38:50   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
I like Photoshop Elements. It has Quick, Guided, and Expert editing modes for an easy learning curve and a powerful Organizer data base to categorize and tag your photos. If you’re not sure how a data base works, be sure to study up on it a bit plus knowing how your computer operating system manages files.

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Oct 23, 2019 10:37:11   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Adobe Elements is inexpensive (about $100) and has a lot of built-in support for new users. There also are lots of books and classes about it, if needed. There are also a number of plug-ins available to expand it's capabilities later, if needed.

Adobe updates Elements annually with a new version. But you don't need to buy it unless you got a new camera that's not supported by your older version or there's some new feature that you just gotta have.

Elements 2020 has just been released and is now available. Elements 2019 is still available too, and might be on clearance sale.

Elements (photography) is available bundled at a discount with Elements "Premiere" for video, if you need both.

There are free 30-day trial versions of these available at the Adobe website, if you want to try before you buy.

If you are going to do a trial, you might want to buy one of the "how to" books first, to be able to get the most out of the trial period.

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Oct 23, 2019 11:29:59   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, nothing has been beat to death, except maybe, what lens do I take on vacation. But I'm pretty sure that's more about the vacation than the lens.
Sure, lots of things have been discussed lots of times, but as you pointed out, there are always new members who have not participated in every conversation.
If a member doesn't feel like participating in a conversation, don't.
I guess it has a lot to do with the grumpy old men factor that's so prevalent here. I'm recently retired but by UHH standards, I'm a youngster here, even though I have been a member for 4 years now. I just hope I don't turn into one of those grumpy old men.
If people simply want information, Google or Bing are far superior resources than UHH, but UHH offers something the mighty search engines don't, conversation, the reason social media exists. Why is it that so many members don't get the concept that UHH is social media. How many potential new members have been driven away because the grumpy old men got to them?!
As far as I'm concerned, nothing has been beat to ... (show quote)


I think you answered it, grumpy old men (I'd hate to think what the average age is on here. I'm sure I'm one or two standard deviations below the mean even at age 65). A lot of us Baby Boomers and above are not as comfortable or tolerant of Social Media "youngsters" are. But I do easily get bored with the same repeated questions and answers unless they have an original or unusual spin or take on a topic. But defining Aperture, ISO, Raw, etc., over and over, please! Perhaps it's my ADHD but I get bored with so many repeats. OK, sure, don't read it. But how will I find an interesting take or even possibly learn something new on it myself until I read it?

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Oct 23, 2019 13:38:14   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I saw excellent advice yesterday (sorry, can't recall from whom) that you shouldn't think in terms of learning the entire "Photoshop." Apparently, nobody ever knows everything in PS Instead, start out by picking a couple of actions you want to do, and learn that -- via You-Tube, online articles etc.

PS Elements has 3 layouts: quick, guided, expert. I think that helps novices not become overwhelmed, but it's still good advice IMO to choose one or two editing tools and learn those well, then move to whatever is next on your list of things you'd like to know.
I saw excellent advice yesterday (sorry, can't rec... (show quote)


That Linda is a great idea. Thank you for bringing it up from the op. I know this sounds stupid but I don't understand why I never thought of that. 😂

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Oct 23, 2019 14:40:43   #
Photoguy120
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I think you answered it, grumpy old men (I'd hate to think what the average age is on here. I'm sure I'm one or two standard deviations below the mean even at age 65). A lot of us Baby Boomers and above are not as comfortable or tolerant of Social Media "youngsters" are. But I do easily get bored with the same repeated questions and answers unless they have an original or unusual spin or take on a topic. But defining Aperture, ISO, Raw, etc., over and over, please! Perhaps it's my ADHD but I get bored with so many repeats. OK, sure, don't read it. But how will I find an interesting take or even possibly learn something new on it myself until I read it?
I think you answered it, grumpy old men (I'd hate ... (show quote)



So are you reading articles that you feel certain that your competence level is satisfactory to possibly learn or just to irritate yourself. I was unsure. How about reading to assist someone else. You might find that in your explanation that you are not as competent as you think.

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Oct 23, 2019 15:43:41   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
“ Undecided but in a need of” ....a complete request?
Please state what you want in the title in the future.


Getting members to do that is about as easy as getting Putin to stop his meddling with our country.
This advice has been given here countless times, and it doesn't seem to affect posters one bit. >Alan.

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Oct 23, 2019 15:56:46   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
aellman wrote:
Getting members to do that is about as easy as getting Putin to stop his meddling with our country.
This advice has been given here countless times, and it doesn't seem to affect posters one bit. >Alan.


Well, this OP read my post and other advice and seems to understand.
One down, 1,000 to go!

OneShotOne18 wrote:
Thanks gang! Sorry about being so vague on the headliner. Now, have a bit more to work with.

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Oct 23, 2019 17:10:17   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
bobmcculloch wrote:
Check out Corel Paint Shop Pro, does just about everything, reasonable price, I found it easy to learn, lots of info on the help tab.


I have used this for YEARS, from the pre-Corel years to the latest 2019 edition. Has done all that I need. And much cheaper than the big boys.

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Oct 23, 2019 17:11:58   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I think you answered it, grumpy old men (I'd hate to think what the average age is on here. I'm sure I'm one or two standard deviations below the mean even at age 65). A lot of us Baby Boomers and above are not as comfortable or tolerant of Social Media "youngsters" are. But I do easily get bored with the same repeated questions and answers unless they have an original or unusual spin or take on a topic. But defining Aperture, ISO, Raw, etc., over and over, please! Perhaps it's my ADHD but I get bored with so many repeats. OK, sure, don't read it. But how will I find an interesting take or even possibly learn something new on it myself until I read it?
I think you answered it, grumpy old men (I'd hate ... (show quote)


At 85 I'm still learning and find UH most helpful.

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Oct 23, 2019 17:19:33   #
LinHSNW
 
Also, the new user can their feet wet with Gimp. It's free and pretty comprehensive.

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Oct 23, 2019 17:27:13   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
aellman wrote:
Getting members to do that is about as easy as getting Putin to stop his meddling with our country.
This advice has been given here countless times, and it doesn't seem to affect posters one bit. >Alan.


Putin is doing nothing more than what we have been doing in other countries for years and years and years.

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Oct 23, 2019 18:46:17   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Luminar is very good, lots of presets, YouTube videos etc
Skylum.com

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Oct 23, 2019 19:45:37   #
Photoguy120
 
revhen wrote:
At 85 I'm still learning and find UH most helpful.


Just a few years behind you and still learning. I’m still working as a software developer. Never too old to learn, unless you just don’t want to.

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Oct 23, 2019 21:14:28   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Photoguy120 wrote:
So are you reading articles that you feel certain that your competence level is satisfactory to possibly learn or just to irritate yourself. I was unsure. How about reading to assist someone else. You might find that in your explanation that you are not as competent as you think.


Actually I do sometimes explain things to organize my thoughts. That was a good tool for writing lesson plans when I was teaching. Thing is, and I have noticed other UHH'ers have noticed this too, the more we write or the more thorough we write the fewer people seem to read all the way through it. Most people just seem to want short reactions or social interaction and not real learning in the academic sense. This is why some of us point to well written articles on line. And yes, many of us, including myself do write long explanations even if is is for want. Not to brag but your reply begs more of my background. I've been doing photography since 1977. I've used many types of film cameras from 35mm Rangefinders to 6x6cm TLR, 6x7cm Medium Format, 4x5", and 8x10" view cameras. Since I have always also had an interest in Science as well as Art I own a lot of technical photographic technique books as well: UV, IR, Photo-microscopy, Macro-photography, Scientific/Technical Field Photography, etc. And a ton of Darkroom Manuals and Books I really no longer use (but for B&W film processing). In practice I do mostly digital photography these days for fun.

Like I said, I do look for posts on the UHH that I can learn from but do get sick of the tremendous amount of repeats.

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