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Oct 21, 2019 14:52:40   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
When you become one with your camera, the magic begins.

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Oct 22, 2019 05:42:27   #
John Sh Loc: Toronto, Australia
 
Put it on Manual and you are in total control with a few aids to help you.

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Oct 22, 2019 06:22:54   #
alphonso49uk
 
Most camera menus overcomplicate everything.Most of mine are turned off! I happen to like post processing although no doubt I'm in the minority.

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Oct 22, 2019 06:26:08   #
Hamltnblue Loc: Springfield PA
 
The Villages wrote:
As I read through the daily digests from day-to-day, there seems to be a stream of questions regarding the camera's workings. I think it is agreed that the cameras of today are becoming (or have become) small hand held computers. To my mind, their complexity takes away from the true art of photography. Seems like we often spend more time fooling around with trying to figure out the workings of the camera then in taking the best photograph we can. Maybe I'm just a "good old days" kind of guy.

Your thoughts.
As I read through the daily digests from day-to-da... (show quote)


When you buy a new car the same thing happens. You are constantly checking out and finding the neat new features. A year or 2 later there's nothing new and you just drive the car.

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Oct 22, 2019 06:31:43   #
Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.
 
Well, I kind of let the camera do the thinking but I do miss the old days when you had to set the lens aperture according to the distance scale on your strobe light. I grew up in the days before strobes when we had blue and white flash bulbs.

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Oct 22, 2019 07:11:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
The idea is to learn most of the features of the camera, so making adjustments is second nature. Then, the technology will be working for you, rather than slowing you down.

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Oct 22, 2019 07:33:49   #
hammond
 
"These darn daguerreotypes will be the end of painting as an art."

... technology has been disrupting the way in which humans create images since the dawn of photography.

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Oct 22, 2019 07:41:11   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I don't care if you disagree. I spent 40 years working with actual real computers and I'm pretty sure I know what makes up an actual computer and I don't know of a single digital camera that will do what an actual computer can do. Like I said, the cameras contain micro processors. But there's more to actual computers that just micro processors. As for I/O devices, the I/O devices used by computers are quite different than cameras.


LOL!

Well lets see:

1- Processor, check
2- I/O, whether you like it or not a camera has both. check
3- Storage, check
4- Program, check
5- Memory, check

Awe, your right it doesn't have what is required......
40 years ago I had 10 years experience already.

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Oct 22, 2019 07:43:35   #
Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.
 
Well, I kind of let the camera do the thinking but I do miss the old days when you had to set the lens aperture according to the distance scale on your strobe light. I grew up in the days before strobes when we had blue and white flash bulbs.

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Oct 22, 2019 07:44:25   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
People do whatever they want. No matter how complex the camera, if you know the basics, you can switch it to manual or any of the semi-automatic settings that have been around for years. I read the manuals when I get a new camera but mostly use the first auto mode I was first introduced to, aperture priority.

It is obvious from many of the post here that some folks use the new technology to help them produce wonderful images. Some folks embrace the new technology because they love technology and would rather discuss it than use it to take pictures. Some of us who take pictures learn from the posts of those who talk about it.

There is something for everyone, no right or wrong.

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Oct 22, 2019 07:59:04   #
BjB1953 Loc: Rice Lake, WI
 
LWW wrote:
Agreed.

However most folks who buy a new DSLR have never learned the basics of photography and end up fishing through menus searching for the ‘PERFECT PICTURE’ setting.


AMEN!!!

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Oct 22, 2019 08:04:38   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
My Olympus has a bad rap of having too complex a menu. After taking the time to read through Darrell Young’s book on my camera, I think it’s very easy. Everything is in front of me. In the days of old, cameras weren’t that complex because the technology simply didn’t exist.

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Oct 22, 2019 08:07:47   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
The Villages wrote:
As I read through the daily digests from day-to-day, there seems to be a stream of questions regarding the camera's workings. I think it is agreed that the cameras of today are becoming (or have become) small hand held computers. To my mind, their complexity takes away from the true art of photography. Seems like we often spend more time fooling around with trying to figure out the workings of the camera then in taking the best photograph we can. Maybe I'm just a "good old days" kind of guy.

Your thoughts.
As I read through the daily digests from day-to-da... (show quote)


If you like the "GOOD OLD DAYS", then go you would love NO SEAT BELTS, No anti-lock breaks, no pollution devices, rear wheel drive, no navigation, no cell phones (only land line phones in your home), no apps on your phone, no labels telling you what is in a product, etc. etc. etc.
Thanks but no thanks.

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Oct 22, 2019 08:16:37   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
twice_shooter wrote:
I remember back in high school (mid-70s) photography class when a teacher came in and started complaining about how the recently introduced auto exposure feature of the then new cameras was going to ruin the creativity of photography. It didn’t.

Cameras today work the same as they did 40+ years ago: set the ISO (ASA back when), set the shutter speed and the aperture. You don’t need to use all the technology that modern cameras have. It’s up to you on how and what you use. Cameras can be as simple or as complicated as you want or need them to be. My $0.02.
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That all is pretty valid for me anyway.

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Oct 22, 2019 08:22:58   #
Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.
 
We’re talking about good olé days in photography, not everything else.

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