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Oct 22, 2019 08:49:17   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
My Panasonic Lumix G9 can shoot 60 fps with single autofocus or 20 fps with continuous, also with preburst mode. It can also create an 80mp image by using pixel shift.

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Oct 22, 2019 09:02:21   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
wdross wrote:
Both the Olympus E-M1mkII and E-M1X will shoot 35 RAW shots of 20mp before the pressing of the shutter followed by 60 RAW shots per second after the pressing of the shutter. The process is called Pro Capture by Olympus. It allows a pro to "miss" capturing the actual peak moment and yet still have captured the moment in the pre-capture. And now Olympus has added a third camera to the Pro Capture but not quite as powerful. The brand new E-M5mkIII has a Pro Capture I believe of 16 RAW shot at 20mp but I believe a slower capture rate than the 60fps after that (a poor man's E-M1mkII). Other than Olympus, I know of no other manufacturer that offers a Pro Capture yet. Pro Capture imaging can only be done with a mirrorless camera.
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Back in the day when photographers knew what they were doing they only needed ONE exposure to get it right.
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Oct 22, 2019 09:54:14   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
MrBob wrote:
You are prob. referring to the Pro Capture mode on the new Olympus OM-D mark2. In Pro Capture Mode which you set by the dial, the camera buffers a series of full res. 20 mp images until you fully depress shutter button. your image plus 14 previous images in jpeg/raw will be recorded. I believe there is a way to capture 60 fpm also... I don't have the feature on my M1 so I have no direct experience. Sounds pretty wild though. Oly is pretty innovative in areas like this. The M1x has some pretty innovative features also which incorporate a little AI in focusing...Hope this leads you in the right direction. Bob
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My iPhone can do that with its Live Mode. Not at those resolutions but the technology is similar.

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Oct 22, 2019 10:29:24   #
WDCash Loc: Milford, Delaware, USA
 


Are you stating that the Sony a7rIV has this same feature?

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Oct 22, 2019 12:12:54   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 


It is neat to see the sensor shift imaging that Olympus developed moving into other cameras now. One needs big chips for the 240mp shots if they do a lot.

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Oct 22, 2019 12:58:45   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 


Yes and no. Yes, the best photographers developed a great sense of timing along with their intimate experiences of the camera's timing to produce many of the great shots. But I also know that they missed many shots because I know even the best photographer is not "on target" 100% of the time. How many more great shots would we have had with a digital Pro Capture mode back then? And, in fact, it was for that very fact that motor drives of 10 and 15 frames per second were developed. I can still hear my teacher telling me about pros "burning" through the film to get the shots with their cameras at full blast motordrive. They even made bulk film backs for cameras back then so one wasn't changing out film ever 36 shots. They didn't want to miss the "moment" while changing film in one of their cameras. So their "only needed ONE exposure to get it right" wasn't always true.

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Oct 22, 2019 13:09:27   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
WDCash wrote:
Are you stating that the Sony a7rIV has this same feature?


They have sensor shift, but I do not think they have Pro Capture. Sensor shift could be be put in any digital camera. Pro Capture is really only for mirrorless. It could be put in DSLRs, but that would mean that the mirror would be flapping around until one finally pressed the shutter. That would be a lot more wear and tear on the mirror and shutter that was not designed into the original design. And the Pro Capture in a DSLR would be limited to the max frames per second of the motordrive.

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Oct 22, 2019 17:47:08   #
SalvageDiver Loc: Huntington Beach CA
 
Your hearing about the Sony A7R4. It has a 61MPx sensor, can shoot at 10 frames/sec and can buffer up to 30 raw images. It has a resolution of 640 MPX in the pixels shift mode.

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Oct 22, 2019 20:51:37   #
SalvageDiver Loc: Huntington Beach CA
 
Sorry, 240MPx

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Oct 22, 2019 22:59:59   #
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MrBob wrote:
You are prob. referring to the Pro Capture mode on the new Olympus OM-D mark2. In Pro Capture Mode which you set by the dial, the camera buffers a series of full res. 20 mp images until you fully depress shutter button. your image plus 14 previous images in jpeg/raw will be recorded. I believe there is a way to capture 60 fpm also... I don't have the feature on my M1 so I have no direct experience. Sounds pretty wild though. Oly is pretty innovative in areas like this. The M1x has some pretty innovative features also which incorporate a little AI in focusing...Hope this leads you in the right direction. Bob
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Thaz a good overview of that function.

The Lumix G-9 also does that, at 60FPS
and 18MP rez. It's actually 6K video that
runs all the time [when in that mode] but
it only records the previous 30 frames in
a continuously recording, self-emptying
short term buffer. When you press the
shutter release, it stops deleting the most
recent 30 frames [before button pushing]
and additionally will record the next 30
frames [after button pushing].

Altho no lengthy [large] video files are
recorded, the continuous video imaging
feeding into the 30 frame buffer is rather
battery hungry. IOW, if you leave it on
thru a whole sporting event, carry plenty
of extra batteries. I don't know, but it's
reasonable to suspect that really lengthy
continuous use might trigger a protective
thermal shut down in hot environments.

There are other cameras that have this
feature altho the number of "pre-release"
frames, and the burst rates, will vary. It
is just a new way to benefit from existing
video-frame-grabber methods, so AFAIK
it is not limited by patents ... so that if
it is well received, it should proliferate.

As to other cameras, some less costly
[vs G-9] have a similar ability, altho at
4K rather than 6K, so the stills are 8MP
rather than 18MP.

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