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Oct 14, 2019 09:47:51   #
Orson Burleigh Loc: Annapolis, Maryland, USA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Everything becomes clear when you see you need a new camera.



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Oct 14, 2019 09:49:35   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Orson Burleigh wrote:
Whenever articles about digital sensor equipped backs adapted to older SLRs are published, I quickly run through in the hope that I'll see my 1970 vintage Canon TL listed as one for which a digital back is now available. Alas, to this date I have not seen even a serious suggestion that such a back will be developed for those old Canons.

It would be good fun to see just how usable that match-needle metering, split-prism ground-glass center circle manual focus Canon camera and the two Canon FL lenses (50mm f/1.8 and 200mm f/3.5) would be with aged, but surgically enhanced (cataract surgery), eyes. The camera and lenses were last used early in this century, to very good effect, by my daughter when she took a basic-equipment-specific photography class pertinent to her Georgia Tech Masters in Industrial Design (Go It You Ramblin Wrecks)

I suppose that this is a vote for yes on 'Equipment Counts.' The Canon TL camera, 50mm f/1.8 FL and 200mm f/3.5 FL lenses made a pretty good rig in the early '70s. If nothing else, that camera would resurrect some rose-tinted memories of youth in Sunny Southeast Asia in the early 1970s.
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You won't get 'match-needle metering', but you can test / use your TL (and FD) lenses on a Sony mirrorless body via a cheap FD to E adapter. Even better, you can zoom to 10x and 'see' your focus in the viewfinder. You can do the same on an EOS-R, see this link that includes some example results: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-614222-1.html . Even even better: in camera image stablization. Even even even better: metering w/ histogram (if desired) in the electronic view finder (EVF).

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Oct 14, 2019 10:23:35   #
b top gun
 
My daughter had her choice when I got my D7100; she chose my D80; I sold my D300 to help finance the D7100. I now have a D850. However, I use the D7100 regularly. The attached image was taken with the D7100 and 18-70 kit lens that came with my original Nikon DSLR, a D70s. I have started using the D7100 for some video work; usually will mount my Nikkor 28mm manual focus prime and shoot some video or stills with that combination. It's is a lighter combo than a 24-70 on the D850 and some days I do not feel like carrying the extra weight when I am OK with the results from the D7100. IF it is a serious shooting day for me, I have the D850 with 24-70, and mount a 70-200 on the D7100. I really do not like changing lenses if I can avoid it especially in the field. For low light work, for sure the D850.


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Oct 14, 2019 10:26:48   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
b top gun wrote:
My daughter had her choice when I got my D7100; she chose my D80; I sold my D300 to help finance the D7100. I now have a D850. However, I use the D7100 regularly. The attached image was taken with the D7100 and 18-70 kit lens that came with my original Nikon DSLR, a D70s. I have started using the D7100 for some video work; usually will mount my Nikkor 28mm manual focus prime and shoot some video or stills with that combination. It's is a lighter combo than a 24-70 on the D850 and some days I do not feel like carrying the extra weight when I am OK with the results from the D7100. IF it is a serious shooting day for me, I have the D850 with 24-70, and mount a 70-200 on the D7100. I really do not like changing lenses if I can avoid it especially in the field. For low light work, for sure the D850.
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If the horse don't pull you got to carry the load.
I don't know whose back's that strong, maybe find out before too long.

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Oct 14, 2019 10:33:25   #
srt101fan
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If the horse don't pull you got to carry the load.
I don't know whose back's that strong, maybe find out before too long.


Oh, my....The CHG_CANONisms have now turned poetic! Do we need a new UHH section??

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Oct 14, 2019 10:54:08   #
nikonnate Loc: Woodbury MN
 
Funny to find this thread this morning. I booted my old point-n-shoot (a Fuji Z33WP) and sure enough it worked. I wanted to see if I could tweak any of the important settings or get a raw file off of it. The first thing I found was that it still had a few files stored on the internal memory from January of 2010. A brief little trip down memory lane, but they were soon deleted, and I also found no such ability to tweak any settings. I lost interest in it almost immediately.

And dang it's little... like a 5/8" thick credit card.

There's no way I'd use it for much other than a dunk in a creek while I'm fishing. It takes pictures, I guess. This photographer outgrew the tool that got him started.

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Oct 14, 2019 10:57:41   #
b top gun
 
Took the granddaughter to Disneyland right after school got out for summer. I had the D850 with 24-70 with me and had the D7100 with 28mm prime in a locker in either Disneyland or California Adventure across the way. No way I was doing that trip without backup gear. Attached was taken on Wednesday June 5th at Galaxy's Edge which had opened on Friday May 31st. At that time access to Galaxy's Edge was by reservation only and you had a four hour window before storm troopers escorted you out!!! Disneyland official photographers use Nikon gear exclusively; I got to chat with a couple of them when they were not busy.


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Oct 19, 2019 15:05:40   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I disagree. It's not simply all about the optics these days. That may be true with film cameras but there's way more to it with digital cameras. Film cameras must work with the light available to them, but digital cameras have electronics on their side.
Optics are very important but so is the image sensor and most important, the digital image micro processor.
I can put my EF 28-300L lens on my Canon 10D or my M50 or my 5D mk IV or my 5DSr. Do you believe the IQ will be exactly the same because I used the same optics?! No, it definitely will NOT. In digital photography it not just about the optics, it's about the whole camera.
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In the third paragraph of my reply I said:

Newer bodies provide newer sensors tech which can have an incremental effect on resolution and dynamic range.

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Oct 19, 2019 15:10:16   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The young man who already lusts for newer gear is already an old man.

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Oct 19, 2019 18:27:06   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The young man who already lusts for newer gear is already an old man.


But what about us old men who lust for older gear?

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Oct 23, 2019 09:34:53   #
David Taylor
 
Can I ask for a link to this "There is currently an active discussion of this subject which is rapidly approaching 300 posts" Thanks in advance.

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Oct 23, 2019 09:39:26   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
AndyH wrote:
But what about us old men who lust for older gear?


I know what YOUNG gear this old man could use.

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