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Oct 21, 2019 12:46:02   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Yeah, but give me the sharper lens!

You can always "soften" a too-sharp image in post processing or even with filters when the shot is taken.

There are serious limits on how much you can sharpen a too-soft image from a poorer quality lens.


I agree completely on "sharp gear" - Not advocating "poor or not-sharp equipment" bodies/lenses at all, nor advocating "un-sharp" photo practices. Just pointing out a reality of "high resolution" equipment, cameras, lenses, big screen tv's, etc. Those of us who have been there already know this, those who haven't, well... I always go for sharp too, but there are instances (artsy and portraits) where "softening" can be your friend, or your customers friend...how one get's there is up to them.... and yes, in general you can only sharpen a soft focus/capture a bit, but you can soften a sharp image/focus a lot.

I fondly remember more than a few weddings and portrait sessions I did where a "De-ugly" filter was sorely needed, soft focus filters helped somewhat, but, well, you know...... just like you can "dumb-down" smart, but fixing "stupid" is more like miracle work....

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Oct 21, 2019 13:14:08   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Fredinco wrote:
My daughter (39) and I (old as dirt) have loved photography for a long time but never got past DX NIkons. Hers is D3200. Now she started her own llc. and has become busy doing baby, children, pets and some family portrait work. Has website and all. Now she wants to go deep end into full frame equipment. Thinking D750 or D850. She also loves outdoor landscape and closeup work like bugs and flowers. So what to get. Please help old dad know what to help buy and answer couple questions
-850 very tempting but worth it?
-can she use existing lenses at all till new appropriate ones can be afforded?
- what are the first two lenses she should go after to take advantage of a 750 or 850.

I know I can read posts till I die and still be confused. Are there sane hopefully simple answers to the above. I was once (35 yrs ago)a part time wedding photographer using rolliflex’s I think so I at least used to know a bit, like how to lug a ton of stuff around. But my model T knowledge does little for daughters Ferrari appetite.
My daughter (39) and I (old as dirt) have loved ph... (show quote)


I think that the D850 is probably worth it, but I have to ask, is this a business decision or a hobbyist decision, if it is a business decision and she is staying busy with her photography business then investing $10K to $15K may very well be worth it, seems like a small amount of start up money for a small business, if the business is just part-time and not really bringing much revenue then I would consider it more of a hobbyist purchase and does she want to spend that much money on a hobby. The deal is that when she buys that pro body she will be buying pro lenses to go along with it.

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Oct 21, 2019 13:27:18   #
maryo Loc: Santa fe
 
the d850 does focus stacking

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Oct 21, 2019 13:28:52   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Fredinco wrote:
My daughter (39) and I (old as dirt) have loved photography for a long time but never got past DX NIkons. Hers is D3200. Now she started her own llc. and has become busy doing baby, children, pets and some family portrait work. Has website and all. Now she wants to go deep end into full frame equipment. Thinking D750 or D850. She also loves outdoor landscape and closeup work like bugs and flowers. So what to get. Please help old dad know what to help buy and answer couple questions
-850 very tempting but worth it?
-can she use existing lenses at all till new appropriate ones can be afforded?
- what are the first two lenses she should go after to take advantage of a 750 or 850.

I know I can read posts till I die and still be confused. Are there sane hopefully simple answers to the above. I was once (35 yrs ago)a part time wedding photographer using rolliflex’s I think so I at least used to know a bit, like how to lug a ton of stuff around. But my model T knowledge does little for daughters Ferrari appetite.
My daughter (39) and I (old as dirt) have loved ph... (show quote)


Your simple answer is - mirror less is the future ! - And right now, Nikon's lenses for the Z bodies are, for the most part unequaled - a bit pricey tho - but if you can afford the price of admission - the way to go and the best investment IMO - unless she is doing sports or wildlife .....

Lenses to get ?? - The S lenses if you can afford them

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Oct 21, 2019 13:47:37   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Welcome to UHH!

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Oct 21, 2019 14:43:45   #
ychow8
 
Read all the replies. In 2019, Nikon Z6 tempting....full frame. But ain't willing to let my D500 go....D500 is so good.

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Oct 21, 2019 15:58:38   #
balancr Loc: VA
 
If you are going fulll frame and new lenses you can also change brand. Sony (Alpha A7III 24 MPX, Alpha A9 if you are crazy to spend)) have some great models and glass. Canon is also a brand you may have heard of on UHH.

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Oct 21, 2019 18:47:47   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
balancr wrote:
If you are going fulll frame and new lenses you can also change brand. Sony (Alpha A7III 24 MPX, Alpha A9 if you are crazy to spend)) have some great models and glass. Canon is also a brand you may have heard of on UHH.


The poster states they both shoot Nikon, since they are familiar with Nikon's feature set, wouldn't it be better if they stick with Nikon rather than change brands?

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Oct 21, 2019 18:55:10   #
hookedupin2005 Loc: Northwestern New Mexico
 
Fredinco wrote:
My daughter (39) and I (old as dirt) have loved photography for a long time but never got past DX NIkons. Hers is D3200. Now she started her own llc. and has become busy doing baby, children, pets and some family portrait work. Has website and all. Now she wants to go deep end into full frame equipment. Thinking D750 or D850. She also loves outdoor landscape and closeup work like bugs and flowers. So what to get. Please help old dad know what to help buy and answer couple questions
-850 very tempting but worth it?
-can she use existing lenses at all till new appropriate ones can be afforded?
- what are the first two lenses she should go after to take advantage of a 750 or 850.

I know I can read posts till I die and still be confused. Are there sane hopefully simple answers to the above. I was once (35 yrs ago)a part time wedding photographer using rolliflex’s I think so I at least used to know a bit, like how to lug a ton of stuff around. But my model T knowledge does little for daughters Ferrari appetite.
My daughter (39) and I (old as dirt) have loved ph... (show quote)


Excellent advice from CHG_Canon on the computer. As far as the camera,I think the D850 may be the best choice, with one caveat: I would look at the major retailers(B&H,Adorama, Roberts,etc.),and check their used departments...You can pick up a warranteed used D850 for around $300-$500 less than a new one,which would mean more money for lenses.

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Oct 21, 2019 19:28:49   #
MichaelMcGrath Loc: Ireland
 
The D800 is a lot cheaper than the others and is the only model that has an AA filter so doesn't produce as much moire as the latest 810 and 850. It takes fabulous shots, the others are simply faster for press and sports photographers and personally I don't need speed.

In fact I love the Canon IDS Mark 111 with the 28mm/2.8 IS lens. But most of all I much prefer my Bronica SQA and Mamiya 645 medium format film cameras loaded with B & W in the one, and colour neg in the other.

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Oct 21, 2019 19:53:42   #
Silverrails
 
Fredinco wrote:
My daughter (39) and I (old as dirt) have loved photography for a long time but never got past DX NIkons. Hers is D3200. Now she started her own llc. and has become busy doing baby, children, pets and some family portrait work. Has website and all. Now she wants to go deep end into full frame equipment. Thinking D750 or D850. She also loves outdoor landscape and closeup work like bugs and flowers. So what to get. Please help old dad know what to help buy and answer couple questions
-850 very tempting but worth it?
-can she use existing lenses at all till new appropriate ones can be afforded?
- what are the first two lenses she should go after to take advantage of a 750 or 850.

I know I can read posts till I die and still be confused. Are there sane hopefully simple answers to the above. I was once (35 yrs ago)a part time wedding photographer using rolliflex’s I think so I at least used to know a bit, like how to lug a ton of stuff around. But my model T knowledge does little for daughters Ferrari appetite.
My daughter (39) and I (old as dirt) have loved ph... (show quote)


Seems her Business is doing very well with her Nikon D3200. I myself have the Nikon D3300 and it produces very nice images.
If you upgrade to a "Full Frame" DSLR camera, there will be a "Learning period", due to those are more complicated Cameras. Check out the "Mirrorless" line of Cameras, which I know "0" knowledge or Experience with this new line of Cameras. If her business is a successful one with her D3200 and it is performing well, maybe stick with it, although maybe it is getting old and tired too. What Lens do she own and use in her business, maybe consider a Nikon 24-70 2.8 lens or the 70-200 2.8 lens, they are fast lens, and great in low light situations too. Do research and take your time, it could be a expensive investment ahead.

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Oct 21, 2019 20:11:25   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Ched49 wrote:
The poster states they both shoot Nikon, since they are familiar with Nikon's feature set, wouldn't it be better if they stick with Nikon rather than change brands?


Basically ALL camera's are the same. All have controls for shutter speed, aperture, ISO. These three form the basis of all photography.
That said I have been a Nikon guy most of my adult life. And I believe that the mirrorless camera's are the way to go, especially for this young lady who is going into professional photography. Mirrorless has many advantages over DSLR.
I also believe that Sony has the advantage in mirrorless at this time. Sony has Zeiss lenses that are auto focus for their camera's and a line of G lenses that are outstanding.
Yes, for her to stay with Nikon would be easy, but since the basic controls of a camera are universal, I believe it is time for her to switch to a camera company that is the leader in mirrorless auto focus systems.

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Oct 21, 2019 23:21:30   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
billnikon wrote:
Basically ALL camera's are the same. All have controls for shutter speed, aperture, ISO. These three form the basis of all photography.
.....Yes, for her to stay with Nikon would be easy, but since the basic controls of a camera are universal, I believe it is time for her to switch to a camera company that is the leader in mirrorless auto focus systems.


Sure, Bill, the basics are there in all cameras, but with digital, some features are buried in the menu, controls on different wheels or adjusted by touch on the LCD . I wanted to love the Olympus EM-1 I had for a while, but the menu system drove me bonkers! Also, Nikon's zoom (and focus) rings have always rotated in the opposite direction than those on a Canon. It's not a bad thing, just that they are different.

Going from one camera brand or even model to another can be confusing and frustrating. The critical button placement on the upper level Nikons is different than those on the less expensive ones. I've shot Nikon since the late '60's. My brain's wired for Nikon. My best friend shoots Canon. I never quite get used to using her Canons when we have a "play" date. To me, Sony cameras look and feel like they were designed by electrical engineers for electrical engineers, not photographers, but I've seen some of the amazing photos they can produce. I think Fuji does the best at capturing the feel of film camera. In the end, they are just tools, but some prefer a different feel.

I've seen amazing photos (and crappy too) taken with all kinds of camera models and brands.
I think getting a camera you understand and feel comfortable with goes a long way towards helping you get the best photos you are capable of.
Cheers!

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Oct 22, 2019 01:52:05   #
Dossile
 
I admit I haven’t read every post. Here’s my $0.02 anyway though. I would look at a Nikon D750, or a D850 if you can afford it. Both are great cameras and you are already familiar with the basics as a Nikon user. For mirrorless, I would consider Sony FF cameras, Nikon Z7 and Z6, as well as a Panasonic D9, a 4/3 camera. Given that you are essentially starting over, I would look hard at the different mirrorless bodies, as well as the lenses. I shoot DSLR and love my D850 and would choose it again. However, many on UHH are adamant mirrorless fans, and for a reason.

I believe you received mistaken advice on computers and large picture files. Memory is pretty cheap. You can buy two 4 TB hard drives, a primary and a back up, for a total of $220. My MacBook Pro only has an internal HD with 500 GB of SS memory and to my surprise the limited memory has been no big deal. You should have a back up anyway, so in the end you get 4TB of memory extension for only $110.

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Oct 22, 2019 11:10:49   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
billnikon wrote:
Basically ALL camera's are the same. All have controls for shutter speed, aperture, ISO. These three form the basis of all photography.
That said I have been a Nikon guy most of my adult life. And I believe that the mirrorless camera's are the way to go, especially for this young lady who is going into professional photography. Mirrorless has many advantages over DSLR.
I also believe that Sony has the advantage in mirrorless at this time. Sony has Zeiss lenses that are auto focus for their camera's and a line of G lenses that are outstanding.
Yes, for her to stay with Nikon would be easy, but since the basic controls of a camera are universal, I believe it is time for her to switch to a camera company that is the leader in mirrorless auto focus systems.
Basically ALL camera's are the same. All have cont... (show quote)


It never ends... first you say "ALL cameras are the same" then you talk about the advantages of Sony mirrorless cameras. I believe in letting the original poster make up their own mind.

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